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Post# 370910   4/17/2017 at 22:04 (2,558 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Check out this ad for LG, is it just me, or does it leave you wanting to by a corded vacuum, just based on the advert? Rather than the new range of cordless cleaners they are offering?

Perhaps this is the message LG want to put accross, so people will continue to buy corded...Since the market for EVERYTHING these days is to get rid of cords.






Post# 370918 , Reply# 1   4/17/2017 at 23:39 (2,558 days old) by martin187 (Illinois)        

I never thought I'd be sitting here feeling bad for a vacuum cleaner but here we are.

Post# 370924 , Reply# 2   4/18/2017 at 00:48 (2,558 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

So that is what the singer in the music background was moaning about---"Just Stay With Me!"I'll stick with my Simplicity Cordless "Freedom" vacuum over these choices.

Post# 370933 , Reply# 3   4/18/2017 at 09:02 (2,557 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Samsung

has an infomercial now for it's new robot vac. Not that I would try one, but it's a convincing sales pitch, and it looks like it cleans well on TV.
For my weekly deep cleaning, I'm not giving up my 35 ft. hose, power heads, or turbo brush for anything. Second hose in garage for vehicles also that connects directly to the power unit.
Two stage 11 amp lamb bypass motor is still strong after 20 years too. No bags either. Empty the tank every month or so into an outdoor trash can and brush the polyester filter clean.
Old vacs were the best. My step daughter is on her second Shark in three years.
I told her to buy a Kirby, Filter Queen, or Rainbow and it would last a generation, if not two. Just a lot of cash to lay out at once.


Post# 370939 , Reply# 4   4/18/2017 at 12:17 (2,557 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Did anyone else want to take that old upright home and give it a nice clean warm closet?

Post# 370969 , Reply# 5   4/18/2017 at 18:40 (2,557 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller)        

My key take-away: Cordless vacuums are Evil and heartless.

Post# 370971 , Reply# 6   4/18/2017 at 19:53 (2,557 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA)        

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My take-away... cordless vacuums are big bullies!  RUDE!


Post# 370974 , Reply# 7   4/18/2017 at 20:06 (2,557 days old) by funnynet1231 (Maine)        
Man, That Vacuum Just Wanted To Feel Useful.

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Leaving that vacuum out in the rain was a bit mean. And taking the popcorn out from under him. I only have one cordless vacuum and I don't like using it because of the battery life. I can always just find another outlet.

Post# 371011 , Reply# 8   4/19/2017 at 00:03 (2,557 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
cordless vacuums

I have no interest in getting a cordless vacuum, they are not as powerful and you always have to watch the battery. I would rather switch outlets and have something much more powerful. Many think the simplicity freedom cordless cleans well, I would agree, the volt power nozzle is a modified version of it, and the new cordless Henry sounds decent. I do have a Neato Robotics vacuum robot, for a battery powered vacuum, it's quite powerful, batteries will last about 90 minutes in it, still, think I will stick with corded vacuums.
Mike


Post# 371028 , Reply# 9   4/19/2017 at 09:08 (2,556 days old) by fantomfan57 (Central Texas)        
My take on Cordless is:

When choosing a cordless consider: battery powered device use time/life, battery life and just how expensive the replacement battery costs.

I noticed a great deal of WORX trimmers showed up at thrift stores when the buyer checked out the cost of a new battery.

I have no first hand knowledge of the practicality of cordless vacuum cleaners.


Post# 371151 , Reply# 10   4/20/2017 at 16:23 (2,555 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I love cordless vacuums, again my take on that is a busy household were normal daily vacuuming is a chore that needs to be done is as little time as possible.

Currently cordless vacuums in my part of the world are limited to dyson and bosch. I have a dc62 animal pro and the v6 total clean.
On weekends I do the vacuum collector thing but on week days I am a Dad to two teenage boys, a husband to a brilliant hard working wife and a business owner so time is limited. Cordless make so much sense to me. Most of my current power tools are cordless, my garden equipment is all petrol .

Remember when cordless drills were coming onto the market , everyone said aah they will never replace normal drills. Go down to your local hardware store, Yes you still get corded drills, one or two of each brand. Everything else is cordless. If you told me 10 years ago I would be using a battery power rotary hammer drill to drill into my concrete walls I would have laughed at you. Now I am just glad the extension lead hardly leaves its storage space.
e coming,
Cordless vacuums are coming and soon will dominate the market place, Why ? because its what your avarage vacuum owner wants


Post# 371160 , Reply# 11   4/20/2017 at 19:52 (2,555 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Took the words out of my mouth, gareth

Post# 371174 , Reply# 12   4/20/2017 at 23:39 (2,555 days old) by rvarley (illinois)        

Corldless vacs are OK but they still aren't ready to replace corded. As @gsheen states above, they can be nice for the quick cleanups - I use a Dyson V8 for this. But it isn't nearly as powerful as a good corded vac and the run time would not be long enough for a big house. Finally, a lot of people like a light weight vacuum and there's no getting around the fact that batteries add weight and lots of it. I find my Riccar Freedom with 40 cord to be a good combination of long cord, high power and light weight.

