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Thread Number: 34866
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
Sebo E3 vs D4 |
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| Post# 376259 8/2/2017 at 06:04 (2,457 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
To the people on vac-u-friends I apologize for the repetition.
So i've decided to purchase a new Sebo canister but i'm stuck on which one to get. It's between the E3 graphite and the D4 Onyx. They have the same specs and powerhead so the major differences are Cord length: E3 25ft D4 40ft Bag capacity: E3 .92 Gal D4 1.5 Gal Body weight: E3 11.4 Lbs D4 15.9 Lbs Speed control: E3 slider on handle D4 +/= on hose handle Hose coupling: E3 non swivel D4 320 swivel Sound level E3 62 db D4 63 db < found on another site. The other things that i think about are would the large top mounted pre filter of the D4 help it retain airflow better than the more traditional canister design of the E3? While trying the E3 at an acquaintance's shop i noticed with no tool on the hose end that it created a whistling sound, does the D4 do that as well? Trying to choose between the two is driving me nuts, I feel as though i'm leaning towards the D4 but i worry that perhaps that's the wrong decision. *shrugs* If anyone has experience with these machines and wants to share their knowledge it'd be very much appreciated!
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| Post# 376261 , Reply# 1 8/2/2017 at 06:25 (2,457 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
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| Post# 376287 , Reply# 3 8/2/2017 at 13:54 (2,456 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Hm.
Bud: The shop i stopped had E3 and a used K3 for sale. Baird meter comparisons showed either 5 or 5.5 for the K3 and 6 for the E3 i'm guessing it's due to the tapered hose.
Kyle: Actually none of dealers surrounding the area have D4s they both have the E3 though. I did get the chance to try the E3 it's a nice machine. Not having any hands on experience with the D4 is part of what makes the decision difficult. | ||
| Post# 376317 , Reply# 5 8/2/2017 at 21:14 (2,456 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Post# 376320 , Reply# 6 8/2/2017 at 22:10 (2,456 days old) by n0oxy  (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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another advantage of the d series Another advantage of the D series that I forgot to mention is that they store the full sized appoulstry tool, crevis tool and dusting brush on board. The K series, and I believe the E series only stores two attachments, and you have to hook them together a certain way for them to work. Here is a video about the D4. CLICK HERE TO GO TO n0oxy's LINK | ||
| Post# 376331 , Reply# 7 8/3/2017 at 06:56 (2,456 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Okay
I do have to wonder after seeing a vacuumwizard video what does the D4 pull in terms of waterlift? They had it at a 70 and that seems off considering that the motor is rated for 95, I didn't think to test the E3 but i can ask the shop i was at to take a reading.
Price isn't a problem in this case. I don't have enough area i think to fully use either cord :P at least for now. Yes the E series is the replacement for the K series, the upholstery tool has been changed it now attaches to the hose end or wands instead of having to connect it to the crevice tool. both the crevice tool and upholstery tool store on the back of the machine while the dusting brush is stored on a clip on the wand. | ||
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Post# 376339 , Reply# 8 8/3/2017 at 09:55 (2,455 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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water lift I'm not sure what the water lift is but I'm guessing it's more than 70, 95 sounds about right, the D series will have no problem cleaning what you ask it to, if price is not an issue than go for the D4, nothing but advantages over the E series. Mike | ||
| Post# 376341 , Reply# 9 8/3/2017 at 10:56 (2,455 days old) by Sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 376355 , Reply# 10 8/3/2017 at 19:58 (2,455 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell ) | ||
I would say endless you need a 40' cord The E3 will be amazing .
The bags are big in both but the d4 has a bigger bag. You will be happy with a Sebo no matter witch one you go with :D CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumdevil's LINK | ||
| Post# 376364 , Reply# 11 8/4/2017 at 06:37 (2,455 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Well.... | ||
| Post# 376375 , Reply# 12 8/4/2017 at 10:06 (2,454 days old) by DrSnuggle (Sweden Stockholm) | ||
Size and the quality of Sebo e1 bags
Hi!
