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Post# 384279   1/15/2018 at 01:22 by markhenry (USA)        

Hey,

Considering im at 1 grand give or take price wise on a vacuum...

Is there any point at looking at wet/dry vacuums?

I mean, commercial vacuums have like 200+ CFM Which kills Kirby and everything else... and still cost roughly the same as a domestic vacuum....

Thats one thing I dont get?





Post# 384281 , Reply# 1   1/15/2018 at 02:47 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

What are you going to use the vacuum for?Picking up sawdust,renovations,demolition and such?Industrial use?

Post# 384283 , Reply# 2   1/15/2018 at 03:31 by markhenry (USA)        

For the house... if the vacuums stronger etc and same price why get a weaker home style vac if the commercial one is better/stronger?

Thats what I dont get... why pay 1000 + for a home vac when u can get a way more powerful vac for the home buy getting a commercial one for the same money.

Theres gotta be something Im missing... cause that just doenst make ANY sense.


Post# 384288 , Reply# 3   1/15/2018 at 06:37 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Commercial W/D vacuums aren't meant for home use-I have a couple-do use them for sawdust paper shreddings,and such.These do not have the filtration that HEPA type residential bagged vacuums have.The attachments for these machines are larger and heavier than traditional 1.25" attachments.Commerical attachments are 1.5-2" and are clumsier.A GOOD commercial vacuum you can use at home--go for an NSS M1.This is a dry only vacuum-it can do home cleaning easily.Its a direct air "canister" with the filter bag on top of the unit and a large "snout" the 1.5 in hose attaches to.And as a bonus-make sure the snout is clear of objects or stuff-and put the hose on the blower out that normally feeds the bag.Then the machine makes for a good wheeled blower!!!But again make sure the scrap trap.snout is clear of anything-otherwise it will be blown thru the hose with great force!

Post# 384785 , Reply# 4   1/25/2018 at 01:28 by compactc9guy (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        
SHOPVAC

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For a good wet and dry vacuum at a good price you cannot beat a shop vac I own Shop-Vac 16 gallons ultra Wet and Dry whit 24 feet hose whit cartridge filter tear resistant wet and dry bag 2/12 hose inlet by 8 feet x3 so 24 feet in all love it i use it upstairs for big cleaning job .And now you can have a fine dust bag and fine dust hepa filter cartridge for shopvac also.

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Post# 384788 , Reply# 5   1/25/2018 at 07:23 by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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They mostly are also a bit noisy and cumbersome for indoor use I feel.

Post# 384791 , Reply# 6   1/25/2018 at 08:12 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Agree....would be like pulling a cow by the tail in your living room. If you like that style, go with a Filter Queen or used Rainbow.

 

Kevin


Post# 384812 , Reply# 7   1/25/2018 at 14:26 by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

or U can go 4 a Ridgid WD0670 6 gallon wet/dry vac

www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGI...

www.ridgid.com/us/en/6000rv-6-ga...

www.acehardware.com/product/index...

Whichever one U choose, be sure 2 upgrade 2 the 2 1/2" hose & HEPA filter; & get the VF3503 filter bags 4 best results


Post# 384827 , Reply# 8   1/25/2018 at 16:46 by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I have a Shop Vac and find it way too loud to use in the house, and it tends to top over also. If you have carpeting, these types of vacuums don't have power nozzles because they are wet/dry machines.

For cleaning out the car or other uses, I love the Shop Vac, just not for regular cleaning inside.


Post# 385036 , Reply# 9   1/29/2018 at 11:16 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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You can also get a Numatic for that style too. I agree with the others here as well for the Wet/Dry vacuums, these are mainly designed for outdoor, construction, or flood use. Now just like other expensive vacuums, there are some Wet/Dry vacuums like DeWalt, Bosch, or Festool that offer things that alot of others don't have. Some are not as big, some offer better filtration, some are really quiet, some offer a self cleaning filter, or some offer outlets that you can convert other powertools on for example.

Post# 385037 , Reply# 10   1/29/2018 at 12:33 by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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More power doesnít always equal better cleaning, especially on carpets. Heck, more power doesnít necessarily mean more suction! And how much suction do you really need? Itís all well and good trying to find the most powerful vacuum you can, but it the suction is so strong that itís difficult to use, then itís a pointless avenue to go down.

Post# 385040 , Reply# 11   1/29/2018 at 12:59 by Vacfan1982 (Cardiff)        

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Vacuums such as Kirby , Miele, Riccar have more than enough airflow to deep clean carpets. But as Vaclab has shown in his YouTube videos a lot have cleaners out there have very low airflow, they might pick up surface dust but they fail getting the deep down dust that care wear carpets prematurely.

Post# 385061 , Reply# 12   1/30/2018 at 07:19 by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

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My Wet/Dry vac is a Home Depot Bucket Head 5 Gallon. It's a vacuum motor that clips onto a 5 gallon bucket. It's $20 at Home Depot plus the $5 or so for the bucket, as the bucket is sold separately. It's top heavy, so you can't drag it around that easily and the hose is stiff. It's good for cleaning cars and sawdust.

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Post# 385070 , Reply# 13   1/30/2018 at 11:55 by Phaeton (Los Angeles)        
Sounds like markhenry might need this?

