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Thread Number: 34044
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
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| Post# 368987 3/23/2017 at 14:29 (2,583 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 368993 , Reply# 1 3/23/2017 at 14:41 (2,583 days old) by jimjimmunster (Hammond, Ind.) | ||
A Filter Queen | ||
| Post# 368997 , Reply# 2 3/23/2017 at 14:47 (2,583 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369002 , Reply# 3 3/23/2017 at 15:08 (2,583 days old) by jimjimmunster (Hammond, Ind.) | ||
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There not too heavy... | ||
| Post# 369003 , Reply# 4 3/23/2017 at 15:13 (2,583 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369025 , Reply# 5 3/23/2017 at 17:53 (2,583 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Blue?
Either the 75th or 80th anniversary edition i'd guess. Is it worth it? Depends on the price. I've had filter queens (31, 33, 2x triple crowns, 2x 75th anniversary.) but i find they all lose airflow rapidly due to the cone filter, the cyclone really doesn't prevent fine dust from clinging to it. the powerheads are the other weak point they've just never cleaned very well. They are a machine built with good quality parts, and they typically last a long time, but performance wise they fail to impress me.
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| Post# 369032 , Reply# 6 3/23/2017 at 18:54 (2,583 days old) by jimjimmunster (Hammond, Ind.) | ||
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I found the machine...
I found the filter queen quiet east to use. Atleast it captures the fine dust. Only use genuine filter queen filters. There better quality. And the cyclone seems to work. There is no extreme airflow loss. There really is no way to effectively use a cyclone. The powerheads are ok; I can say a few things about it. The filter queen is way better than any wal-mart trash. I would consider a filter queen the northwestern equivalent to a Aerus. My Filter Queen 500 is much more powerful than My Electrolux LX, and it needs many new seals. I would highly suggest getting a FQ.
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| Post# 369040 , Reply# 7 3/23/2017 at 20:57 (2,583 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Blackheart wrote: They are a machine built with good quality parts, and they typically last a long time, but performance wise they fail to impress me.
I reply: I agree completely. I picked one up about a year ago for $5 and after spending ten times that much on replacement parts, I was thoroughly underwhelmed with its performance. Any of my Electrolux canisters will clean circles around it. | ||
| Post# 369048 , Reply# 9 3/23/2017 at 23:20 (2,583 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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| Post# 369052 , Reply# 10 3/24/2017 at 00:35 (2,583 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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Thank you for your replies. On consideration I think I will look elsewhere.
You are so lucky in the US you have so much choice of quality cleaners. Here in the UK there is very little choice of quality bagged vacs, plenty of cheap bagless cleaners made in the far east though. One cleaner i'd love to own is the Aerus Lux Platinum. That looks like a top quality machine! I like some of the Riccars too.I used a Brilliance when I visited my relatives in Springfield Missouri. I was very impressed with it.Wanted to take it home with me :) Wish they were available in the UK but sadly I don't think they would sell many as there isn't a culture for spending that kind of money on Vacuum cleaners. :( | ||
| Post# 369060 , Reply# 12 3/24/2017 at 09:25 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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Thanks Mike 😀 I like Sebo and Miele I've owned a few models cannister and uprights. The ultra one is available in the UK under the AEG brand. I have considered an Ultra One.
I've also considered importing vacs from the US but with shipping and import taxes the money soon mounts up. Plus to ship bags and filters is quite expensive too but I might do it sometime. | ||
| Post# 369063 , Reply# 13 3/24/2017 at 09:50 (2,582 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Marcus, I would agree with the majority here. In my experience, the Filter Queen canisters may be a high quality, long lasting cleaner, but lacking in cleaning performance. Due to using a paper cone with no micro filtration layer, as others have said the dust in the dirt picked up gets attracted instantly to the filter & causes it to lose most of it's suction & airflow with hardly any dirt in the bin. No wonder HMI Industries introduced the Filter Queen Optima canister with a paper bag in the 90's, I think they know this is a problem with their cleaner.
