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Post# 390449   4/13/2018 at 20:45 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Hi guys, well once again I got another vacuum for my collection and this of course is a vacuum collectors favorite! A Hoover Deluxe Convertible U4009. Got this from eBay for $75 + free shipping, it used to cost $95 but somehow it was $20 off, sweet deal! It needs a little clean up but it sounds pretty good, nothing worn out. I hope yíall enjoy the pics of my member of my collection!

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Post# 390450 , Reply# 1   4/13/2018 at 20:46 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Love the shape of the hood!

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Post# 390451 , Reply# 2   4/13/2018 at 20:47 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Nice retro bag design!

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Post# 390453 , Reply# 3   4/13/2018 at 20:52 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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So far thereís only 2 problems, one the handle grip comes off when pushing and pulling the vacuum so if anybody had this problem before what should I use to make it stay in place? And lastly, itís kinda hard to explain the height adjustment doesnít want to stay in place when it moves around a bit so hopefully thereís a way to fix that.

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Post# 390454 , Reply# 4   4/13/2018 at 20:53 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Bottom is in good shape too!

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Post# 390455 , Reply# 5   4/13/2018 at 20:57 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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It also features the classic old style tool converter slide in design, I would love to have the old style hose attachment that stretches, not the tufflex one. The serial number is 0148666, maybe Ď73 or to Ď75?

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Post# 390456 , Reply# 6   4/13/2018 at 20:58 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Brushroll and belt are in very good shape too!

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Post# 390457 , Reply# 7   4/13/2018 at 21:00 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Post# 390460 , Reply# 8   4/13/2018 at 21:16 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Forgot to mention, I was originally going to make this another vacuum delivery surprise but I just couldnít wait to open my package.😁

Post# 390462 , Reply# 9   4/13/2018 at 21:43 by MadMan (Chicago, IL, USA)        

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Noice.

Idk what the common consensus is around here for the handle. But my recommendation would be to smear some silicone around the metal tube, and some inside the rubber grip, slip it on, clean it up, let it dry overnight. It should hold up to use, without really being 'permanent' because you should be able to pry it loose if you ever needed to. It will be messy though, have a lot of paper towels on hand. Alternatively, you can usually leave all the extra silicone there without touching it at all, and when it's dry, it usually peels away no problem.


Post# 390467 , Reply# 10   4/14/2018 at 01:20 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I'm always up for ideas on how to reattach insulated handles to tools and appliances.  I've tried about everything....sometimes they'll last as long as the original, but mostly I get disappointed. It would be nice to have a concoction that would let you put the grip on fully and then set permanently sometime later. I'm sure there's stuff they've used in the trades. Who knows....maybe the EPA forced the best stuff off the market........

 

Kevin


Post# 390473 , Reply# 11   4/14/2018 at 08:47 by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        

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This may have been discussed in an earlier post, but did Hoover have a technical name for that fancy scroll print they put on the bag? My Dial-A-Matic U6039-030 has the same design. On the Concept One U3101, it was smaller and had an "H" in the middle.

Post# 390477 , Reply# 12   4/14/2018 at 10:43 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Gabriel!

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Great machine.... a nice addition to your collection.
If people ever needed to/wanted to REMOVE that handle grip, they'd soak it in hot water, loosened the glue, and off came the grip. IF you don't want/need to ever have to remove it, you can apply some glue to the inside of the grip, slide it onto the handle, and let it dry. I did that to one of my Dial A Matics. Like new today!
As far as the height adjustment: perhaps the curve in the lever is worn. It sometimes happens to the handle release pedal, too. You may: replace it, OR try getting a little round file and file the concave curve a little deeper, so it will 'grab' the wheel.
That'll clean up very nicely. Good luck on the tools. You MUSTY have them. Although "ultraflex" was great, my favorite is still "Tufflex".
Happy Hoovering.
John


Post# 390491 , Reply# 13   4/14/2018 at 18:52 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Gottahaveahoover, should I use Elmerís glue or gorilla glue?

Post# 390492 , Reply# 14   4/14/2018 at 19:25 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I tried Gorrila glue on a tool handle.....lasted a couple of yrs then came off like nothing was ever on there.

 

Kevin


Post# 390493 , Reply# 15   4/14/2018 at 19:47 by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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Use Super Glue. Elmers is only good for a school project.

Post# 390496 , Reply# 16   4/14/2018 at 20:51 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Thank you Vacuumlad1650

Post# 390498 , Reply# 17   4/14/2018 at 21:34 by Louvac (A)        
Do not use

suggestions mentioned!

Use a product called Pliobond. It's what is used to glue new hosing material into machine ends. You will not need a lot. A thin coating and you're good to go. Any hairlike filament/strands are easily removed once dried. It also allows you to get it in the right position. Let it dry overnight and you're golden.

Pliobond is really a type of contact cement. And it provides a solid adhesion.





Post# 390501 , Reply# 18   4/14/2018 at 22:12 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
um, excuse me.

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Superglue works just fine. I'm not familiar with this "pliobond". It may work well too.
You'll not find Elmer's helpful. As I mentioned earlier, superglue did the trick on my stellar Dial A Matic.
Several people can give equally useful advice in this forum,one of the very reasons for said forum.
For most of us, Crazy glue, Super glue, etc are readily available. Where does one find this wonder adhesive called "Pliobond"?
Again, best of luck with your fabulous new Hoover Convertible "Deluxe".
Upon consulting with the best expert in all things HOOVER, AND upon closer inspection of your photo, it appears that the spring is not connected to the axle, resulting in a floppy axle. And, who needs a floppy axle? No one. To remedy this, simply reconnect the spring to the axle and your height adjustment problems are a thing of the past.
Now, we must be on the lookout for your "tools".


