Thread Number: 36911
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Should Eureka Leave The Market Whilst Sanitaire Remains |
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Post# 394643   7/10/2018 at 18:57 (2,088 days old) by ihaveautism1996 (North Carolina)   |   | |
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Because Eureka's selection nowadays is abysmal, do you guys agree that they should just withdraw from the market? I know Sanitaire can stay. |
Post# 394647 , Reply# 1   7/10/2018 at 21:13 (2,088 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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Post# 394658 , Reply# 2   7/11/2018 at 00:02 (2,088 days old) by Evilvacuumman (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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I'm think that the sanitaire quality is going downhill. I started working at a shop and every sanitaire with the plastic motor needs a new motor. I see some that are only 1-2 years old and need a new motor. I haven't seen a metal top motor in yet so I think that means that those last longer. I do agree that they are better then the bagless eureka stuff they are selling but it's not worth getting a commercial vacuum that will need a new motor in a year or 2.
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Post# 394676 , Reply# 3   7/11/2018 at 09:16 (2,087 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)   |   | |
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I think Sanitaire makes one of the best backpack vacuums available, I think the model number is SC535A, very quiet and powerful. Mike |
Post# 394687 , Reply# 5   7/11/2018 at 13:15 (2,087 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Vacuums with the Eureka name are machines made by the manufacturer of Black and Decker vacuums - Midea.
While I have not seen a Floor Rover in person, the Eureka branded machines at Wal-Mart that I have seen are just the same single cyclone dirt separation as the B & D models. Sanitaire is still owned by AB Electrolux, even though they are made in China. I was very disappointed in the current quality of the Sanitaire branded vacuums, the seals where the bag meets the cleaner leak a lot of dirt. |
Post# 394697 , Reply# 6   7/11/2018 at 17:10 (2,087 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 394744 , Reply# 7   7/12/2018 at 07:49 (2,086 days old) by ihaveautism1996 (North Carolina)   |   | |
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Eureka has no shampooers anymore. And I thought Sanitaire was better. |
Post# 394790 , Reply# 8   7/13/2018 at 00:16 (2,086 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I feel like Eureka left the market a long time ago. Vacuum shops that repair vintage vacuums are harder to find today. We had a terrific vacuum cleaner shop in Dayton Ohio that had many older vacuum parts and if they didn't have a new one, they had many old cleaners in their basement that they would take parts off to repair your old one. The father retired and the son took over. End of story. Now they only sell new vacuums period and only repair what they sell......
PR-21 Bud |
Post# 394801 , Reply# 9   7/13/2018 at 09:31 (2,085 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 394861 , Reply# 11   7/13/2018 at 21:21 (2,085 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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I was never really that impressed with most of Eureka's models in the last 10 years or so. Even a lot of their 90s models seemed a bit disappointing to me at the time. They were all plastic-y and very loud.
They did still have some good canisters in the 90s but most of their recent canisters have had weird designs and tiny attachments and bags. The Smart Vac upright was decent but that was discontinued as well as the 1934B. It was pretty cool they still offered the 1934B as an F&G model in a household version, because Hoover hadn't offered a household Convertible version since the early 90s. They did have some fun machines like the stick vacs and Super Lite, which was pretty cool for its size but suffered from being cheaply made and extremely loud. |
Post# 394862 , Reply# 12   7/13/2018 at 21:22 (2,085 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)   |   | |
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What should be done is that the patents on the designs of old Eureka models should get expired. This would allow third-party companies to replicate the designs of such models and the replacement parts. A person should have the right to get a discontinued product for himself/herself if a company wants to have nothing more to do with it.
