Thread Number: 35105  /  Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Fantom Technologies Inc (Announcement)
[Down to Last]

Vacuumland's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items
Post# 378330   9/13/2017 at 01:33 by FantomTechGuy (US)        

fantomtechguy's profile picture
Greetings!

If you have been following my thread regrading to the Fantom How-To-Video collection, or if you have looked at my profile, you know I am all about Fantom Vacuums! So to start off this journey, I have remade the Fantom logo to kickstart this massive project! The logo has been re-made to it's natural "Fantom Beauty"!
The photo is for everyone to use to get the word out about this project! I will need as many people as I can get for other huge announcements and projects! So in the mean time, share this to your social media's using the hashtag #Fantomisback and follow the official Fantom Technologies Twitter!

Thanks again and I can't wait for whats ahead!
-FantomTechGuy


  View Full Size



Post# 378331 , Reply# 1   9/13/2017 at 01:36 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Official Twitter

fantomtechguy's profile picture
Here is the Official Twitter -> twitter.com/FantomTechInc...

Post# 378335 , Reply# 2   9/13/2017 at 05:04 by NickTechTalk (New Jersey)        
You ended up getting the name?

Was it easy to get the Fantom name from Shark? Or did it not entirely get finished yet?

Nick


Post# 378349 , Reply# 3   9/13/2017 at 09:48 by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

kirbyvertibles's profile picture
Congratulations!!! I hope it didn't cost you 2 arms and a leg to get the name.

Post# 378355 , Reply# 4   9/13/2017 at 11:08 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Still in progress

fantomtechguy's profile picture
The name is still in progress, but so far it is going well! I need to finalize everything before I can move on with the project. So stay tuned!

Post# 378376 , Reply# 5   9/13/2017 at 14:10 by funnynet1231 (Maine)        
What will you do with the brand?

funnynet1231's profile picture
I know you stated that you will remake the videos, but what else? Will there be products returning?

Post# 378381 , Reply# 6   9/13/2017 at 15:40 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Funnynet1231

fantomtechguy's profile picture
I cannot give any details right now, but I hope too soon.

Post# 378410 , Reply# 7   9/14/2017 at 10:19 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

dysonman1's profile picture
All I can say is congratulations on knowing what you want to do at 18 years of age. At 18, I was in no position to buy a company name from Euro-Pro, nor start my own manufacturing business. I was, at 18, selling Rainbows door to door, and thought I was doing good. Hope everything works out for you.

Post# 378411 , Reply# 8   9/14/2017 at 10:40 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Dysonman1

fantomtechguy's profile picture
Thanks for the great support!

Post# 378413 , Reply# 9   9/14/2017 at 11:40 by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
Good luck

fantomfan's profile picture
Doesn't Salton (Westinghouse) still own the patents for all of the Fantom vacuums? They could have expired, who knows? I think the Thunder with a pre motor filter would be a fantastic commercial vacuum today. The Lightning and Cyclone XT could have a market with some modifications. As for the Fury and Wildcat, I think they have too many flaws to save.

Post# 378427 , Reply# 10   9/14/2017 at 18:01 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

What does fantomlightning think of this?

Post# 378429 , Reply# 11   9/14/2017 at 18:57 by buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        
Carolinaguy1996

buster1849's profile picture
WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH FANTOMLIGHTNING

Post# 378430 , Reply# 12   9/14/2017 at 19:00 by buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        

buster1849's profile picture
I hope the revival of fantom goes well for you fantomtechguy. Did euro-pro/shark finally loose their grubby little hands from fantom? They did nothing with the name for almost 15 years. They took all the vacuums of their website they don't even sell them anymore. They act like fantom never existed.

Post# 378434 , Reply# 13   9/14/2017 at 20:09 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
buster1849

fantomtechguy's profile picture
Well, I cannot give any info on the purchase. But I can tell you all that I am in the process of buying the copyrights! I am currently buying all the names and logos. etc, "cyclone xt" "thunder" "thunder xt". I will make a update soon!

Post# 378473 , Reply# 14   9/15/2017 at 19:32 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

buster1849 STOP SCREAMING IN MY EAR, GET OUT OF MY ROOM!

Post# 378512 , Reply# 15   9/16/2017 at 12:40 by buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        

buster1849's profile picture
I do know that shark would be bankrupt if they could refund someone every time something went wrong with one of their horrid machines

Post# 378528 , Reply# 16   9/16/2017 at 18:40 by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

If you make a good cleaner and it's reasonably priced, I'll buy it! When do you plan to start manufacturing? Will it be made in USA or in China? Are you going to sell in big box stores or go DTD? Will you use the same old designs, or introduce new ones? Will you sell reasonably priced HEPA filters? I have so many questions! :P BTW, you should probably listen to some members on this forum about future designs. Some of us really know what we're talking about!