Post# 390507 , Reply# 19   4/15/2018 at 01:08 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Gottahaveahoover, do u know what month and year my Deluxe Convertible was made in? Thank u

Post# 390508 , Reply# 20   4/15/2018 at 01:22 by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
not at the moment. But, I can narrow a lot

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of it down later. I spoke w/ the expert on this about an hour ago. He did mention that yours is about 26,000 into production.

Post# 390510 , Reply# 21   4/15/2018 at 02:45 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Gottahaveahoover, 26,000 in production, Iím guessing Ď75?

Post# 390529 , Reply# 22   4/15/2018 at 16:48 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I have Pliobond and have used it outdoors for a number of projects. I glued some adapter plates to existing speakers for a auto install....metal to metal. They categorically failed in that application in about a yr.

 

It might be just the ticket though for plastic/rubber insulation on handles. It does just OK bonding with many materials. I certainly don't rate it high as a wonder adhesive.....depends on the scenario. In fact many of the things they promote that it glues 'great' are better served with other adhesives.

 

Kevin


Post# 390539 , Reply# 23   4/15/2018 at 19:40 by huskyvacs (Northern Indiana)        

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Gorilla Glue needs to have the two parts where the glue will be applied to be moistened before gluing, and held in place overnight. Obviously, like any glue, you cannot glue two parts together that will undergo stress, and parts that are not porous.

I used it to re-glue a clay flowerpot back together that shattered into about 60 pieces and then used a hobby knife to scrape off the foam "overspray" and rubbed a scrap piece of clay into the glue marks and although it's obvious it's been reglued, it holds together nicely and has had about 60 lbs of dirt in it for over a year and not had any issues.

I don't see any need that would arise where you would have to get into the inside of the handle so I'd just glue the rubber on there. Look for a glue that can bond to nonporus surfaces like polished metal, and also that will not eat away rubber. I know your off the shelf superglue can eat through rubber due to the chemical composition of it.

I am not sure if it will work with this, but with some types of rubber you can just heat it up in a bowl of water in the microwave for a few seconds and it will shrink a bit, which you can slide it back onto the handle no glue needed. It would be worth looking into if nothing else works.


Post# 390543 , Reply# 24   4/15/2018 at 21:15 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I used Gorilla glue on a tool handle...break over bar. Lasted about a yr of use and came off like it had never been glued and surprisingly almost no residue (where did it go?). Plastic/rubber on metal.

 

Kevin

 

 


Post# 390546 , Reply# 25   4/16/2018 at 02:56 by huskyvacs (Northern Indiana)        

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I had to google what a "break over bar" was, and I will say that a year of use is a great lifetime for gluing something like that! Glue is never permanent, especially on tools, as they go through a lot of flexing and shifting in their use that it will break the glue bond, it's only meant for temporary fix until you can replace it. A socket adapter takes a lot of torque and twisting, no glue would hold up to that, it's an instance where you'd just have to replace it rather than keep re-gluing it all the time. Those things are really cheap, I think the bottle of glue costs more than a new tool, lol

Post# 390549 , Reply# 26   4/16/2018 at 08:46 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Long break over bars for 1/2" sockets are $40+ new......good ones. Look on eBay for Snap On, Craftsman, Williams, SK etc for used ones.  Mine is an SK...most don't have insulated handles, but I sort of like the design of having an insulated handle. And it's unlikely you'll ever have the plastic/rubber handle come off unless the tool was made in China or the handle was bonded improperly originally. It's not a common scenario as you surmised.

 

And I don't use the tool everyday....actually infrequent use, but it does stay in outside temps in storage. When I do use it, it's used hard as designed for its leverage, so when you reach for it, you need more applied torque than from a short rachet handle.

 

I have very expensive tools I work with on a regular basis that have the insulation come off the handles. I see the same tools on eBay with their insulation intact. So either the sellers are lying or this is not as common as one might think. 

 

 

I'm just looking for a durable adhesive that lasts to hard work and sharing my findings on what hasn't worked for me. You can't undo my experiences of 50+ yrs with the wave of a wand or a Google 'search'.

 

Kevin


Post# 390552 , Reply# 27   4/16/2018 at 09:56 by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Very nice!!
These came out somewhere between 73-75 ish
26,000 off the line means it's fairly early production I would say but I am NOT an expert. If you look up in the forum search and type in maybe convertible list you will pull up a post with a list of all the metal Convertibles and their info
That white design on the bag is called a Filigree pattern.


Post# 390562 , Reply# 28   4/16/2018 at 15:01 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Fairly early production? Wow I guess I found a piece of great treasure!!!

Post# 390603 , Reply# 29   4/17/2018 at 10:45 by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Yes early when you consider they might have made 100,000 units.

Post# 390766 , Reply# 30   4/20/2018 at 09:10 by Gj3476 (Dallas,TX)        

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Yesterday I washed the hood and vinyl bag in the bathtub with dawn soap and my moms homemade cleaning spray, and shined up the hood with motherís polish cream and it looks not bad. And I used super glue for the handle grip, and it also needed a new belt. I still havenít figured out the problem with the height adjustment.

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Post# 390768 , Reply# 31   4/20/2018 at 09:35 by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Looks very nice!!! This is one that I still need to find a decent example of for my collection. I have one but she is rough and has replacement bag.

Post# 390790 , Reply# 32   4/20/2018 at 17:21 by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Filigree?

I have that model as well, nice machine, and you did a good job cleaning it up! I think it was the collector I received it from that told me the design on the bag was called fleur-de-lis. French I suppose..lol. Pronounced fler-de-lee. Not nit picking here, just passing some info along..lol.




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