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Thread Number: 35350
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Internet censorship the new Tacony product! |
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| Post# 380290 10/26/2017 at 11:24 (2,367 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
I wasn't sure which form to put this in so it will go here.
I got a call at 8:30 this morning that the current company I work for is account is getting suspended. Due to my videos in employee who does stuff on his own time on no associate with the business. Apparently Simplicity/Riccar cannot handle a little criticism. I will say I have several videos promoting their products as well that are now removed as requested. As somebody who is sold Tacony products for years and made them a lot of money I see this as a below-the-belt below. I don't believe anything I've ever said is so bad or exposed anything that needed a cover-up or censoring. They have a right to freedom of business as I have a right to freedom of speech. I wonder what vacuum lands thoughts are on a vacuum company intimidating people into getting press their way? CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK | ||
| Post# 380292 , Reply# 1 10/26/2017 at 12:21 (2,367 days old) by Hank (Cali) | ||
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| Post# 380295 , Reply# 3 10/26/2017 at 13:32 (2,367 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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| Post# 380300 , Reply# 5 10/26/2017 at 15:25 (2,367 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
I don't believe you.
Let's say the store you work for is ABC Vacuum (made up name). ABC Vacuum has an account with Tacony. Tacony will not suspend ABC Vacuum's account unless it's in arrears (non payment) OR ABC Vacuum has failed to comply with their written dealership agreement with Tacony. Tacony (as a company) could hardly care less what some random repair man employee does on you tube UNLESS it would be slanderous to them. In which case, ABC Vacuum wouldn't be called, the You Tube account holder (i.e. You) would get a cease and desist letter from the attorneys. | ||
| Post# 380305 , Reply# 7 10/26/2017 at 16:28 (2,367 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC) | ||
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I've seen people review Tacony products on Youtube. It's not fair. | ||
| Post# 380306 , Reply# 8 10/26/2017 at 16:36 (2,367 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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@dysonman1 That's what I don't understand why I have never been contacted by them directly it always seems to trickle down through our representative. My channel is relatively small and reaches a small audience. There are much larger YouTube channels example" Doug demuro" who make companies look far worse, Then me simply stating they could improve a few things.
Apparently because I do work for a dealer who sells their products that somehow puts the dealer in violation of of the dealer agreement. As I have repeatedly stated I do not represent any vacuum shop or any vacuum brand with "performance reviews" . I prefer to keep the dealership I work for as Anonymous as possible. | ||
| Post# 380307 , Reply# 9 10/26/2017 at 17:14 (2,367 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller) | ||
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Public relations is tricky business. Sorry to hear of their path forward. | ||
| Post# 380310 , Reply# 11 10/26/2017 at 17:52 (2,367 days old) by Hank (Cali) | ||
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They must not have much faith in their products if they are so worried about your videos, this actually says a lot about them as a company... Ive seen alot of your videos, probably all the tacony ones. I don't recall you ever bashing the machines (even though people on here will say different (fanboy-ism)), I do however remember your praising the symmetry line as will as the supralight varieties. Who knows maybe you are just the tip of the spear so to speak, maybe they will start doing it to everyone else who associates with their products that works in a vac shop.
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| Post# 380329 , Reply# 13 10/27/2017 at 13:48 (2,366 days old) by Beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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Sorry to hear this has happened to you, it does smack of them shutting you up, although I guess the contract with the shop probably overrides this... Happy to host your videos in question on my channel if it helps? I don't have the files though... All the best for the future though, keep us updated on any developments | ||
| Post# 380351 , Reply# 14 10/28/2017 at 01:28 (2,366 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana) | ||
I don't know if you knew this or not, but because of everything being on social media now, companies have ghost employees that patrol youtube/facebook/twitter and whatnot on a daily basis for certain words and search terms related to the company.
