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Post# 371369   4/25/2017 at 17:36 by compactelectra (Rancho Mirage, CA - New home of the Obamas)        

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Downsizing again. Check out my listing for a like-new 1965 Canadian Electrolux Model 88 with all accessories.



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Post# 371382 , Reply# 1   4/25/2017 at 23:03 by compactc9guy (Bathurst New Brunswick Canada )        
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oh wow perfect mint condition my lux 86 is in need of repair this one looks new hummmm

Post# 371390 , Reply# 2   4/26/2017 at 07:15 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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As much as I am proud to see a beautiful Canadian vacuum created right here on the island of Montréal, I always wondered about the placement of the handle on the cleaner. It seems oddly placed considering the heavier part of the cylinder is toward the back where the motor is located. It would seem that your fingers would get squished at the top end of the handle as the back of the vacuum hangs down lower than the front when carrying. Might have been better to place the handle right over the heavier motor end, no?

Never actually picked one up. Any thoughts by those who have actually used one?


Post# 371392 , Reply# 3   4/26/2017 at 07:39 by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
That handle

IS odd, but that is its only fault, it has MUCH more power than a model G and is quieter, I have a green one and a red one without automatic control, I'm going to watch this, might go higher than what I could spend...

Post# 371397 , Reply# 4   4/26/2017 at 10:30 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I've heard this before about the motor being stronger than a G (early G or later G?)......who made the motors?

 

Kevin


Post# 371420 , Reply# 5   4/26/2017 at 16:52 by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
As far as

I know, they made them , I don't think they were farmed out.

Post# 371429 , Reply# 6   4/26/2017 at 18:58 by electrolux137 (Los Angeles, California)        

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Canadian Electroluxes up through the Model Z-89 are all much quieter-running than their American counterparts because they have exhaust filters in the rear.  And they are all significantly more powerful. Stan Kann used to marvel over the suction power of his Z-30.

Here's my lovely Z-89.

The link below will take you to a discussion in 2008 about Canadian Electroluxes.


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Post# 371434 , Reply# 7   4/26/2017 at 19:24 by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I use my Z89 every day to clean up the litter in front of the cat boxes and vacuum the carpet in the laundry room. I've never had an issue with the position of the carrying handle. Yes, the motor end does carry lower but it doesn't bother me.

Post# 371441 , Reply# 8   4/26/2017 at 22:37 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

OK...so why are they more powerful if Elux USA made the motor? Is there a flow design difference in the canister itself? I don't see a visible link to the 2008 discussion.

 

Kevin


Post# 371447 , Reply# 9   4/27/2017 at 01:25 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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Kevin, the reason why the motor in the Electrolux 80 Series canisters is more powerful is because it was made by Electrolux Canada, at the plant in Montreal, Quebec. It was NOT American owned or made by that point. The only things the 80 Series shared with it's American counterpart, the Automatic G, was the telescopic electric wand & the first PN1 powerhead.

In fact, Electrolux Canada was ALWAYS different than Electrolux USA. We never used combo tools (unless it was a economy model) until the 1980's, we always got full, separate tools. The plastic AP Series canisters, starting with the AP100, was introduced in 1973, & over time with styling & other minor changes, evolved into the 2100 / Aerus Classic, while America was still selling metal canisters.

It wasn't till the mid 1980's, I think around 1986 or 1987, that both divisions merged together & things changed. And that's when the differences between the Canadian & American models ended for the most part. I think that one thing that made Electrolux special was that each country & each division did their own research & development, they determined what their consumers wanted & catered directly to them. That's the reason for the differences between American & Canadian models....Canadians wanted a lighter machine, hence the plastic model here. While each division shared ideas & shared parts & components worldwide, each division kept innovating to serve their country's customers & make sure their needs were met with products that worked for them. Such a shame that Joe Urso has taken a once great company & destroyed it.

Rob


Post# 371456 , Reply# 10   4/27/2017 at 07:24 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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When Canada and the USA signed the Free Trade Agreement in the mid 1980's (Reagan and Mulroney), Canada lost a lot of manufacturing jobs as it was cheaper to just import similar American products rather than keep Canadian plants open. The market in Canada was much smaller due to the much smaller population and so it was better for the corporate bottom line to import from the US.

Before that agreement, all vac-makers (Electrolux, Eureka, Hoover, GE, etc) had factories or subsidiaries north of the border making our own vacs under Canadian regulations and labour laws - some with major differences to the US versions. Eureka was in Kitchener, Hoover was in Hamilton, Electrolux was in Montreal and Canadian General Electric (CGE) was in Brockville (I think).


Post# 371468 , Reply# 11   4/27/2017 at 12:58 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Fascinating stuff!

 

Kind of incredible to me that the Canadian plant motors had the edge over the Greenwich plant motors. I guess there was no competition or incentive for the brag on who had the best motors.

 

Thanks, Rob & Brian for that brief tutorial on Canadian Electrolux history!

 

Kevin


Post# 371482 , Reply# 12   4/27/2017 at 18:35 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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You're welcome Kevin!

I used to see a lot of Electrolux canisters in our suburban neighbourhood in Montreal when growing up here in the 1960's. They were definitely more expensive than the vacs everybody was buying in department stores. In the warm summer weather, you'd often see guys vacuuming their car interiors with these whisper quiet red or green Luxes - often before giving the cars a wash on a Saturday afternoon.


