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Miele C3 Marin - First Impressions
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Post# 378463   9/15/2017 at 13:08 by Jumby75 (Los Angeles, CA)        

The C3 Marin arrived yesterday and I tried it out last night. The first thing I noticed is that it's amazingly quiet. It's also light weight and maneuvers pretty easy, but I do feel the casters are quite small on the canister. It rolls around okay on my carpet, but I feel if the wheels were a bit bigger, it would probably maneuver better (although it's not that bad). I also love the easy to access attachments and I thought I would have an issue with the smaller size, but they're actually not that bad. I don't really use a dusting brush much and mostly stick with the crevice and upholstery tool. The smaller crevice tool is okay by and did pretty well. I ordered a wide upholstery brush and the dusting brush that is longer and has an angle to it. They both work quite well and I do like the extended line of attachments for the Miele.

The wand is heavier than I would like, and I think the Sebo wins in that category because I know they are lighter. However, it's not a huge detriment. It's extremely easy to extend and retract, as well as putting the tools on and off. The Kenmore Ultra Plush Elite that I returned was a pain in the wand department. I didn't like the overly complicated connections on either end...and by complicated I mean there was just so much on there and not simple like the Miele and Sebo. I like a simple wand and easy to use wand. The parquet floor tool is also very nice and easy to use and does the job quite well.

One thing I previously "complained" about was the inability to adjust the suction from the handle, but the Miele Marin has an auto adjust suction as well as manual. The auto setting, to my surprise, works quite well. In my opinion it comes in handy when working with the attachments and I manually adjusted the suction to the highest setting for my carpets. When using the upholstery and crevice tools, I could hear the canister switch speeds to compensate. Itís a pretty cool feature.

The SEB236 PN is quite a workhorse and I have a thicker frieze (although I call it shag) carpet. It works well on the highest and second highest setting and grooms the carpets quite nicely. What I also like about it is the ability to adjust the height with my foot, something the SEBO ET-1 PN does not have (although itís probably not a big deal to bend down and adjust). Not only that, but itís also pretty quiet and I do like the headlight. Not sure why, but I just feel a PN should have a headlight. I also liked the fact I could take the wand off and connect the PN directly to the handle and do my stairs that way. Much better than using a smaller power brush and the handle is comfortable, so that doesnít pose a problem. Also, given the canister is light and smaller in size, I can just stand it on its end on the stair without any worry of it falling over. That was a HUGE plus.

However, with all that said there is a major issue with the PN and the wand connection. That connection must not fit well because the PN will go "dead" intermittently when I'm pulling the PN back when vacuuming. Then, when I push the PN forward, I can feel the wand push down a tad into the PN connection and it turns on again. It's not constant, but enough to where it is definitely an issue. I checked to make sure I connected it right and canít see where I could have done this wrong . This concerns me that this is an issue for Miele and given repairs and parts are not cheap, this is making me second guess the machine. Does anyone have any insight as to whether this is a long time issue?
Other than what I mentioned above, this is a great great machine.

I am scheduled to try out the Sebo next week and I am still stuck on the RICAR Prima. I have not had a chance to see or test the RICCAR, but I would like to even though my dealer told me the Tandem Air PNís are not built too well. So Iím wondering if the non-Tandem Air would be okay on the PRIMA. I feel like that vacuum has everything I would need and I really like the attachments offered for it.

Post# 378469 , Reply# 1   9/15/2017 at 15:51 by Tseg (World Traveller)        

Sorry to hear about the wand connector issue. That is not right and there should be next to no play. I push my powerhead foot lever down when connecting and it is a very snug connection. I assume this was a new purchase and bought under warranty? Have you discussed with the vendor that sold you the machine?

Is the wiggle room between the wand bottom and the powerhead? Or is the wiggle room in the middle of the tube where it telescopes? Or is the wiggle room where the handle connects to the wand? I can force some wiggle in mine where the handle connects to the wand, but it is pretty snug on its own, and wiggling does not mess with the current. Where the telescoping occurs and the powerhead fit are very tight on mine.

Post# 378471 , Reply# 2   9/15/2017 at 17:19 by Jumby75 (Los Angeles, CA)        

Maybe that's the problem is that I'm not pushing the PN foot lever down before I put the wand back into the PN. I'll try that tonight, but to answer your question about the wiggle room, it's definitely where the wand connects to the PN. The connection from the handle to the wand is just fine and so is the telescope part. All of that is tight.

This comes from an online retailer and I have to admit that I questioned the vacuum when I received it. The box was banged up a bit and the powerhead had a scuff mark on it like it had been used. The box didn't show any sign of being opened up, so I don't know. It is returnable, so I'm okay there and I plan on purchasing from my dealer. He just let me know that he doesn't have a SEBO E-3, but is willing to let me try the D-4 for a couple of days since the motor and PN are the same. So that will be cool to see these two side by side and I'm also going to explore the Riccar Prima a bit when I'm there tomorrow.

Post# 378488 , Reply# 3   9/16/2017 at 00:26 by Tseg (World Traveller)        

Yes, in my wand at the bottom there is a square forward facing cut out in the plastic connector. Inside the PN tube forward facing is a square nub that can be retracted by the foot lever. They fit perfectly tight in sync and locked when connected.

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