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Post# 384482   1/18/2018 at 23:52 (212 days old) by vacuumdevil (Denver)        

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I got this hoover for long term testing . here is what I think so far .
















Post# 384489 , Reply# 1   1/19/2018 at 06:25 (212 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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They do a pretty decent job for a cordless.
What did it go down to on your particle test Alex? There's no HEPA filter with these vacs.


Post# 384500 , Reply# 2   1/19/2018 at 09:48 (212 days old) by vacuumdevil (Denver)        

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@Vacfan1982 It's in the 100-200k range .
I did a video comparing modern lithium ion cordless vacuums. I had the a no go in the mix which upset Tacony . Which is why I had to remove that video from YouTube.


Post# 384501 , Reply# 3   1/19/2018 at 10:44 (211 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Thanks Alex. I do like the look of the Riccar cordless but sadly not available in the UK.
I wish Sebo would consider introducing a cordless vac. I've gone off bagless vacs. Too messy for me!


Post# 384544 , Reply# 4   1/20/2018 at 03:37 (211 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Cordless vacuum-I have the Simplicity Freedom cordless upright-it has a HUGE Filtrete bag-no messy bins or filters to deal with.I haven't done a particle meter test on mine.The battery on the Simplicity is fixed-it will run the machine for an hour.I have an MD freestanding 15A central vacuum with the HyperFlow Filtrete bag.Right now using it with the TruSeal Filtrete closed bag.The HyperFlow has better filtration-the TruSeal is easier to replace.The TruSeal holds 8 gal-the HyperFlow up to 12.At the vac shop here they got a central vac call involving the MD machine--no suction-turned out the HyperFlow bag was STUFFED with 60lbs of dirt!Replaced the bag and it was fine.The customer didn't know when the bag was replaced-he moved into the house.He used it until the machine no longer worked.I have used my central unit or my NSS M1 to slurp out baglees machines I have.My M1 has a disposable bag in the outer cloth one.

Post# 384545 , Reply# 5   1/20/2018 at 05:02 (211 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Hi Rex I I stalled an MD Central Vac last year. I'm loving it.The true seal bag is not available in the UK yet I have the open bag. Hopefully it will be available soon.

Post# 384547 , Reply# 6   1/20/2018 at 06:19 (211 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

VacFan-Glad you like your MD central vacuum-they are the best ones-mine isn't really "installed"use it freestanding with the 35' hose plugged into the utility inlet.Works as a SUPER POWERFUL canister vacuum.Gret for using with various powernozzles.

Post# 384588 , Reply# 7   1/21/2018 at 01:38 (210 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

My MD central vacuum is the Silentmaster one.

Post# 384614 , Reply# 8   1/21/2018 at 17:33 (209 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
md central vacuums and cordless vacs

I have the flomaster m85, I have not changed to the closed bags, I don't mind changing the open bags and I would think the open bags would provide better airflow. I use all of my central vacuum units free standing, connecting a hose directly to one of those is awesome. I think the freedom cordless is also what the volt nozzle is based on. Tacony just removed the bag and installed a connection for a hose to go in to. Tacony has also recently introduced a cordless vacuum called the roam, it has an interesting spinning brush on it, similar to the CT10 power nozzle, it's a softer brush so it can be used on hard floors.
Mike


Post# 384621 , Reply# 9   1/21/2018 at 19:06 (209 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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You mean the VAX air cordless. 😉

Post# 384630 , Reply# 10   1/22/2018 at 00:51 (209 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

for my Silentmaster I have both the open top HyperFlow bags or the TruSeal closed bag-as far as airflow goes-don't notice much of a difference.The HyperFlow bags can hold more stuff-and filter slightly better.My Silentmaster is my favorite central vacuum.Have it freestanding in my central hallway.

Post# 384667 , Reply# 11   1/22/2018 at 18:42 (208 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
my favorite central vacuum units

I have 8 of them throughout my apartment and I use them all free standing. My flomaster uses 8 gallon bags where as the silent master uses 12 gallon bags I think, it also uses a flow through motor rather than a bi-pass motor, I know there is a lot of debate on whether the bi-pass motor is better, the flow through motors can be just as powerful though.
I have several favorite central vacuum units for different reasons. My Purvac Barracuda is very quiet but very powerful, 151 water lift and I think about 144 CFM. My Vacumaid sr800 uses the Ametek 8.4 inch double fan bi-pass motor, this is the most powerful motor that Ametek offers for 120 volts. I'm also really fond of my Vacumaid garage vac pro, it uses a 5.7 double fan flow through motor, 138 water lift and 138 CFM. It is designed to give you the power of a central vacuum without pipes, rather than a pipe in-take, there is a hose in-let right on the unit. And then there's the Drainvac Atomik, it's so small that it can set on a counter but it has 125 water lift and I think around 140 CFM. It comes with a utility valve screwed on to the in-take making it very portable since it has a handle on the top for carrying, but you can easily remove the utility valve and attach a pipe if desired. Very awesome machines for sure. I wish my apartment had a 220 volt outlet, there are some two motor machines that I would love to have. There are some two motor units that use 120 volts but I've read that those do not work very well since the motors are rather small.
Mike


