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Post# 389664   4/2/2018 at 21:11 (2,205 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        

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Hey
I have a 1982 model 880 upright. I have had it a few weeks and i love it.
I was lookinv at picture of the Day and its 1951 royal vacuum i noticed the upright had attachments. I was wondering if the 880 had a hose and attachments.
Les


Post# 389680 , Reply# 1   4/3/2018 at 00:19 (2,205 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Lesinutah

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Les,

Yes, but they were optional. At the time of the original sale, if you wanted these with your 880 you actually had to include this in the original order: 303 Deluxe Attachment Kit.

I know, my 1985 Royal 880 only came with the two extension wands.

~Ben


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Post# 389681 , Reply# 2   4/3/2018 at 00:30 (2,205 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Ben

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Do you know where to purchase these?
Thanks les


Post# 389709 , Reply# 3   4/3/2018 at 11:00 (2,205 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Lesinutah

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Les,

eBay is one place to turn to.

~Ben


Post# 389715 , Reply# 4   4/3/2018 at 11:34 (2,205 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Les,

 

I don't think Royal sells the attachment kit any more.

I have seen them show up on ebay from time to time so keep an eye out for them.

 

~Stan

 


Post# 389743 , Reply# 5   4/3/2018 at 18:54 (2,204 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Hey

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But the 303 attachment kit is what im looking for?

Post# 389748 , Reply# 6   4/3/2018 at 19:45 (2,204 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Les,

Yes, as it's of the same vintage.

~Ben


Post# 389761 , Reply# 7   4/3/2018 at 21:10 (2,204 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Ben

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Thanks.
I even caught a video of your 880 stark. It was short but nice.
Today i tore 880 down cleaned no polish just cleaned head motor brush. I put it back together but I missed 2 gaskets. I will put them in and re attach wires and bring back to life. I might do a YouTube video of vacuum. It runs great before tear down hopefully just as good again.
Les


Post# 389801 , Reply# 8   4/4/2018 at 11:18 (2,204 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Les,

Thank you for watching my video!

Here is Hank's Royal 880 teardown video, again:




~Ben


Post# 389819 , Reply# 9   4/4/2018 at 16:40 (2,204 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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I was putting back together i have 2 requests.
Wiring diagram.
Request 2 take pic of back wheels. I think a big spring goes on it but not sure how.
Thanks les


Post# 389827 , Reply# 10   4/4/2018 at 19:09 (2,203 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
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Les,

I've just subscribed to your YouTube!

~Ben


Post# 389829 , Reply# 11   4/4/2018 at 19:33 (2,203 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Ben

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Thanks
Video makes you dizzy. Ill use tripod next time.


Post# 389836 , Reply# 12   4/4/2018 at 21:11 (2,203 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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I went back looked at ebay pics. Wouldn't you know it had pics i needed. I had almost had it right just repositioned wheels onto spring.
The big spring went on the handle base. I just need to fix wires.
There is 2 power wires from Armiture. Two wires from headlight. Two wires from power supply. Im know there were grouped in 2 wire nuts. So 6 wires 2 wire nuts. I think I can figure it out.

Power cord is positive and neutral.
Headlight is power and neutral.
Armiture is 2 power wires i believe.
Les
Armiture
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Post# 389844 , Reply# 13   4/4/2018 at 22:42 (2,203 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Lesinutah

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Les,

And the power switch has two black (live) wires, one to be connected with the same black wire to the short cord going from the inside of the handle assembly to the motor unit, and the other one with the black wire to the longer main cord that emerges from outside of the handle.

Here's the Royal 886 parts diagram to help you; the 886 is nearly similar to your 880 but uses a 6 amp motor instead of the 4.5 amp one.

~Ben


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Post# 389918 , Reply# 14   4/5/2018 at 23:41 (2,202 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Ben

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Thanks for diagram.
I got it to turn on but motor sounds noisy. I think wiring is off bottom of Armiture is too tight or carbon brushes are pressing against Armiture.
Ben bottom of motor housing is lukeva oil ring held in by 3 screws. It has the spout thing that hasred cap. What is this for. Isbit a bearing you grease or oil.
Thanks again diagram helps alot.
Les


Post# 389921 , Reply# 15   4/6/2018 at 01:27 (2,202 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
Lesinutah

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Les,

That red oil cap is for oiling the rear bearing... but it should only be done as needed. Only SAE 30W motor oil should be used.