Good Luck!


Post# 378531 , Reply# 17   9/16/2017 at 20:54 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Updates coming soon

fantomtechguy's profile picture
For everyone having questions, there will be news coming soon! I will host a QNA when the time is right! Stay Tuned!

Post# 378539 , Reply# 18   9/17/2017 at 00:44 by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
I wish you great luck

You either have deep pockets, and a driving ambition, or delusions of grandeur.
Staying tuned.


Post# 378540 , Reply# 19   9/17/2017 at 06:11 by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I think it is GREAT that someone is trying to revive an older vacuum cleaner brand.Give the man some credit!And I wish him success in this endevor

Post# 378545 , Reply# 20   9/17/2017 at 08:32 by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

Someone should try to bring back the Air-Way brand!

Post# 378547 , Reply# 21   9/17/2017 at 11:52 by NickTechTalk (New Jersey)        
FantomTechGuy

If you need any help with anything, such as photoshop, video editing, feel free to send me an email. nicktechtalk@gmail.com



Post# 378549 , Reply# 22   9/17/2017 at 13:17 by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

pr-21's profile picture
Kirkwoods Sweeper Shop, bought the Air-Way name and carry vacuums, not anyway similar to the original with the Air-Way name. They have a website.


PR-21
Bud


Post# 378553 , Reply# 23   9/17/2017 at 15:41 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

Let's bring Sanyo and Panasonic back, with Sharp. The Japanese and Koreans are way superior than the Chinese.

Post# 378650 , Reply# 24   9/18/2017 at 23:36 by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

panasonicvac's profile picture
Panasonic isn't technically "Gone" for good. They sold their manufacturing tools, machines, equipment, and designs to Cleva that is continuing making vacuums for Sears under the Kenmore name. Sharp isn't sure if they would like to make vacuums again but if they did, they wouldn't make them like they used to be.

Post# 378674 , Reply# 25   9/19/2017 at 20:48 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

Given that Sharp used to be big in electronics, with Panasonic and Sanyo. The latter is now owned by Funai, and sold at Wal-Mart.

Post# 378732 , Reply# 26   9/21/2017 at 08:54 by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
I was not trying to be discouraging.

I was reading on facebook that there is now a gofundme set up with a goal of $30,000 to accomplish this project.

Not wanting to be the doubting Thomas here, but add a couple of zeros and move the decimal point to the right. Not only do you have to acquire the name, but there are molds, tooling, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution cost involved. Again I wish you luck but there is going to be a lot more involved than redoing the logos.

I admire the intention and the ambition, but just adding a dose of reality here.


Post# 378735 , Reply# 27   9/21/2017 at 10:12 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

dysonman1's profile picture
The launch of the Prima/Wonder model cost Tacony a couple of million dollars in research and development costs, manufacturing costs, marketing costs, etc. An individual injection mold for a single part can cost MORE than a million dollars.


Post# 378736 , Reply# 28   9/21/2017 at 10:29 by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
Yes Tom,

Exactly my point. Then you have to have someone, somewhere manufacture said parts, and assemble them. That's not counting raw materials.

Unless this is just for a licensing agreement, where there is going to be some manufacturer slap the logo on an existing model; I am going to estimate a minimum of $10 Mil to get up and running.


Post# 378738 , Reply# 29   9/21/2017 at 12:36 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
To clear up some confusion...

fantomtechguy's profile picture
There has been a lot of confusion about the project and I am here to clear everything up. I set up the Gofundme to raise money for the first part of the project. This first part of the project requires the name and loyalties purchasing. Then after that is complete, then the second part of the project will take place, opening up shop.

I am really passionate about this project and I will go through Hell and High water till people can go to the store, and leave with a Fantom Vacuum.


Post# 378739 , Reply# 30   9/21/2017 at 14:03 by Nicktechtalk (New Jersey)        
Question

This just crossed my mind today. If the goal is not met will you still be remastering the how to videos on DVD for the project backers? I think it would be cool to do even if the whole purchase for some reason does not get completed.

Post# 378740 , Reply# 31   9/21/2017 at 14:16 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Yes

fantomtechguy's profile picture
If the goal is not met, everyone who got the perks will still get them. Also check your email. I sent you a message.

Post# 378743 , Reply# 32   9/21/2017 at 16:30 by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
Royalties and Trademarks

Will cost you a kings ransom to begin with. It is now worth more, because this is a public forum, and the powers that be will be able to ascertain there is someone placing value on their defunct name. Legal fees, well the $30K will be a nice retainer. I just caution the re-mastering, or reproducing logos for items that are owned by others. Don't even think about distributing them until you have ownership, or severe legal troubles could come your way.

