Thread Number: 34752  /  Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Significance of 50 Foot Cord and Super Wide Nozzle Beyond Commercial Use?
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Post# 375253   7/12/2017 at 20:36 (345 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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While I understand the significance in the commercial market of both the 50-foot-long power cord and the super-wide (at least 16") nozzle in janitorial vacuums, I am wondering if at least one of these features are also a boon to some household owners, along with the shake-out cloth bag?


How I sum it up: Other than on Kirbys since the Classic 1CR and some 1970s-early '90s Eureka uprights, I don't believe the super-wide nozzles were all that popular with most non-commercial users, but I think the 50-foot cord is the more likely bane-than-boon of the two, since you have to drag it around with you from outlet to outlet.


And also, the shake-out bag: I am afraid most people don't want to get started on that.


Thus I ask: what is your point of view about these typically janitorial vacuum cleaner features?



Post# 375254 , Reply# 1   7/12/2017 at 21:07 (345 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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I personally wouldn't have use for such a machine in my little house.

Post# 375270 , Reply# 2   7/13/2017 at 01:24 (344 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        

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I have to say my Compact Electra C9 has a 10 foot hose, a 10 inch nozzle and at least 30 foot cord and i love it .I dont have to search for a plug , i can keep on cleaning long reach is the reason i love it, long cord long hose long reach and power full .just love it commercial machine style nozzle are welcome in my home large living room and kitchen and big bedroom so makes cleaning a breeze.

Post# 375275 , Reply# 3   7/13/2017 at 09:30 (344 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Personally I prefer the wider nozzle, I cant explain why I just do, But they take some planning to use in a normal house.

The long cable however is a must on any vacuum for me. I like to be able to plug in once and just vacuum away

Post# 375276 , Reply# 4   7/13/2017 at 10:12 (344 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Wider nozzle is the only thing that would be nice for me at home.
50 heavy cord= a pain.
shake out bag= hell no.

Post# 375280 , Reply# 5   7/13/2017 at 10:22 (344 days old) by Wyaple (Pickerington, OH)        
Smaller head machines take forever

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For me to clean 3000 square feet of flooring. My Kirby Heritage II Legend flies through large areas with its 15" nozzle. Any nozzle less than 14" wide seems like a toy machine to me.

I think cord lengths should be at least 40 feet. I have a G6 with the 50 foot cord and I only plug in once per floor.


Post# 375282 , Reply# 6   7/13/2017 at 10:34 (344 days old) by bearwise (Bakersfield, CA)        

While a longer cord is appealing, dragging it around corners and marking up walls that have flat paint that can't be cleaned only repainted is most definitely not.
I'm fine with my Kirby Ultimate G Diamond's 30ft light grey cord.
As for shake out bags...not only no, but hell no.
I probably would not do well with a wider nozzle either. I bang into furniture enough as it is with the one I have.

Post# 375287 , Reply# 7   7/13/2017 at 11:59 (344 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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The shakeout bag system on the earlier Kirby's (pre G3) is not really that much pain to use. These Kirby shakeout systems use an Emptor where most of the heavier dirt and small objects collect.


Shaking the bag causes all of the lighter dust, dirt and pet hair to fall down into the emptor.


One merely needs to place the vacuum on some opened up newspaper pages and open the trap door on the bottom of the emptor and all the dirt falls out onto the newspaper. You then just fold up the corners of the newspaper and roll it into a ball and toss it into the trash. Not that hard to do and practically mess free.


These early Kirby's were actually the very first Bagless vacuum cleaners produced and there are no messy filters to clean in order to maintain airflow.



Post# 375288 , Reply# 8   7/13/2017 at 12:59 (344 days old) by toddk13 (Milwaukee, WI)        
Commerical applications

Windsor VSP14 14" vacuums have a 40' cord. Advance Spectrum 15D has a 15" path and 50' cord. In a 300,000 sq ft college, an extra 10' of cord is a godsend. Wider nozzles are nice, but can get in the way if there are a lot of tight spots / cubicles.

Post# 375301 , Reply# 9   7/13/2017 at 18:36 (344 days old) by Gman (Parker, CO)        
It Depends....

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While tough to use in smaller rooms, I bought a new Sanitaire for our rec room. As much as I like to vacuum this is just too much space and time consuming for a "normal" vacuum.

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Post# 375359 , Reply# 10   7/14/2017 at 09:22 (343 days old) by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

I think the longer power cord would be better than a power nozzle with a few more inches in length. That's why I like the Orecks. They have a pretty long power cord as it is and the cord wraps on the uprights will usually accommodate another 10 - 15 foot extension cord too. Their standard size power nozzle is fine for my small home. It's so light, I can vacuum it in no time.

Post# 375397 , Reply# 11   7/15/2017 at 02:37 (342 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I like the 50 ft cords-the only wide nozzle commerc ial vacuum I like are the wide nozzle Royals.Dump bags--forget it unless you use it to pick up spent Host cleaner or vacuuming brand new carpets.I forget the paper gag-just dump the bag into the trash or a dumpster.

Post# 375493 , Reply# 12   7/17/2017 at 14:57 (340 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
over hear in the Uk

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back in the early 60s .our house only had 2 sockets [quite normal over hear back then] one in the kitchen and one in the lounge .Consequently mums Hoover Senior had a lengthy cord fitted so long the machine would go everywhere down stairs from the kitchen socket and by plugging into the lounge socket it was also able to venture upstairs to all three bedrooms and also outside to clean the car


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