~Ben


Post# 390076 , Reply# 16   4/7/2018 at 17:57 (2,200 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Ben

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Thanks for the diagrams and explanation it helped quite a bit.
2 questions.
Is Armiture on d80 and royal 880 the same but royal is newer with different impeller blades?
It looks real similar imo.
My 1030z and my 880 its like i over tightened fan. I put on fans tight but not super tight. Tight enough it spins Armiture but not too loose' that you could loosen with hand.
I was wondering what could cause this? the bearings on bottom of Armiture put in too tight or if i put belt on backwards i don't know. I don't want to tear apart trying to fix screw something else up since I tend to do this.
Thanks
Les


Post# 390082 , Reply# 17   4/7/2018 at 18:30 (2,200 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
@Ben

hey.....about that handle stem lock on the 880....how is it supposed to work exactly? I have to push it down with my toe to lock and then raise up with my toe to release.....?

 

I'm thinking that's not its design intention...that maybe it locks itself as you push the handle stem 90 degree upright....?

 

Kevin

 

 


Post# 390084 , Reply# 18   4/7/2018 at 18:41 (2,200 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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Do rea1shep do you have spring underneath latch by base of handle.
When i took mine apart noticed i didnt have spring attached. This fixed my issue with handlr


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Post# 390089 , Reply# 19   4/7/2018 at 20:37 (2,200 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

There are actually two springs; a main one that seem to keep the handle from crashing to the floor and a 'U' shaped spring on the lever itself. Nothing looks like it's working as it should. Something is either off-track or broken......although I don't see anything broken.

 

I can look at the other 880 and see how that works. I've blown up your pic, but too fuzzy to be useful up close.

 

Kevin


Post# 390103 , Reply# 20   4/7/2018 at 23:40 (2,200 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Heey

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Here is ebay listing. Hope it helps.
Les


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Lesinutah's LINK on eBay


Post# 390124 , Reply# 21   4/8/2018 at 08:33 (2,200 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

It looks like my main spring is in the right position. Don't worry about it, I'll sort it out from the other one or sit down and figure it all out intuitively.

 

Kevin


Post# 390127 , Reply# 22   4/8/2018 at 09:09 (2,200 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
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Hey
The bracket handle attaches too at base next to the spring. There is like a plate that has 3 holes. The middle hole is where spring attaches with a screw with nut on left side. The handle release on front of vacuum handle near the bottom catches on the plate with 3 holes. It sits on top of plate i believe 3 notches it goes in the middle notch.
The spring on bottom of the handle with the screw and the washer previously mentioned the screw when attaching screw with washer be in correct position and the screw catches spring and spring(if looking at spring behind vacuum and handle comes towards you.) will catch the bottom part of handle and the spring needs to be bent towards you between 20-45 degrees. On the bottom of the handle you will notice a notch on right side where spring is suppose to catch. You know handle is in correct position when its 90 degrees or straight up on vacuum. You have to tinker with sprinv to go through and catch handle. I hope it makes sense to you.
On bottom backside of vacuum on back wheels is the other screw keeps wheels in position for adjust o right handle.
If you type in 880 on ebay there is maybe 4 machines sll different views that can help.
The link ben provided the teardown might also help..
Les


Post# 390136 , Reply# 23   4/8/2018 at 11:53 (2,200 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Yeah, let me look at the link again for the 880 teardown provided by Ben. I just watched that vid to see how the motor came out....wasn't paying attention to the handle at that point....hadn't started using the vac. Like I said, I have another in a box....hopefully the handle catch lever works on that one.

 

Just watched the vid again.....although there's a great shot of the spring mech innards, it's fleetings because he turns everything right after. I can't seem to freeze that shot. That's OK, I'll look at the other one and see if it works correctly.

 

I'm in the middle of some vintage electronics at present so this can wait....

 

Kevin



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