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Thread Number: 37098
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
'Say Goodbye To Big Corded Vacuums' |
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| Post# 396343 , Reply# 1 8/6/2018 at 18:38 (2,083 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington, NC) | ||
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I'll stick with my corded KIRBY's and Numatics any day over a battery. I run a vacuum 2-3 hours daily and can't think of any cordless machine that can handle my needs! Greg | ||
| Post# 396350 , Reply# 3 8/6/2018 at 21:36 (2,082 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest) | ||
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I didnt think I heard they were ending production of the corded vacs, I think they are ending development of new corded vacs. | ||
| Post# 396351 , Reply# 4 8/6/2018 at 21:51 (2,082 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California) | ||
@ Harley.. Yes, that what I heard him say as well. As far as how all future vacuums will be cordless... It may never happen, as smaller companies won't have the resources to mass produce cordless machines and sell them at a reasonable cost.
Large companies like TTI or Midea or Dyson or Miele, etc … will have the R&D budget as well as the vendors to make it happen. The products coming will hopefully surprise us, and the joy of "free-vacuuming" will be the new standard for those owners who want to try it.
It is hard to go back once your go cord free.. in addition, it adds to the spontaneity of cleaning up small jobs, and we may find people using their vacuums more often!
Low run times and low CFM might be initial offerings, but with battery technology advancing quickly... who knows?
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| Post# 396359 , Reply# 5 8/7/2018 at 02:15 (2,082 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Texaskirbyguy
Rob - You say the battery technology isn't here yet? I disagree with that entirely.
The fact that Tacony has been able to market a lightweight upright with a runtime of 1 hour proves it. Now, granted, it does have some limitations, such as the brushroll using softer bristles to minimize drain on the battery, but those limitations will quickly diminish as battery technology improves. I also think that, for the meantime, while it would be unpractical to put enough batteries to power a full size upright & make a full size cordless upright, it would be possible to make a cordless canister vacuum with a powerhead. I used to have a BionX 250PL ebike kit with 26 volt battery, later upgraded to 48 volt, on my mountain bike. The 250 watt motor was EXTREMELY powerful, & it was possible to get about 20 km on a single charge. If it's possible for a 26 or 48 volt battery to power a ebike with a adult male rider, plus the weight of the bike itself (57 lbs), then it is VERY POSSIBLE to make it power a 10 or 11 amp motor plus a small 1.5 amp powerhead motor for 45 minutes to a hour. The batteries are still a bit on the heavy side - my BionX batteries weighed just under 7 lbs each. So while it wouldn't be practical to put such a heavy weight on a full size upright, as it would be too heavy to push & pull, it would work perfectly in a canister vacuum. The reason for this is you pull the weight behind you in a canister vacuum. While it may be a little bit bigger, bulkier & heavier at first than a corded canister vacuum, that would change & improve over time as the battery technology improves & they get smaller. Having said that, I don't agree with ever making a full powered, cordless stick vacuum to replace a canister or upright vacuum. I could totally see how a stick vacuum with the power of a full size upright being a pain in the butt to use. Where they have their place is supplementing a full size vacuum for quick pickups & jobs full size vacuums are impractical for. Rob | ||
| Post# 396368 , Reply# 7 8/7/2018 at 05:05 (2,082 days old) by Mike811 (Finland) | ||
With a modern technology Dyson could make a cordless Ball upright. Just a bigger battery and motor than in the V10.
