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Post# 371109   4/20/2017 at 07:37 (397 days old) by Thevacuumstore (Stamford)        

We have a vintage vac here and are struggling to identify it

Be grateful for any ideas

See pics below..

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Post# 371120 , Reply# 1   4/20/2017 at 09:39 (397 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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I might be very wrong, but it looks like an old Progress, which was imported into America from Germany.

Post# 371132 , Reply# 2   4/20/2017 at 11:25 (397 days old) by Caligula (Benton, Pa)        
Could be the Hatch and Goeser.

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As far as we know the Hatch and Goeser was the first electric tank vacuum cleaner and dates back to about 1910. The only difference is that the Hatch and Goeser had a long pole handle and detachable floor nozzle the could be replaced with a hose as shown here.

Luckily Hatch and Goeser didn't renew their patent or Electrolux would have had a run for it's money.

Post# 371134 , Reply# 3   4/20/2017 at 12:25 (397 days old) by Caligula (Benton, Pa)        
Info on the Hatch and Goeser.

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The Hatch and Goeser was the first electric tank style vacuum cleaner and like the one pictured above had huge wheels but there was a swivel caster in back. As far as I know the upright handle was not detachable as was the floor nozzle. Also aside from the hose, I have no idea of the wands and tools though I'm sure they were part of it. Basically it looked like the Electrolux model VII (11) but with monster wheels.

As to the Hatch and Goeser, here's the info I have. It was invented in 1909 by Tracy Barbour Hatch and Edwin Walter Goeser, both of Los Angeles, California and the date filed was September 27, 1909 with the patent granted on January 10, 1910.

Vacuum cleaners were in their infancy back then, motors were huge and a machine of this nature would be very expensive. I've only seen one and that was at the Hoover Historical Center in Ohio, back in 1980. Somewhere in my files I have a picture and when I find it will post it.

I'm guessing that it didn't sell well, or that it was overtaken with the flood of other vacuum cleaners a few years later, or perhaps was bested by the early Hoovers like the model O. At any rate the inventors didn't run with it, or didn't contest other inventors like Axle L. Wenner-Gren who started Electrolux.

Still yours looks very close to the Hatch and Goeser. If there are patent dates on the underside of the machine this will help me zero in on the needed data. Also name of manufacturer and so on. The fact that it has the handle strap on top indicates that there was no pole handle and again could rule out the Hatch and Goeser.

I'm grasping at straws here, but maybe, just maybe they are one and the same.

Post# 371181 , Reply# 4   4/21/2017 at 03:46 (397 days old) by Thevacuumstore (Stamford)        

Thank you for your responses guys

The pics show the manufacturer's plate and the swivel castor on the underside

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Post# 371203 , Reply# 5   4/21/2017 at 12:43 (396 days old) by dysonman1 (undisclosed)        

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I see that it wasn't imported into America, but brought here by someone. The voltage is for Europe. Maybe one of our European VacuumLand members will recognize it?

Post# 371216 , Reply# 6   4/21/2017 at 16:55 (396 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)        

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Or if you do a search on the British Patent number that might provide a clue as to what brand.

Post# 371256 , Reply# 7   4/22/2017 at 21:29 (395 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI)        
Brithish Patent Office, Good luck with that!

I just spent the better part of an hour and the closest thing to being able to look up the patent was finding one with the same number that corresponded to a design of a corrugated cardboard box for transporting fragile items like vacuum tubes applied for in 1931.

For the "fruits" of my research in the link below. If you find boxes interesting!(?)


Post# 371263 , Reply# 8   4/23/2017 at 02:19 (395 days old) by midcenturyfan (Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England)        

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I have got a similar machine stored away somewhere, and I will see whether I can dig it out. I seem to remember that it is labelled as a Trojan. I believe that I have seen them with other names.


Post# 371333 , Reply# 9   4/24/2017 at 23:42 (393 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI)        

Three days later and I notice that I spelled British wrong on the "subject drift" line. Sorry!

Post# 371384 , Reply# 10   4/26/2017 at 03:50 (392 days old) by Hoovermatic (UK)        

That's a Canon Suction Cleaner. There is a Shires Book called "Early Electrical Appliances" and its featured in there,

Post# 371462 , Reply# 11   4/27/2017 at 09:20 (390 days old) by thevacuumstore (Stamford)        

Thanks Hoovermatic - any chance of posting the page for me?

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