One of those people likely found your video (whatever the original title was) by searching for that, watched it, and reported you to the company you work for, and because of youtube's rules, you got reprimanded because a 3rd party reported you for hate speech violations and/or what they constitute as harassment. If anyone here goes dump diving, there is a forum on reddit about it, and on that forum when you are talking about some dumpster finds, you are asked to censor the name of the location you found them at. Like say "paperclips" instead of "staples" because that way the company cannot google it or know where it came from. | ||
| Post# 380437 , Reply# 16 10/30/2017 at 12:09 (2,363 days old) by FantomTechGuy (US) | ||
Wow | ||
| Post# 380440 , Reply# 17 10/30/2017 at 16:29 (2,363 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Yeah, I just read that Apple just fired a corporate employee because he allowed his daughter to video him showing her the features of his pre-release iPhone X and the video went viral when she posted it online. Pretty harsh.
The bottom line here is that corporate entities are pretty territorial about their messaging and go to great lengths to maintain control over it. The fact that you are an employee of one of their dealers and presumably shoot your videos at the store, regardless of whether you are on the clock or not, it would be easy for a casual viewer to misinterpret that as meaning that you're speaking for the store and/or the company. In the corporation's eyes, your actions as an employee are, in essence, the store's actions and your independent videos are seen by the corporation as rogue messaging on the part of the store, especially since you're shooting the videos on their premises. And since they have the store's phone number but not yours, it's easier for them to exert pressure on the store to discipline what they say as a misbehaving employee. Corporations are often very specific about what their franchisees can and cannot do. Often, there is verbiage written into the franchise agreement to codify those limitations. If the franchisee does things prohibited in the agreement or fails to do things that are required in the agreement, the franchisor has the right to take punitive action, up to and including suspending or even revoking the franchise. | ||
Post# 380450 , Reply# 18 10/30/2017 at 21:42 (2,363 days old) by luxlife  (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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Just a curious question...... Have you tested any other brands with the particle meter that "blow" a perfect score of zero? It seems that only the Miele machines do this in your reviews. I'm not bashing Miele. (I've owned a few) | ||
| Post# 380545 , Reply# 19 11/1/2017 at 17:20 (2,361 days old) by laup (alabama) | ||
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There's only 2 solutions to this problem. Become an engineer for tacony and fix their product yourself. Or you could start your own vac company and dominate tacony. lol | ||
| Post# 380781 , Reply# 21 11/6/2017 at 14:27 (2,356 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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| Post# 380784 , Reply# 22 11/6/2017 at 15:37 (2,356 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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Well I just received a call from Tacony.
John was Quiet gentleman like about the situation. They seem to just be upset about my harsh nature when I refer to things. He was kind of surprised when I mentioned I was a vacuum collector and didn't have any personal Vendetta against Tacony . I think they're thoroughly confused now. Especially after I explained to him that I judge all the product &companies like this. He didn't really make very many points on the phone but he did say he'd call me back I will keep you all posted. | ||
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Post# 380785 , Reply# 23 11/6/2017 at 16:42 (2,356 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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vacuumdevil | ||
| Post# 380791 , Reply# 24 11/6/2017 at 18:11 (2,356 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller) | ||
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Mr. John got pooh in his pants when he heard you were a collector. Marketers know collectors are the thought leaders and can make or break a brand. Their story may change. They'll probably mail you their top of the line product as a peace offering. | ||
| Post# 380872 , Reply# 26 11/7/2017 at 20:13 (2,355 days old) by Sharky (Germany) | ||
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"Thought leaders" Quote, "Marketers know collectors are the thought leaders and can make or break a brand." Are you serious or just being sarcastic? | ||
| Post# 386052 , Reply# 28 2/14/2018 at 10:28 (2,256 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
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Tacony wants to beat the dead horse on Internet Censorship. | ||
| Post# 386081 , Reply# 29 2/14/2018 at 18:03 (2,256 days old) by royalfan (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 386203 , Reply# 30 2/16/2018 at 08:35 (2,254 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY) | ||
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