That video could be easily remade to show all the shortcomings of the battery. When Mr. Corded vac runs out of cord, it can easily be moved to another outlet. Unless the battery powered hot shot has a replacement battery and one that is easily replaceable a-la cordless drill, it's 'game over' for the cordless when the battery dies.

All that cordless bashing aside, still do like the convenience of the Dyson V8 cordless, inferior cleaning ability and limited run time aside. Increase runtime and cleaning power while keeping weight down and cordless starts looking a pretty good as a replacement for corded.


Post# 371176 , Reply# 13   4/20/2017 at 23:55 (2,555 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Remember when cordless drills were coming onto the market , everyone said aah they will never replace normal drills. Go down to your local hardware store, Yes you still get corded drills, one or two of each brand. Everything else is cordless. If you told me 10 years ago I would be using a battery power rotary hammer drill to drill into my concrete walls I would have laughed at you. Now I am just glad the extension lead hardly leaves its storage space.
e coming,

 

Yeah, I remember the early cordless...I paid a fortune for them and took them back...they were puny. Then the RC motors that power them got better and better along with the clutches/transmissions. Still though in my work if I want to get serious about using a drill with ultimate torque and not stopping to change batteries, I use corded. The guys here that work on high power lines all have 32 volt cordless tools. They are monsters (the tools) and entry prices have kept me away. I also see them in for service a lot at the local lumber yard. No doubt those guys are rough on them. When you're working on mains and restoring power after storm outages, you're not thinking about how best to treat your power tools.

 

Kevin


Post# 371211 , Reply# 14   4/21/2017 at 14:30 (2,554 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

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I hate cordless vacs. The chargers always break or get lost, and the battery power instantly starts to decline. The cordless machines must be weaker too. Would probably never outsuck my Electrolux Model 30, which is CORDED.

Post# 371212 , Reply# 15   4/21/2017 at 14:59 (2,554 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The current crop of cordless vacuums like the dyson do not decline as you use them, New battery's allow maximum power until they need charge. If thats what you think about cordless vacuums I suggest you get your hands on the current crop of cordless machines, Their is no comparison to the old machines

Post# 371219 , Reply# 16   4/21/2017 at 17:06 (2,554 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Cordless drills??!?

Actually I really can't complain too much there. I use a cordless Black-and-Decker on the bench. It's decent but has no guts!

When I want to DRILL, give me my vintage Sunbeam Drillmaster! This is one my Great-Great-Uncle Joe "Borrowed" when he was the head of the Sunbeam factory back in the day. This thing is unstoppable!

He was Known for engraving his name on a tool then saying it was taken from his Toolbox at work...he had about 25+ toolboxes full that I'm still sorting through. He was one position under VP of Sunbeam in those days.


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Post# 371236 , Reply# 17   4/22/2017 at 06:58 (2,553 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
One of the batteries on my

Dewalt 18 volt cordless drill is already caput. Since I don't use it every day like a contractor does, once the second dies, I will not replace them. It costs more than the drill.
For my needs, corded is the way to go.
I don't deduct any tools on my taxes as a business expense.


Post# 371272 , Reply# 18   4/23/2017 at 12:49 (2,552 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Mike why don't you just get the battery's repacked. Its much much cheaper than buying new ones.

Post# 371277 , Reply# 19   4/23/2017 at 18:22 (2,552 days old) by Real1shep (Walla Walla, WA)        

Well, for a very long time 18 volt Lithium-ion batteries were $100ea to replace. The idea with Makita, Dewalt and the rest was that once the batteries failed, the end user would see how much the batteries were and just go buy a whole new drill set. Wastefully stupid with no respect to the end user of environ. Eventually, 'aftermarket' Lithium-ion batteries came out at about $50ea. They work OK, but the plastic they use for the battery case expands like crazy when heated and they are very hard to release from your drill. All kinds of snake oil people who say they can renew your old batteries...doesn't work for pro use.

 

And then the box stores aren't doing you any favors either. In almost all the companies there is a pro line....that's what I buy. But when I go into somewhere like HD they have rechargeable drills that look very similar to mine, but they're are not at all the same quality (or price). They want you to 'feel' you're getting a pro drill for a great price, even though you're are not.

 

Kevin


Post# 371287 , Reply# 20   4/24/2017 at 00:25 (2,552 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

18V DeWalt batteries--Use their new 20V Lithium ones-you can get adaptors to fit the new 20V batteries to the older 18V machine-I did this-works GREAT!and the newer batteries are LIGHTER than the older 18V ones.


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