I know of a man that was called Jeep. He opened a bar in his own name called Jeep's. Diamler-Chrysler sent him a cease and desist letter, followed by legal services to remove and de-image the name from the establishment due to trademark infringement. He attempted to fight them, but it came down to a protected property belonging to a cooperation who did not want "their" name used in another commercial operation. Bar is now named "Jed's".

Again I say--Wishing you well.




This post was last edited 09/21/2017 at 15:47
Post# 378748 , Reply# 33   9/21/2017 at 19:15 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

alexhoovers94's profile picture

You can't start watering dead plants and expect them to grow...


Post# 378752 , Reply# 34   9/21/2017 at 20:04 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Alexhoovers94

fantomtechguy's profile picture
What do you mean?

Post# 378758 , Reply# 35   9/21/2017 at 21:13 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Meaning..

alexhoovers94's profile picture
It is in the past, let it go, you can't stand in the way of progression.

Post# 378760 , Reply# 36   9/21/2017 at 21:33 by FantomTechGuy (US)        

fantomtechguy's profile picture
How can I stay in the way of progression, when I am the progression?

Post# 378761 , Reply# 37   9/21/2017 at 21:34 by buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        

buster1849's profile picture
ALEXHOOVERS94 THAT IS THE MOST IRRELEVANT POST I HAVE EVER SEEN. You don't even live in the us so you can't control it. I am all for fantom coming back. It will be the only good vacuum left on the market. Dyson sucks and the early dysons look like fantom thunder/fury wannabes

Post# 378762 , Reply# 38   9/21/2017 at 21:36 by buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        
Good point FTG

buster1849's profile picture
He is in progress of everything so he isn't in the way. I will certainly go out and buy a fantom. Even if it's 250+ dollars it will be worth it

Post# 378763 , Reply# 39   9/21/2017 at 21:43 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

alexhoovers94's profile picture


"early dysons look like fantom thunder/fury wannabes"

Oh dear...


Post# 378769 , Reply# 40   9/22/2017 at 00:09 by man114 (Buffalo NY)        
Trademarks

If the trademarks are unused and not renewed for a certain period of time they revert to public domain. I don't think Fantom is anywhere near that yet.

Post# 378771 , Reply# 41   9/22/2017 at 05:00 by Rainbowvacfane2 (tracy ca)        
AM SO EXCITED

rainbowvacfane2's profile picture
Am willing to pay 800$ for a brand new thunder and worst case scenario you can hopefully get the rights to at least sell some replacement parts and I was thinking what if they had rebuildable brushrolls like a Sanitaire that would be literally the best vacuum ever

Post# 378791 , Reply# 42   9/22/2017 at 16:55 by DesiredName (Utah)        

desiredname's profile picture
Look at these siblings..... Or cousins...Or Whatever..

  View Full Size
Post# 378794 , Reply# 43   9/22/2017 at 17:40 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
Rainbowvacfane2, DesiredName, buster1849

fantomtechguy's profile picture
Rainbowvacfane2: Thanks for the reply! You will be happy when you can buy one!

DesiredName: WOW! Technicality there twins, but they are related!

buster1849: Thanks for the kind words!


Post# 378826 , Reply# 44   9/23/2017 at 15:00 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Here is a (Genuine) original Style Dyson DC01

alexhoovers94's profile picture


  Photos...       <              >      Photo 1 of 15         View Full Size
Post# 378827 , Reply# 45   9/23/2017 at 15:12 by Buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        
*sighs*

buster1849's profile picture
YEAH. Fantom thunder wannabe

Post# 378828 , Reply# 46   9/23/2017 at 15:15 by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

alexhoovers94's profile picture
Wrong, Dyson was before, WAY before...The Fantom is the carbon copy, if you like...Look which one is still in business. ;)

Post# 378837 , Reply# 47   9/23/2017 at 16:56 by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

bikerray's profile picture
So ???
Will there be a non existent supply of repair parts just like before?
Will it still be the BIC lighter of the vacuum world (oops that may be Sharks claim to fame now)??
Will they be sold through Walmart???



Post# 378838 , Reply# 48   9/23/2017 at 17:51 by FantomTechGuy (US)        
bikerray

fantomtechguy's profile picture
These questions will be answered in a video I will be making soon.




Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

Woops, Time to Check the Bag!!!
Either you need to change your vacuum bag or you forgot to LOG-IN?

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


Vacuumland home
Discuss-o-Vac Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Today's Vacuum of the Day
Photos of our Collections
Vintage Vacuum Cleaner to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy