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Post# 372270   5/17/2017 at 15:11 by Shrink1982 (Indianapolis)        

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If you could request a vacuum with all the features and design elements from various vacuums, what would you include?

For me, there always seems to be a trade off. No one vacuum has it all. For example, I really like SEBO's simplicity of use and the ability to pull the brush roll out in seconds not to mention the excellent build quality. I like vacuums, both uprights and canisters, that have a good swivel to them. I like the ability to get into tight spaces. I like the airflow of a dirty fan cleaner but the tool convenience of a clean air machine. Excellent agitation is necessary. Excellent filtration is a must. While not a bagless fan, I do like the Shark with the removable canister. It really makes getting under furniture a breeze. I want something that is light but built well. I want a light on the nozzle. I like the ability to mechanically change the suction versus one of those little manual sliders that opens and closes. I like the convenience of an upright but the versatility of a canister. I really like Kirby's tech drive and pedal system for raising and lowering the height of the nozzle. I think either a direct drive or toothed belt is a must. I like the feature a few canisters have that allows you to add a bag saver. I think this is useful if you are picking up something that isn't dirt of dust such as cereal, candy, or styrofoam that really can be tossed out without taking up room in the bag and exposing you to allergens. I like Shark's hard floor attachment that has the microfiber pad; it really is the first I have used that doesn't snow-plow larger items. Good tools and accessories are a must including horse hair bristles. The machine has to be made to last, similar to Sebo build quality. It needs to be a sealed system. When considering canisters, I think a 360 swivel hose on both ends is a must. My Sebo D4 Premium doesn't rotate 360 at the cleaner end and the hose tangles easily.

I know this is too many features for one cleaner but it is the reason it makes it so difficult for me to choose a favorite vacuum. At the very least, I would like to see a company that is proud of what they produce and I shouldn't have to spend over 1k to get an item from such a company. And for those companies that produce such expensive vacuums that claim to last 20+ years, provide me with a warranty to match that statement. If you believe in your product, provide me with a warranty that shows that. Five year warranties are unbelievable on machines that are so expensive. If it is such a well made durable machine, why not provide a warranty to match its expected life span? Maybe I should get all wood floors and call it a day :)





Post# 372310 , Reply# 1   5/18/2017 at 09:48 by dysonman1 (Rolla, Missouri)        

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The warranty could be for a million years.

It makes no difference.

It's not an insurance policy and it doesn't cover wear and tear.

The buying public has no idea what a warranty even really is. That's why the argue with tire stores about a nail in their 'new' tires that are 'under warranty'.

Warranties guarantee that, for a certain period of time, the machine will have no manufacturing defects. That's completely different than how consumers see warranties, mostly because consumers don't read their warranty, and few understand the words they're reading exactly.

The warranty is there to protect people from something that fails because it was made wrong. A switch, for example, that fails after two months of use.

Thankfully, good vacuums that require repairs are far more likely to require them because of what someone DID TO THE VACUUM, rather than manufacturing defects.



Post# 372880 , Reply# 2   5/29/2017 at 18:05 by Tekjunkie28 (Roanoke Va)        

Well the rainbow brushless motors are probably the best for longevity based on my experience with brushless DC motors. That's also partly the reason they are expensive, all the electronic brain in them. I used to be a PC tech and I NEVER trust electronics. Also rainbow has done a good job to protect the electronics from dust but idk about heat. It seems the brushless motor doesn't run hot.

I would like a vacuum like the rainbow or Kirby as they are really a decent Whole Home Cleaning System.

I feel like Hepa filters are overkill sometimes. I never used a vac with them in it until 10 years ago and that was a dyson. I miss the old sounds of the units. My grandma had a kenmore canister. It was wood grain on top and I believe the bottom was that olive green color. She never used the PN and I assume it was broke although it was in the closet. She also had a Kirby but I forget which one. When I was a teenager I did most of the vacuuming around the house and I had that blue cloth bag and blue base with the big square gray power button. Nice looking little vac but it had absolutely no power and the tools were more then useless but it was lightweight. Then my mom bought me a black dirt devil hard body upright. It was awesome but not built for longevity. It had swivel rear casters and nothing but. A white foam exhaust filter.

I'd say I want a water vac with 110+" water column pull with a oversized hepa filter for minimal restriction. I want something that's quick like the rainbow but powerful and pretty like a Kirby. I have a fetish with the outer cloth bag vacs for some reason. I'd also say that it needs mop shampooer, mini PN, window squeegee and other stuff. I'd like to see a floor tool with a swivel brush or the brush can flip. I have seen brushes with shorter brushes on the fron or back but I was one that I can flip around.






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