I have been reading this post for a while. Sorry for the wall of text :-(. I have a Sebo E1 parquet, but I have the powerbrush ET-1 for a Sebo Felix. The E1 is larger then the K1 and much smaller than the D-series. I think the bag size is K: 3 litre, E: 3.5 Litre and D: 6 litre. Two videos, one from me (E1) and one from ibaisiac (D4). I will link to a music vacuum video I did where you can see the size of it at 2:40 and the problem I have with the bags at 3:39 (no, it is not fake and I find no wrong with my Sebo). It could be that my E1 has a 1200W motor and not a 700W. I do like my E1 though. Not as much as my Felix. The air out of the vacuum is still filtered as it should, albeit not as well as a Miele. What happens is that the dust that is not contained in the bag will be picked up by the other filters and you will have to change them more often. The bags and the filters are not expensive though. In the ibaisiac video he compares the size of the D4 with a Miele S8 (C3) at about 27 min. In some video on a D4 he mentions that he sometimes find dust in the container for his D4:s. But I don't remember which video. This I think is a great review. My video E1: Rogers great review of the D4: This post was last edited 08/04/2017 at 14:45 | ||
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Post# 376417 , Reply# 13 8/4/2017 at 22:47 (2,454 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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great videos Enjoyed the video comparing the Miele and Sebo machines, Jacub, your video was good as well, you can actually get a Miele with most of the same features around the same price as the Sebo, I think Miele's model is the cona. Mike | ||
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Post# 376421 , Reply# 15 8/5/2017 at 01:58 (2,454 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Forgot to mention in my first entry-do LOVE the 40' cord on the Sebo D I live in an older place where outlets aren't as common as in newer homes.And the D's cordwinder handles that long cord really well-and for its power the Sebo D is quiet.The powernozzle makes more noise than the tank unit. | ||
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Post# 376425 , Reply# 16 8/5/2017 at 07:55 (2,454 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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sebo adapter Tolivac, here is a link to the adapter you are looking for, I have one of these and it works very well. Sebo's hose end is interesting, it's not quite the same as Miele's, it's a bit larger but it's still smaller than the commercial size of 1 1/2 size. With this adapter you should be able to use the Sebo with the volt, think I may try that myself. Mike CLICK HERE TO GO TO n0oxy's LINK | ||
| Post# 376433 , Reply# 17 8/5/2017 at 11:33 (2,453 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Videos
Alex, I've watched your E3 vs Miele video, thank you for posting it it should bring awareness to this newer product.
Jakob, I haven't seen your E1 video before now, I'm curious though did you get that much dust leakage after a single use? I have seen ibaisaic's video about his D4. It looks like there's a lot of love for the D4 here that's probably the way I'll end up going, it'll only cost me 100 more than the E3 anyhow. I do like the E3's slider switches better than the D4's +/- switch since it's easier to identify your speed but I can live with it. | ||
| Post# 376434 , Reply# 18 8/5/2017 at 12:19 (2,453 days old) by DrSnuggle (Sweden Stockholm) | ||
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Single use | ||
| Post# 376446 , Reply# 20 8/5/2017 at 18:53 (2,453 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Oh wow
Jakob: I'm concerned about that much dust leakage after a single, especially with a synthetic bag like they use. It makes me wonder have any users of the D4 experienced this problem regularly? I know in his video Ibaisaic mentioned some dust leakage but does it occur all the time?
Mike: Well i'm getting it from a shop i'm friendly with so....ya know. | ||
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Post# 376448 , Reply# 21 8/5/2017 at 19:42 (2,453 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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dust leaking I have not seen this with the D1, it filters very well. Mike | ||
| Post# 376455 , Reply# 22 8/5/2017 at 20:38 (2,453 days old) by cuffs054 (monticello, ga) | ||
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Far be it for me to buy on looks, BUT the D4 is a sexy looking machine. | ||
| Post# 376636 , Reply# 23 8/10/2017 at 13:56 (2,448 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Well. | ||
| Post# 376642 , Reply# 24 8/10/2017 at 20:45 (2,448 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Post# 376658 , Reply# 25 8/11/2017 at 11:04 (2,447 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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great choice! Haven't heard of the Onyx, just the D4 premium, but it sounds like it's basically the same machine, I think you will really like it. Mike | ||
| Post# 376660 , Reply# 26 8/11/2017 at 11:30 (2,447 days old) by Sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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