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Thread Number: 36018
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
New Vacuum needed for Elderly Relative |
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| Post# 386344 , Reply# 1 2/18/2018 at 16:54 (2,252 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah) | ||
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| Post# 386354 , Reply# 3 2/18/2018 at 20:46 (2,251 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
You can’t beat a Miele C3 Alize canister vacuum for great performance and ease of use. It’s quiet, powerful, and lightweight. The AirTeq carpet nozzle is great on low pile carpet. And the SpotLight handle is brilliant for illuminating dark corners and under furniture. Maintenance is a breeze as Miele’s high filtration dust bags pack a lot into them before changing is needed. The Comfort cord reel retracts the entire cord without having to hold down the button with your foot. The Alize also comes with a longer cord (24 feet) and a longer telescopic wand.
You can enhance the Alize by buying a turbo nozzle for the rugs, and/or a Parquet Twister brush for bare floors. Really a great, easy to use, all around classic vacuum that would be great for a senior. Especially because it is very, very quiet. | ||
| Post# 386360 , Reply# 6 2/18/2018 at 22:17 (2,251 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Aha. I see....okay, so no canisters.
But I would highly recommend staying away from bagless vacs for use by a senior: just too messy and complicated to maintain. I can’t see a 90-year old sticking his hands into a bin to get out clumps of dirt and hair. Why not try Sears? Their Kenmore Pet Friendly uprights are excellent bagged vacs - top rated by Consumer Reports - and well within your price range. If not, you might look at the inexpensive Hoover T-Series bagged uprights in red or blue: also highly rated by Consumer Reports with one being tagged a Best Buy at $180. They both have a large push pedal to shut off the brush roll to clean bare floors. | ||
| Post# 386361 , Reply# 7 2/18/2018 at 22:39 (2,251 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Steven
First of all, I wouldn't be getting a Dyson Ball MultiFloor quite so quickly there. Your grandfather is 90 years old, who knows how much longer he will live. Plus, you said yourself he got 22 years out of a Eureka Bravo, a cheaply built vacuum. So, there's really no reason to spend tons of money here. What your grandfather REALLY needs is something that is light, easy to use with tools, easy to maintain, & has a brushroll shutoff to do bare floors. First vacuum I would suggest would be the Hoover Powerdrive Pet. Under $200, nice large bin for less emptying, easy to use tools, & it weighs only 16 lbs. Both your grandfather & the housekeeper should be able to handle this easily. The only thing I would suggest is to keep an eye on the pre-motor filter & check it after each vacuuming session & wash as needed. If your grandfather is open to a powerhead canister, I would try & find a Panasonic MC-CG902. This is the same classic design as the Kenmore Progressive canisters in the mid-2000's. Nice set of tools, long hose, all controls on the hose handle, easy to use quick release powerhead connection so the wand can be used for bare floors. Very good powerhead with headlight , 4 height adjustments, permanent poly v belt, & a very effective brushroll that works well on many different carpet types. Bags & replacement HEPA filters can be found for good prices in bulk, so it won't be costly to maintain. The only bad points about it are the HEPA filtration isn't a sealed system, I would definitely use only the HEPA Cloth bags in it, & to be careful & keep an eye on the hose, wand & powerhead electrical connections. Most times this vacuum can be found for around $300-$350 online. The Panasonic MC-CG917 is the upgrade, which includes a telescopic wand over the 2 piece wand set, & the Optiflow bag caddy, for around $400-$450. I would just stick with the MC-CG902, it's all your grandfather really needs. And your grandfather & a housekeeper should be fairly comfortable with a canister, & much lighter than using any upright. Also, probably the best option for all the bare floors in the house. Rob Hoover: www.hoover.com/powerdrive... Panasonic MC-CG902: evacuumstore.com/p-2544-panasoni... | ||
| Post# 386388 , Reply# 11 2/19/2018 at 13:09 (2,251 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA) | ||
To answer some Miele Questions...
One is going to wade in the fray here. Our company retails Miele, along with Tacony, TTI and Sebo products, and Dyson AND Shark re-manufactured. I really find that maybe hearing something about the Miele from an expert of 24 years now, who sells these things daily, and has real, life experience with them may help you.
