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I Wonder What Hoover Were Thinking When They Designed That!
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Post# 380953   11/8/2017 at 21:28 (224 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I have always been puzzled by Hoovers first use of disposable bags using this bottom fill system. I donít think it is a very good design personally, I mean where did they imagine the dirt would fill? Surely it could of possibly fell back down the tube and blocked the ducting.

I suppose it was easier to dispose of the dirt though, it is just a really odd design, anyone else have their thoughts on this?

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Post# 380956 , Reply# 1   11/8/2017 at 21:41 (224 days old) by FCS3 (Hawaii)        
Its just like evolution

Most pre-electric pneumo-vacs had a dust tube that went
less than a foot into the dust bin.
Most early electrics of any make, upright or hand-held,
had a bottom fill system without a dust tube.
When the idea of disposable dust bags came along, the same
old design of bottom fill persisted.

Why did it take 100 years to realize top fill might be

Post# 381017 , Reply# 2   11/9/2017 at 19:44 (223 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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This is one of the main reasons Eureka upright cleaners performed better than its Hoover competitors: Eureka introduced itís famous top-fill F&G bags way back in the early 1960ís with their Super Automatic uprights. The concept of having the dirt fall away from the air path at the top of the bag greatly improved air flow and allowed the Eurekas to maintain better suction as the bag filled. It also provided better filtration as you did not get a blast of dust kicked up whenever you turned in the machine.

It took Hoover about 15 years to replace those bottom-fill C bags with the improved top-fill Click and Clean design.

Post# 381019 , Reply# 3   11/9/2017 at 20:11 (223 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Not forgetting this Hoover design...Introduced in circa 1975.

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Post# 381077 , Reply# 4   11/10/2017 at 15:13 (222 days old) by huskyvacs (Northern Indiana)        

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Those paper bags that you have to slide around the fill tube and then try and maneuver that little spring around the bag without ripping it? Oh my god I hated those. I learned about them with my white Eureka ESP that was used to vacuum the basement, still deal with it to this day with a Hoover Convertible I got from the dump in 2010 (it was in mint condition but now it's a bit scuffed after 7 years in my garage)

Post# 381087 , Reply# 5   11/10/2017 at 18:11 (222 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
I Wonder What Hoover Were Thinking When They Designed That!

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The title of this topic also sums up well regarding the design of their first attempt at a two-motor Quik-Broom (models S2037 and S2043), their answer to Regina's Electrikbroom with Electrikbrush (later Powerteam). Why? Because, the Quik-Broom's design at the time wasn't really that suited to the Powermatic nozzle that had its own motor and belt-driven brush and, coupled with the smallish disposable bag, the lack of suction caused the motorized nozzle to grab the carpet too much as well as burn out the main motor. It also tended to weigh almost similar to the Dial-A-Matic!



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Post# 381090 , Reply# 6   11/10/2017 at 18:45 (222 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I suppose it would of been okay if you had a flat or just wanted something for upstairs.

Post# 381349 , Reply# 7   11/14/2017 at 23:25 (218 days old) by icee (Indiana)        

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I always wondered that about those hoover C bag models. I know alot of really old sweepers were bottom fill. But like, why did no one realize for that many years that top fill makes so much more sense?

Post# 381352 , Reply# 8   11/15/2017 at 01:45 (218 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)        

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I have the power head for that Hoover quick broom. But sadly no machine with it. :(

Post# 381360 , Reply# 9   11/15/2017 at 08:05 (218 days old) by Kloveland (Tulsa, OK)        
I have the same power head

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I just made my own and wired in a plug for the power nozzle out of a regular QS cassette quick broom. I wouldn't say it weighed as much as a Dial-A-Matic. One of the problems that I have run into with these is that the vac tends to topple over with the weight of the power nozzle. On the Montgomery Wards version that I had it fell over several times causing the front handle to break. Other than that it worked fairly well! 

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Post# 381399 , Reply# 10   11/15/2017 at 19:36 (217 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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They are different bags dor the Junior and Senior Here, they are H1

They are wider and shorter, rather than narrow and long...Always the way! 😂😂 Only kidding.

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Post# 381419 , Reply# 11   11/16/2017 at 08:07 (217 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        

well, then I'm ur man (kidding).
I'd call it the growing show. (garden variety) Mid height yet full bloom like an endless summer hydrangea.

Post# 381464 , Reply# 12   11/17/2017 at 03:57 (216 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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tongue-out HA!

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