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Post# 383039   12/23/2017 at 00:41 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Lol.....last time I went down this road I was playing with my dawgs and did a swan dive on top of my G. This time we were hastily putting stuff in the basement of my new house and I got the G out to vacuum dust off of some items (I'm storing vacs down there too).  In a hurry I was attaching the hose and leaning WAY too hard on the G. Nothing quite like that sickening sound of an aqua green wheel snapping. Oh well, the last time I broke three. My ex said it probably was one of the wheels I glued before. Nope...this one had never been broken. 


The G is a lot better at being a princess than a DD fer sure!





Post# 383066 , Reply# 1   12/23/2017 at 17:37 by huskyvacs (Indiana)        

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Keep in mind it's 60 years old too.

Post# 383068 , Reply# 2   12/23/2017 at 18:32 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Good point...the plastic IS brittle fer sure. But I was stupid as well.....I know better. My ex was here helping me move, I was in a hurry...perfect storm for abusing an old lady like the G. I could have just as easily pulled the 1205 off the shelf to do the same fact I don't know what made me reach for the G. 


It will glue fine and I'll just be more cautious. I did recently get some boxes of  old Elux parts and there's some G wheels in there that I believe aren't broken.



Post# 383105 , Reply# 3   12/25/2017 at 15:38 by fantomfan57 (Austin, Texas)        

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My G came by way of Shop back wheel cracked up. I carefully glued it back, piece by piece using a combo of liquid crazy glue and baking soda.

apply a bead to a crack and quickly douse with the soda....repeat.

Came out really strong and hard to see the repair.

Post# 383124 , Reply# 4   12/26/2017 at 08:52 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I never heard the baking soda part and crazy clue.......what's with that?




Post# 383125 , Reply# 5   12/26/2017 at 09:13 by jade_angel (Newport News, VA)        

The baking soda is there to make the crazy glue cure faster. Super glue is normally slightly acid; when you neutralize that acid with a weak base (like baking soda), it sets up more rapidly. That's the same principle that super glue accelerators like Zip Kicker use.

Post# 383131 , Reply# 6   12/26/2017 at 12:02 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Never knew that. I've used accelerators with other chemicals like seam sealer/patch repair.



Post# 383244 , Reply# 7   12/29/2017 at 02:45 by fantomfan57 (Austin, Texas)        

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I came across the repair online and have been using it successfully for a while now. I do not know the chemically how it works, but I can add that the seam has a warmth to it while processing.

Post# 383248 , Reply# 8   12/29/2017 at 08:26 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        


I Googled this and the explanations lack any kind of scientific data, but it's easy to see there is a thermo reaction with the cyanoacrylate glue and the soda. Where it really comes into its own is as a filler. I don't see anywhere the proof that using the soda makes the joint 'stronger'. Where everyone gets excited is when they actually build up the joint with the soda; some putting the soda on first and then dripping on the cyanoacrylate glue....or using the cyanoacrylate glue first and then putting on the powder.


Eventually, this led me to a UK link where they featured a very expensive looking plastic welder with plastic rods. Eastwood offers one of these and now so does Harbor Freight. The HF model only offers three rod types; ABS, PVC and PP. Manufacturers use about two dozen types of plastics. Some plastics react poorly to cyanoacrylate glues, as you can snap the joints even after a day of setting. That's why I usually defect to epoxy unless I know the plastic type and its reaction to cyanoacrylate glues. ABS plastics on the other hand react perfectly to black, plumbing glue. The joints are chemically bonded.


And all cyanoacrylate glues are not the same. Some will crystallize over the yrs and fail. I use Rhino cyanoacrylate glue. Loctite makes a 'plastic welder' glue that really works too. Comes with a felt type pen that you rub on both surfaces, let dry and then use the glue on one joint surface only. The glue however will not keep long in the tube once opened.








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