Aside the fact that it has been made clear that the Dyson is winning the race here I think if I have caught you in time, I may have a few things for you to really ponder. So, as I've read the written statement was: "I'm wary of the Miele's durability. Performance is great , but the S7/U1 platform is known to have serious issues with their hoses collapsing from not being able to withstand the suction and some other plastic components tending to break (rear wheels and bag collar mounts are reported to be weak spots). I'm sorry but a $449+ vacuum with those problems is not worth the money". Some answers- 1. "I'm wary of the Miele's durability. My short and sincere answer is: Don't be. The long answer is: Mieles warranty is class leading, even on the entry level product, the Twist/Maverick. To that end, Miele has eliminated MOST if not ALL of the issues you have described during the very early stages pf production, and made it very clear to have any previous part replaced under warranty IF the problem arises, and again isn't a Blatant sign of customer misuse..or mishandling... (Caveat- All companies have addendum to warranties or guarantees that are designed for customer buffoonery. sorry, but people are hard on vacuums, and put them away wet. I agree some issues were there on early Miele S7's, but they have been corrected...to more anon..) All dealers have been instructed, IF you dealer finds clear factory fault with any of the parts, and a properly trained dealer CAN tell if it was just blatant misuse, or a defect from the factory... they can be sure to get the company to honor any issues up to a point. I've yet to have a warranty I have submitted denied. Try that with anyone else warranty. Not so much. And that means ALL of the aforementioned brands. Including James Dysons whirly can... 2. Performance is great. Short answer: Yes, yes it is. Far safer for your hard floors, than anything other upright made, other than the Henry IMHO, and the Henry, which is a canister, was clearly stated as a no no. Long answer: Please take a gander at the bottom of the nozzle of your Dyson uprights. They scratch floors..., most uprights do. It's scratching the heck out of your floors. Miele doesn't DO that unless you are picking up rocks, or copious amounts of kitty litter. And even then, it's not nearly as bad as most brands. Sadly, An upright vacuum just isn't the BEST solution to you needs. A canister is. But it's been made clear that's not an option. Out of them all, a Miele will do hard floors best and safest. And in terms of agitation you cant beat that either. Dyson's are known for damaging rugs. Miele doesn't. Check some carpet manufacturers. They will NULL and VOID the warranty if you use one. A Dyson that is... 3."But the S7/U1 platform is known to have serious issues with their hoses collapsing from not being able to withstand the suction": Short answer: "Yep, they sure did, but the new ones, made in the last several production years arent doing that", even with being used with a optional Turbo brush. Long answer: Now one, or all could ask in an online poll of how many companies have issues with those slinky hoses. LOTS do. I wish I could tell HOW many hoses I have replaced on Dyson's over the years at 50+ dollars a crack. Believe me James DyS sleeps on the feathers of angels over the money he makes from all the replacement parts hes sold, or the denying of 5 year guarantee. People spend LOTS of money fixing the big D's too, due the abysmal build quality of his hoses, and in total, whole cleaners in many cases. Not all Dysons are bad, but a larger amount of them are troublesome. Ask ANY reputable vacuum dealer. Very few if ANY like them, or think a customer gets a good deal from. Addendum: That said, Miele has made it clear that any early production cleaner that comes in with a hose issue can be warrantied, after inspection by your dealer with a new style hose. Try that with Malmesbury England during it's five year "guarantee".. They would laugh, hang up a on you after some snide comment, and go back to their English Breakfast, and digestive biscuit. Miele knew they screwed up with making the hose too light, and fixed it. So there is that. 4."And some other plastic components tending to break (rear wheels and bag collar mounts are reported to be weak spots)". Short Answer: these parts have been redesigned too. And are used in all current model U1 cleaners. The long answer is: The new ones arent having the same issues, unless some HARD dropping of the actual unit goes down onto the wheels. Even then the rear wheels arent failing like they did at first. They use a stronger steel axle/support bar that does not twist if the machine is dropped down hard. 98% of my early issue machines were admitted "I dropped it". So Miele decided to upgrade the rear wheel assembly, thus has been re-engineered. I've yet to have a machine come back for that problem after it is remedied with the current production part. Problem solved. I cant tell you how many junked Dysons and other brands