I really don't like the idea of stick vacuum. Dust capacity is small and if they make it bigger it comes very top heavy. In the Ball upright weight will be on the floor and not in your hand. So Ball upright with a big battery/motor would work better in my opinion. V10 is a terrible idea to replace the normal full size upright. | ||
| Post# 396372 , Reply# 9 8/7/2018 at 08:37 (2,082 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN) | ||
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Dyson said future vacs will be cordless--- ---Alex Lewyt said in the 50s that future vacs would be atomic powered,possibly to get more publicity that he was well known for.So just how well do these future predictions turn out?? | ||
| Post# 396424 , Reply# 14 8/8/2018 at 04:43 (2,081 days old) by jake1234 (greasby) | ||
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Cordless Vacuums I dont think cordless will ever fully take over. There are just too many people that want a corded vacuum as they are more reliable and they want a full sized upright. As someone else said on here, not to mention the unlimited running time. | ||
| Post# 396506 , Reply# 16 8/9/2018 at 13:25 (2,080 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB) | ||
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| Post# 396680 , Reply# 18 8/12/2018 at 21:29 (2,076 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211) | ||
I have a better idea....
How about Dyson says "goodbye" to making vacuums altogether? Dyson may as well because a cordless vacuum has planned obsolescence built in when the battery ultimately won't take a charge anymore, and people know that. I really think James Dyson doesn't care anymore what people think of his vacuums. People will buy it simply because it's a Dyson.
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| Post# 396732 , Reply# 19 8/13/2018 at 22:58 (2,075 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
I wouldn't even take a Dyson for free
So last Friday, a friend of mine calls me up because she's just bought a love seat at a thrift shop for $10 and needs me to come pick it up in the van and take it to her apartment. When I pulled up at the back door of the store, there's a Dyson vacuum cleaner sitting there with a sticker on it that says "Free--Needs a new plug". Sure enough, the plug is missing a prong. My friend says 'Hey, there's another vacuum for you," but I wouldn't bite and neither would she when I offered to fix it up for her and relieve her of my Kirby Heritage 1D, which she says is too heavy for her. And by the time we got the sofa loaded up, she'd decided she didn't want it after all, so now I'm stuck with it in the back of the an until I can get it somewhere to donate it.
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| Post# 397127 , Reply# 20 8/22/2018 at 20:41 (2,066 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
James Dyson Lies like a rug  | ||
| Post# 397151 , Reply# 21 8/23/2018 at 12:37 (2,066 days old) by bryan1980 (Texas) | ||
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Just speaking for myself I've never had a situation where I've needed a vacuum and an outlet wasn't nearby, and I've never looked at having to plug a vacuum in as a big hassle. | ||
| Post# 397155 , Reply# 22 8/23/2018 at 13:51 (2,066 days old) by Royalfan (Chicago) | ||
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Post# 397228 , Reply# 23 8/25/2018 at 04:37 (2,064 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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HMMM-you still need an OUTLET to charge the cordless vacuum!!So some time in its lifetime-it has a cord for charging. | ||
| Post# 398760 , Reply# 28 9/25/2018 at 16:55 (2,033 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I've been using the cordless Riccar SupraLite 8 pound upright at work now for 3 years. I've had the cordless power nozzle (the Volt) for my Vacuflo central vac for over 2 years now. I swapped out the soft brush roller of the Volt for a steel brush roller with stiff brushes (from the Riccar corded 8 pound deluxe upright) and found my run time to be about 50 minutes on a full charge.
While I like some Dyson vacuums very much (and some I don't), personally I think cordless is the way of the future for all vacuum manufacturers. | ||
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Post# 398776 , Reply# 29 9/26/2018 at 00:32 (2,032 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Both my Volt and the Cordless Superlite vacuums at my place get frequent use too!Really like them!So handy and the Volt works with any canister vacuum hose hose fits the Volts wand! | ||
| Post# 398792 , Reply# 30 9/26/2018 at 10:41 (2,032 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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The ultimate in planned obsolescence...
Have you ever noticed how cordless devices increasingly have sealed battery compartments with non-replaceable battery packs? Some even come with instructions for how to destroy the device to remove the depleted battery pack for recycling at the end of the device's "useful life". So if you buy into this line of horseshit, the whole device is only intended to last only as long as the battery pack when the rest of the device could last considerably longer--and keep more plastic out of our landfills--if it were designed with a replaceable battery pack. Nonsense!
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