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Thread Number: 35846
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Hoover RS Convertible U4597 Agitator Oddity |
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| Post# 384637 1/22/2018 at 11:15 (2,283 days old) by Phaeton (Los Angeles ) | ||
Is a Hoover Convertible a Hoover Convertible when the brushroll does not have Beater Bars?
I have had 3 Hoover RS Convertible Models U4597 and I sold one a few months back. I did not paint the brushroll I did not notice there were no Beater Bars on the brushroll until today when I looked at pictures of it. You see I was painting the brushroll of a second Hoover RS Model U4597 yesterday and this morning I said to myself, I forgot to mask off the Beater Bars so I will go strip it, mask the Beater Bars and repaint it again. So today I was ready to do just that when I saw it also had no Beater Bars on it. I then when in the house and check out the near mint RS and it does have Beater Bars on the brushroll. Were these 2 brushrolls without Beater Bars a mistake or intentionally made without them? Also in the picture of the 3 brushrolls why did Hoover changed the direction of the Beater Bars and brushes? That bottom brushroll is out of a late 60’s Hoover, the middle one is out of the really nice RS that I have had for so time and the top is out of the RS I am Cleaning up. The first 2 pictures are of the RS I sold a few months back and there are no Beater Bars. Pictures 3 and 4 are of the newly painted RS brushroll without Beater Bars. The fifth picture is newly painted RS brushroll and the RS brushroll from my nice RS and it has Beater Bars. The sixth picture I added a late 60's Convertible Brushroll for comparison. The last 3 pictures are of all the ID Tags of the 3 RS with the first being the on I sold, the second is the one I am working on and the third is the one I have had and is in nice condition which I believe was manufactured in the month of January. So why some RS were sold without Beater Bars? While I like Hoovers I am no expert capable of answering this question. Thank you for looking, Pete | ||
| Post# 384646 , Reply# 3 1/22/2018 at 12:29 (2,283 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT) | ||
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Later convertibles, like yours… …had a front-mounted converter that attached to the bottom plate covering the brushroll. Here is a demonstration of the later setup. This can also be accomplished with the cleaner running. CLICK HERE TO GO TO hooverU4089's LINK | ||
| Post# 384647 , Reply# 4 1/22/2018 at 12:30 (2,283 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT) | ||
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As for your brushrolls, the ones without the beater bars were likely replacements, but still made by Hoover, probably for the commercial machines. I believe all Convertibles had beater bars but I am not entirely certain. | ||
Post# 384648 , Reply# 5 1/22/2018 at 12:57 (2,283 days old) by kloveland  (Tulsa) |
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| Post# 384649 , Reply# 6 1/22/2018 at 13:29 (2,283 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
lack of beat bars
was a cost reduction for the budget machines. hoover wanted you to get a higher end convertible, or dial a matic / concept depending on the era. from what tom anderson told me, the very cheap convertibles like the RS at the end of the convertible era, were made this way. the build quality of these budget convertibles wasnt as quality either. motors lesser quality, brushrolls with no beat bars, single speed , etc.
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| Post# 384652 , Reply# 7 1/22/2018 at 17:03 (2,283 days old) by Phaeton (Los Angeles ) | ||
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Hello All,
While I have repaired hundreds of vacuum I stopped working at the shop in the early 80's and not until recently have I started working on them. I would never have thought Hoover would make a residential vacuum without Beater Bars. Now I do own some old Hovers such as 105, 541 that do not have the beater bars and I just thought that from the 543 and 700 up would have them. My 305 has beater bars and I know the NORCA 1 and 80 did not. I must clarify this I have attachment sets for my 543, 700, 28, 61 and 65 and I have always had a trusty Lux G, 30 and 1205 to use. Well thank you all, I guess I missed a few years and to be totally honest I have not heard of some of the vacuums being talked about or collected today. Thank you for looking, Pete | ||
| Post# 384656 , Reply# 8 1/22/2018 at 17:50 (2,283 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA) | ||
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I bought a pink Hoover upright in the early to mid 70's while in college. Didn't have the light and snap buttons on the bag instead of a zipper. Was an economy Hoover (John told me once what those models were called) for sure, but it had the beater bars.
Kevin | ||
| Post# 384665 , Reply# 9 1/22/2018 at 18:36 (2,283 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211) | ||
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| Post# 384690 , Reply# 10 1/23/2018 at 14:29 (2,282 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan) | ||
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| Post# 384697 , Reply# 12 1/23/2018 at 15:19 (2,282 days old) by Phaeton (Los Angeles ) | ||
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Hoover Attachment Set U4901
Hello All and 2011hoover700,
The set in the picture is Hoover Attachment Set U4901 which would be used on Hoovers such as my Hoover RS that is pictured above that are the economical Hoovers. I do not remember if you leave the belt on or not as I do not own the set. I think the were similar to what some Eureka vacuums used. I took the picture off eBay as there are many on eBay. This I think was Item No. 263435035390. If you just put the numbers in the search line it will come up and if you just put U4901 you will see more of them. I hope this helped you visualize how it works, the plate in the middle of the hose attaches to the bottom plate. Thank you for looking, Pete
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| Post# 384734 , Reply# 14 1/24/2018 at 04:23 (2,282 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan) | ||
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| Post# 384749 , Reply# 16 1/24/2018 at 12:47 (2,281 days old) by hooverU4089 (CT) | ||
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@2011hoover700: Unfortunately I do not have any Convertible tool sets so I cannot post a video. | ||
| Post# 384770 , Reply# 17 1/24/2018 at 18:41 (2,281 days old) by Phaeton (Los Angeles ) | ||
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