are brought in with the same problem. And try getting a warranty out of that. Most companies are like" nope not our problem, Including the big D". Furthermore, the bag holder issue is another problem of the past. While they did not totally eliminate the problem , the one being complained about by the online reviews... Miele, knowing that not ever consumer is gentle or caring about their appliance, designed that bag holder PURPOSELY with a break away feature. Instead of breaking something more expensive (like the body this device attaches into; it was somewhat easy to yank out the bag holder when taking out a bag. They are less than $10.00 to replace, and Miele usually covers it when lost under warranty. The FIRST time...LOL... Admittedly, over half of the customers asked were amazed to know that it was their fault, for being careless and over exerted when trying to pull out a bag with such a smooth action.. Once you show them that you dont have to yank at the whole device...they are like Ohs, and after we put in the new part it again rarely happens twice. If you yank hard enough on the OLD or the NEW part, it WILL come out. Although, and I show this now in the demo. You really have to pull like hell to get it to pop out now. If you do it now, you doing it wrong. There is no need to pull out the bag using that kind of force. And it's really not that hard to change a bag, or the filters on a Miele. far better that fooling with filters, or dumping cans for the competition. Finally, Yes Miele bags are expensive, but if maintained properly those filters on the Dysons arent cheap either. In the price of four bags, which should last what you have described for at LEAST a year, it includes all the filters a maverick/Twist will need. And he wont have to mess with keeping the dirt out of the motor either, like all new Dysons. If you had any idea the number of broken wand/hose latches, handle releases, cord hooks, canister trap door latches have been broken on competition cleaners, including Dyson... It's staggering... Either way, Proper use, and care of a Miele, or really ANY brand will keep any machine rolling along. No Mieles arent pefect, but none really are. My final piece of advice to you is this.. Go into you local dealer. TRY one out. Other that the weight of a Miele, the rest of it is, and can be easily alleviated as far as durability concern. Believe, at 449- you wont get anything that can last as long as A Miele, thats for sure. Most vacuum stores will agree. And Dyson are around that price point too. As are many other brands/kinds. Go talk to a local professional, or two if there are different shops. Maybe then one can can be saved from the Dyson dream, or any of the others...LMAO!! Best of luck!! Chad | ||
| Post# 386395 , Reply# 13 2/19/2018 at 18:05 (2,251 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
Don't go Dyson. Those are like pushing a brick across your floor. Here's a good one; Bissell Zing. It's light, easy to use, maneuverable, and it's affordable, at only $50. If he's not too hard on vacuums, this might be a good fit. They make both bagged and bagless versions. I would get the bagged one for him.
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| Post# 386405 , Reply# 14 2/19/2018 at 19:35 (2,251 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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One also needs to consider that the housekeeper that is hired may be using said vacuum as well. That or the housekeeper needs to provide the vacuum of her preference when doing the cleaning. A lot but not all of the hired help can be very hard on equipment that they don't own. | ||
| Post# 386431 , Reply# 16 2/20/2018 at 07:04 (2,250 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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One thing about those great Miele S7 Dynamic uprights: they’ve got a really long cord on them...I think it’s 39 feet or something like that. And it’s easy to wind up because the cord hooks are located pretty high up on the cleaner.
It’s also one of the very few uprights - along with a Kirby - to achieve an “excellent” mark for carpet cleaning in Consumer Reports tests. I like the look of the white “Cat & Dog” S7 with the headlight, but it’s out of your price range. | ||
| Post# 386432 , Reply# 17 2/20/2018 at 07:38 (2,250 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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| Post# 386434 , Reply# 18 2/20/2018 at 07:58 (2,250 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia) | ||
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The Aerus classic would be a good choice, but I am sure it would be above the price threshold. | ||
| Post# 386444 , Reply# 19 2/20/2018 at 13:28 (2,250 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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| Post# 386446 , Reply# 21 2/20/2018 at 13:32 (2,250 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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