Post# 371487 , Reply# 13   4/27/2017 at 21:13 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@Kevin

Lux was indeed separate. One reason why the U.S. branch didn't respond to the Canadian motors was because they faced no competition from them and suffered no sanction for it. Lux Canada sold in Canada, and U.S. Lux sold in the States and they did not cross borders.

I actually wish Lux International and Aerus would remerge and kick the idiot (Urso) to the curb.


Post# 371511 , Reply# 14   4/28/2017 at 11:20 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Did....

the Elux door-to-door salesmen have the same kinda relationship with their customers as here in the States? By that I mean many of us growing up remember how loyal our families were to the Elux salesman who would come by periodically and fix or update the vacuums he sold. It wasn't uncommon to see the same salesman over the yrs until he retired out. 

 

My mother-in-law was Eeeeeeelectrolux all the way and that's how I got started...she gave us an old G set she had. She had a Super J set at the time.  Then one day when she was visiting us on the farm I came inside for lunch and was ambushed by the the Eeeeeeelectrolux salesperson (lady). Wound up buying a Diamond J set and then we moved to MO so we never had the chance to set up a relationship with the salesperson.

 

My mother-in-law had 40 yrs with Eeeeeeelectrolux at that point. Her salesman retired and so she kept the Super J (still going strong with my ex as she takes care of the estate).  My ex kept on with Elux for her house.......I think we figured she had a Guardian variant with the last purchase, had some trouble with it, took it to a shop up in Spokane and he gave her a nice condition Silverado to use. She liked it better and so she kept it. I told her she needs some kinda resolve with the guy in Spokane because price wise, she's in arrears.....the Guardian variant was almost new.

 

Kevin

 

 




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Post# 371512 , Reply# 15   4/28/2017 at 12:23 by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
@Kevin

I don't know for certain that Lux Canada operated the same way. I do know all Lux sales were via door-to-door demonstration. Axel Wenner-Gren started out showing the machines in the home. I imagine that Lux Canada did pretty much the same.

Post# 371515 , Reply# 16   4/28/2017 at 13:14 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Christopher....

hopefully, our friends across the border will chime in on how Elux sales worked in Canada and if indeed they were loyal to the door-to-door salesman.

 

Kevin


Post# 371516 , Reply# 17   4/28/2017 at 13:27 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I used to see a lot of Electrolux canisters in our suburban neighbourhood in Montreal when growing up here in the 1960's. They were definitely more expensive than the vacs everybody was buying in department stores. In the warm summer weather, you'd often see guys vacuuming their car interiors with these whisper quiet red or green Luxes - often before giving the cars a wash on a Saturday afternoon.

 

I feel almost guilty in saying this...but...I used to drag a G or a Diamond J out to vacuum the car/truck. I have shop vacs......so I don't know why I persisted in that other than canister vacs are more stable and predictable in what they will do. Plus, I go about deaf(er) every time I have a long shop vac session.  I even have two hand Royals; one 120 volt and the other 12 volt. They work fine until some small rock grenades the impeller.

 

Anyway, there's usually some drama with the shop vacs or the hand vacs.....but I don't take the G outside anymore out of respect/value..lol.

 

Kevin


Post# 371519 , Reply# 18   4/28/2017 at 15:25 by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I don't seem to remember seeing or hearing about well-known Electrolux sales people in our neighbourhood. What I do remember are advertising postcards that we received in the mail giving you a phone number to call if you wanted an in-home demonstration. And there were a handful of Elux-only vac shops on shopping strips not to far away closer to downtown Montreal. Each of these had a nice window display showing the latest models, including the Canadian rug shampooers as well.

Don't forget: Montreal winters can be pretty harsh and so from December to April, it would not be easy for a salesman to go door-to-door trying to make a sale.


Post# 371559 , Reply# 19   4/29/2017 at 17:02 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        
Brian...

you're right....I never thought of that! Long, severe winters would have been an extra burden on the typical door-to-door salesman. Maybe it was a combination of stores, postcards and some door-to-door in reasonable weather.

 

Kevin


Post# 371583 , Reply# 20   4/30/2017 at 16:59 by Compactelectra (Rancho Mirage, CA - New home of the Obamas)        
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When I obtained this machine, Interesting Provenanace.

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Post# 371584 , Reply# 21   4/30/2017 at 17:21 by petek (Ontario)        

$149 in 1965 wasn't cheap.. I see he bought it on the monthly installment plan $10 and got a $25 trade in allowance.

One of our neighbors dad was a part-time Elux salesman back then (worked fulltime at Dow) and they had the green model 89. I don't know how well he did because it wasn't long and he was later selling Amway in the evenings.

What I most love about the 88 & 89 is how hushed they are. You can vacuum away and still carry on a normal conversation without raising your voice or shouting.


Post# 374064 , Reply# 22   6/16/2017 at 23:43 by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

I have a friend looking at an 86 in Canada....is it possible to put that ring & hose on so that you could run a Sidekick? I did that to my G yrs ago....sure cleaned things up from that external power cord to the PN.

Kevin





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