Post# 384673 , Reply# 12   1/22/2018 at 21:59 (208 days old) by vacuumdevil (Denver)        

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@AlexHoovers94 yes I rather like the Hoover's that used to be vax products.
Or is my friend calls them "Ten Tong Industries"

@n0oxy @tolivac let's start a separate thread and brag about our Central Vacuums. As we all know they're my favorite kind of vacuum!

@tolivac I rather like the S10cv and the R10cv! They're great cordless vacuums!
But I doubt Tacony would be sending me sample Vacuums anytime soon Lol .
As we all know I'm their favorite customer.


Post# 384719 , Reply# 13   1/23/2018 at 20:58 (207 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
central vacuums

I'm not opposed to starting a thread about our central vac units, I love mine. Since I don't like uprights and much prefer to clean with any kind of canister, using a central vacuum is awesome. And connecting the hose directly to a unit without pipes makes it even better, no pipes to restrict air flow.
Mike


Post# 384729 , Reply# 14   1/24/2018 at 00:57 (207 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I like BOTH types of machines and use them.Fun to connect my Kirby to the MD central unit!!!The Kirby makes for one REALLY powerful tandem air powernozzle!!!!Its awkward-but effective!

Post# 384733 , Reply# 15   1/24/2018 at 02:34 (207 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Rex how do you connect your central vac hose to the Kirby? Did you make an adapter?
Does sound like an amazing combo!


Post# 384735 , Reply# 16   1/24/2018 at 06:39 (207 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Yes,used an adaptor made from a piece of 1.25" vacuum hose to the Kirby hose-you put the Kirby hose on the fan output where you would put the bag.My "adaptor" was free got a scrap of hose from the vac shop.Its about 6" long.

Post# 384736 , Reply# 17   1/24/2018 at 07:00 (207 days old) by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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That's a very good idea. I'd like to try that.😁
One question. When Riccar designed the Tandem Air cleaners I think they had to balance the air flow between the direct air motor and the clean air motor. I wonder how well this works with the Kirby and Central vac?


Post# 384902 , Reply# 18   1/27/2018 at 02:58 (204 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

When I tgried the Kirby on the MD Silentmaster-it did work well-picked up anything in the path-esp if you put a new bag in the MD-it was covered in fine dust and dirt,and the debris I picked up.It would seem the CFM of the two machines are close to each other.The MD would have more suction "pressure" if you want to put it that way-it has a dual fan suction system.The MD motor if full bypass-the motor itself has its own cooling fan.Doesn't rely on the cleaning airstream for cooling the motor.The Kiurby motor like all direct air uprights has its own cooling fan,too.When I do the Kirby -MD setup have to connect the machines to separate 120V circuits.

Post# 384956 , Reply# 19   1/28/2018 at 09:14 (203 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
the volt

The volt works really well here as well. I tend to use it with my straight suction canisters to clean my area rugs, if I'm using a central vacuum I will usually hook up one of my electric power nozzles, I think I have all of the major ones, but feel free to check out my profile and let me know if I am missing any. The design of the volt nozzle is ingenious, although it isn't the first tandom air power nozzle, I think air-way had that on one of their models.
Mike


Post# 385016 , Reply# 20   1/29/2018 at 01:53 (202 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I believe Air-Way had a powernozzle made from an Eureka upright machine.Would like one of those!

Post# 385017 , Reply# 21   1/29/2018 at 01:59 (202 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

A note on using the Kirby with a canister vacuum-you will need to put tape over the swivel hose that goes on the discharge outlet on the Kirby-the swivel on that hose end is NOT dust tight.When I went by one of my HID lights-could see the dust!!!Tape cured that-but that end of the hose no longer swivels.Doesn't matter for that use.I did another funky thing-connected one Kirby as an upright into another made up as a canister!Made me think of the Sci-Fi horror movie "Centipede" where a mad scientist connected people mouth to butt!Was a GROSS but funky movie!




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