In addition, the current wand & powerhead neck need a redesign. It's a poor design that breaks far too easily, due to the clips used to secure the wand to the hose & powerhead neck, & this in turn causes the wiring in the wand & powerhead neck to fail prematurely. Unacceptable for the pricepoint this cleaner is sold at new. As for the powerhead, the current design uses a brushroll that is ineffective at grooming carpets & poor at dirt removal, & also needs a redesign. They should have stuck with the old powerhead design & made a swivel neck for it, at least that powerhead can have it's brushroll adjusted so the bristles stick out more & groom & clean better, comparable to a Electrolux PN5/6 powerhead when adjusted properly. If Filter Queen wants to remain competitive in selling their product, these issues must be addressed IMMEDIATELY with the next model. And they need to scrap the paper cone, replace it with a cone made of HEPA Cloth material with a support to support it inside the bin, & the Medipure filter needs to be replaced with proper pleated HEPA Filter media inside the motor compartment, replacing the batting around the vents. These measures will make the cleaner a competitive product in the marketplace & will greatly help the DTD salesman in selling their product to the consumer. Mike - I don't know if you were aware of this, but there are aftermarket hose, wand & powerhead kits available thru vac shop distributors to upgrade the Filter Queen. This is often encouraged by a vac shop if a customer brings in a current model with powerhead & wand issues instead of repairing the product & having the same issues repeatedly. These same kits can be found on Ebay & other sites as well, & since they use a common Plastiflex hose with 32mm 1.25 inch fitting, this allows the use of generic tools without needing to use a adapter. Rob | ||
| Post# 369064 , Reply# 14 3/24/2017 at 10:04 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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| Post# 369068 , Reply# 15 3/24/2017 at 10:26 (2,582 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
A really good friend of mine has a Filter Queen (or "Filthy Queen" as we call it). I can't say I'm impressed with it. Suction is poor in comparison to other cylinders/tank cleaners in the UK - Numatic cleaners knock socks off FQ in terms of suction. The hose is long, build quality is excellent, but the powernozzle doesn't swivel so can be very awkward to use. It's a bit like pushing a Sega Megadrive on a stick over your floors.
They're also very messy to empty. Whilst the filters are very efficient and disposable rather than washable, having to tip the whole bucket upside down to empty it is messy and there's always a big dust cloud - imagine tipping a Henry bucket with no bag in it upside down over your dustbin to empty it. | ||
| Post# 369069 , Reply# 16 3/24/2017 at 10:49 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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Post# 369081 , Reply# 17 3/24/2017 at 14:02 (2,582 days old) by n0oxy  (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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numatic Forgot about that one, I have a Numatic Henry, very good vacuum. If you need a power nozzle this may not be a good choice though. I think at one time you could get Numatic vacuums with an electric connection for a power nozzle but not sure if that's still the case. Mike | ||
| Post# 369085 , Reply# 18 3/24/2017 at 14:17 (2,582 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 369086 , Reply# 19 3/24/2017 at 14:17 (2,582 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff) | ||
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Post# 369111 , Reply# 20 3/24/2017 at 20:41 (2,582 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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power nozzle with numatic It might still be possible to use a power nozzle, you could get the Volt power nozzle, it's battery powered, although I think the charger only works at 120 volts. It's a very good power nozzle and will turn any canister or central vacuum in to a tandom air cleaner. | ||
| Post# 369120 , Reply# 21 3/25/2017 at 00:07 (2,582 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Mike - Here in Canada there are 3 Numatic models with powerheads available through vac shops to purchase. I would imagine they would also be available in the USA as well through the same suppliers. Also, there is one vac shop supplier, Tip Top Parts, that is carrying other Numatic models that, while they do have powerheads, are NOT officially put together by Numatic....they take one model & offer it with many different common powerheads, such as Lindhaus & the Eureka Sweep & Groom.
Rob | ||
| Post# 369248 , Reply# 22 3/26/2017 at 09:54 (2,580 days old) by reo580 (Holland, Michigan) | ||
I don't understand all these issues with the Filter Queen.
For my daily driver, I use a vintage (circa 1980) Filter Queen Model 31 with a Model 48 PN, and a modified 15' electrified hose. I vacuum up all kinds of fine dust and regular dirt. I have NO problems whatsoever with the suction/ airflow. Filter Queen is a very easy machine to work with and to service. I change the cone filter about once a month and the secondary filter maybe twice a year. About once a year, I clean up the Pow-R-Nozzle and install a new belt in it. Couldn't be happier with a cleaner ***I have NO problems with my Filter Queen and I couldn't be any happier with it.*** I don't trust the new ones as much with their circuit boards and cheap, high speed motors. I had a FQ Model 360: I loved the way it looked, but I couldn't stand the sound of it- sounded like a Wal Mart plasti-vac. so I sold it and went back to my Model 31. I have worked as a professional, trained and knowledgeable vacuum cleaner repairman at an established shop, and I have used many, many different types of vacuum cleaners, and I always go back to my Filter Queen as a daily driver. My experience has taught me that Filter Queens are seldom the problem- it's the owners. | ||
| Post# 369250 , Reply# 23 3/26/2017 at 10:08 (2,580 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Airflow isn't easy to feel unlike suction which is why you need a way to measure it whether that's a visual representation (baird meter) or a guage like an anemometer. With such a method to measure your airflow you can really notice a loss after using them. Fortunately I happen to still have a 75th anniversary so later today i'll put in a new (genuine) cone take a reading then clean my living room and bedroom and take another reading. The results will probably be quite shocking.
These photos were taken to compare the airflow of two different machines with two different motor sizes the reading was taken at the hose end.
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| Post# 369256 , Reply# 24 3/26/2017 at 12:24 (2,580 days old) by reo580 (Holland, Michigan) | ||
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| Post# 369349 , Reply# 26 3/27/2017 at 17:58 (2,579 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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cheap motors
Well i've had 2 75th anniversary editions, both of them had dual stage motors, but the motors are slightly shorter than the older style triple crown. I THINK the first model to exclusively use the new single stage was the 360.
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