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Hello All,
I just bought this a few days ago and it sort of fits in this Thread.
I was told they took it out of the box, tried it and then put it back in the box. Only one tool shows signs of use. The power head has never been used.
On the Sears label that is attached to the box is the date of 1993. I bought it to replace a Bissell of about the sane design less the power head.
The power head has a light in it and is heavy but I have no idea how good or bad it will clean a carpet.
The pamphlet is stamped "Inspected by Shirley Wright" so it's just got to be good. Isn't she Carol Wright's sister? Oh I heard someone say no, LOL
I am sorry to say I will never use this in the house as a vacuum.
For markhenry I do not recommend nor would I use a Shop Vac as a vacuum for the home.
So yes I agree with all whom have made comments.
Plus, I believe they are all single stage motors and that is why they make so much noise. If I am wrong about that, sorry.
I bought this Kenmore 5 Way Cleaning System, boy that sound great, to use to clean the carpets and upholstery in the cars as I think it should be good for that type job.
Thank you for looking,
Pete




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Post# 385072 , Reply# 14   1/30/2018 at 11:56 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland)        

I liked the stability of the Hoover Aquamaster, dalek shaped. (pic from internet)

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Post# 385145 , Reply# 15   1/31/2018 at 21:31 by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

We could have used the Sears vacuum when I was at home. What 2 to 5 kids can loose in shag carpeting is hard on a vacuum.

I know I knocked the fan blades off the Kirby several times. We considered a lawn rake and magnate bar to go over the floors before vacuuming a few times. If you couldn't find it first with either of those it was probably safe to vacuum the floor.


Post# 385200 , Reply# 16   2/1/2018 at 18:12 by fan-of-fans (USA)        

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I love that Kenmore 5 way cleaning system, I've always wanted one of them since I saw them in the Sears catalogs. Actually I never knew they had a dry power nozzle until I saw them on here. The ones in my catalogs were just the Power Spray or Cleanmores that just had the cleaning head or an optional Spraymate nozzle for shampooing.

But I think that would be a great vacuum to use around the house, and it's in great shape too!

That Hoover Aquamaster is interesting, too bad we didn't get those here that I knew of. Hoover mostly just had the upright Steamvacs as far as I'm aware and the portable cleaners.


Post# 385485 , Reply# 17   2/5/2018 at 20:36 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Maybe

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I'm no expert but commercial vacuums I have researched a lot. The best commercial vacuum albeit it's not a wet dry vacuum but commercial vacuum cleaner is proteam back pack vacuum. It runs 500-640 depending on the attachments. If I had 600 bucks I'd buy one. Here is link to the item on Amazon. I though I'd add my 2 cents another one to look into. VacLab has it ebay. Hope it helps.
NEW More Powerful Proteam MegaVac 10 qt Backpack Vacuum Cleaner 10 quart Mega Vac www.amazon.com/dp/B0170MG...


Post# 385486 , Reply# 18   2/5/2018 at 20:44 by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Hey

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Link is jacked up. On Amazon proteam backpack commercial vacuum cleaner 10qt.

Post# 385495 , Reply# 19   2/5/2018 at 21:13 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
wet dry vacs and backpacks

I have 8 wet dry vacs, most are fairly loud, the quietest one is probably my Craftsman 5 gallon. Most of these do not have the power and filtration of a household vacuum. If you really want to clean carpets with one, you could always get the volt power nozzle.
I'm a big fan of backpack vacuums. I have 8 of those as well. While mainly designed for commercial use, these do work well for cleaning your house or apartment, and they filter well especially if you use cloth bags instead of paper bags. Surprisingly most of these do not include an electric power nozzle or even the hook up for one, but there are kits available that will allow you to use one on a backpack if you wish, and for cleaning carpet, you need one.
Mike


Post# 385509 , Reply# 20   2/6/2018 at 00:58 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

W/D vacuums-they have MORE power than a standard home vacuum-its in the CFM-amount of air the vacuum moves.These do not have the suction "pressure" as in inches of water.Most W/D machines are designed for picking up BULKY materials-sawdust,demo debris,wood,metal shavings and such.I do have a Tornado Task Force-sold thru Grainger-this machine is a beast!!!15A motor and very high CFM.Has a GIANT external cloth filter bag that connects to the motors blower output.The idea with this vacuum is large,havy items stay in the 16 gal drum-fines go into the bag.The fan looks like a turbocharger fan!I am going to try this vacuum with the Volt powernozzle-the Tornado vacuum has a 1.5 in hose.Also the mortor on this is detachable from the drum so you could use it as a blower-and very powerful one at that!I have other W/D machines and they all beat standard machines in CFM.Filtration can be just as good on these if you use the Filtrte bags(shop Vac)-they are not easy to get-and team them with the pleated motor filter and the filtration should be as good as a regular vacuum.I have a new Shop Vac 14 Gal vacuum-use the yellow multiplayer paper "drywall" bag in it and the machine came with the pleated HEPA filter.You really should NOT use the pleated filters alone-they will clog QUICKLY this way-use them with a bag.This new machine-came from Lowes has a sort of square,transparent drum.Weird to see the disposable bag inflate inside when turned on!

Post# 385601 , Reply# 21   2/7/2018 at 19:05 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
hose sizes

There are 4 hose sizes for these machines but most wet dry vacs have the same size in-let on them, I think it's 2-1/4 so you can use whatever hose size you prefer. There's the standard 1-1/4 size, also known as 1.25, this hose size will take all of the standard vacuum attachments from household vacuums. There's another size that Ridgid uses on some of their models, I'm not sure if any other manufacturer uses it, it's 1 7/8 in size. Then there's the 1.5 inch hose, this is the size that is commonly used for commercial applications, there are a lot of attachments that fit this hose size. Finally there is the 2 1/4 size, I've only used this hose size a few times and it's very hard to work with, very bulky and hard to manage. The good thing is that most hoses have the 2 1/4 connector so you can use whichever hose size meets your needs, I would suggest the 1.25 or 1.5 sizes. Here is an article with more information about these kinds of vacuums.
Mike


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