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Post# 395243 , Reply# 13   7/18/2018 at 22:52 (2,080 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 395285 , Reply# 14   7/19/2018 at 15:01 (2,079 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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The quality of the plastic the new Sanitaire motors are made of is abysmal... It erodes from sand abrasion, and in many cases I've seen, you can lose the little ledge the motor gasket fits around! By the 6th of these new motors I've seen I was thoroughly disgusted! In all practical senses, if we can detach our love of old vacuums, and the attraction the old style Sanitaires naturally have with us, it really isn't a machine set to thrive in the modern age. Please stay calm and let me explain:
While us collectors love interacting with the vacuum, the average person doesn't really wish to mess with belt changes or cloth bags/F&G bags. The ST bag helped. Also the fragility of the fans (the clear plastic and flat fins leaves them weaker than a black plastic Hoover fan with curved blades) doesn't help. I've used 7amp Eurekas at home enough to know how fast they use up belts... But try and look at this from the point of view of someone who wants to get their vacuuming done with as little futzing with the machine as possible, I know this is hard to see from the mind of someone who lives for spending their free time using and maintaining vacuums, but please try! Something like a Windsor or the similar clean air designs Eureka and Hoover are making these days are far more desirable in the eyes of the neuro-typical vacuum user, the bags take almost no effort to change, there are filters that clean the air before it goes into the motor which makes it last longer, the belts never need futzed with, the brush roll pops out at the push of a button to replace, the cord comes off for replacement with no tools. It shuts itself off if it gets clogged or the brush roll is jammed, protecting itself from damage by a careless user. They're quieter, and they filter better. All of these things do have appeal, and it is the way the market is moving, I feel. |
Post# 395289 , Reply# 15   7/19/2018 at 16:21 (2,079 days old) by Evilvacuumman (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Performance reviews made a video on explaining why sebo/Windsor system is much better than a direct air vacuum. I think it's time that direct air vacuums leaves the market and the company start focusing and clean air vacuums. There is a clean air vacuum that can pull about 100 cfm that's on vacuumtest channel that also goes by Mike on here. It was a vorwork vacuum.
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Post# 395295 , Reply# 16   7/19/2018 at 17:39 (2,079 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )   |   | |
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Post# 395305 , Reply# 17   7/19/2018 at 20:44 (2,079 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 395425 , Reply# 18   7/21/2018 at 19:09 (2,077 days old) by completenutt (West Hollywood, California)   |   | |
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I remember when my Mom and Dad split up, of course my Dad needed supplies.. including a new vacuum. So, as a fledgling vac enthusiast, we went shopping and I pushed him to get, at that time, a moderately prices Eureka ESP upright (I found an image of it on Vacuumland, thanks to Post 184171). It was an inflatable bag upright, with a classic top mount motor on the base, and the base top, and bag, and handle grip were all a rich maroon color. Just gorgeous! This was around the late 70s.
It was the first vacuum that I ever used that had a two speed motor. I loved using that thing around his apartment on his shag carpet (remember late 1970s!). I must have been 13 at the time. It was a modern-ish take on a classic format, but seemed better somehow (I'm a sucker for ESP!), and left an impression on me of quality craftsmanship.
Flash forward to this conversation..
I've read some reviews on the new Floor Rover that give it decent marks. They make one canister, bagged, I think, that looks well put together. Remember, we are talking about plasticrap, as I've seen it referred to these days. But I think there are definite qualitative differentiations within that genre.
I came across their new cordless stick vac called the PowerPlush, which I attached a good YouTube review below (btw, Isaiah's seriously adorable, omg!).
The thing I find interesting, that leads me to believe that the Eureka execs are looking to deliver better than average products, is that this is one of the only vacs of this type (Dyson V8, etc) that has a replaceable post motor filter (seen at 0.49 on the video). It also has a removable battery, and a removable dirt cup for options on emptying method.
I think that's quite thoughtful of a company to go a bit beyond the standard features expected and add useful things like extra filtration.
So... that viewpoint along with really liking the re-introduction of the Eureka Williams electric E symbol leads me to conclude that they may try to capitalize on and improve brand recognition with a combination of nostalgia and current product expectations that may be best in class (Hoover, Shark, etc.).
I won't buy any stock yet. But who knows?
Bill CLICK HERE TO GO TO completenutt's LINK
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Post# 395435 , Reply# 19   7/21/2018 at 22:25 (2,077 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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