Thread Number: 34015
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Modern well-rounded vacuums - What to like? |
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Post# 368762 , Reply# 1   3/20/2017 at 09:27 (2,565 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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It sounds like you made a good decision - a cylinder/canister vac with a powerhead is always a good option for homes with multiple floortypes.
Personally, and I'm not sure how things are in the US at the moment, but the vacuum market is very stale currently. Once upon a time, you could spend any amount of money on a vacuum and it would clean relatively well, but now there's so much rubbish on the market that it's becoming increasingly more difficult to find a decent cleaner. And the criteria isn't the same as it used to be either, with various brands now having different ranges sold under the same name but completely different cleaners - some good and some are terrible. It's not as black and white anymore as "X brand is good, Y brand isn't" |
Post# 368764 , Reply# 3   3/20/2017 at 09:49 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368765 , Reply# 4   3/20/2017 at 10:16 (2,565 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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I wouldn't even say it's about bagged vs. bagless, it's more about quality and efficiency. Vacuums are cheaper than ever to buy new now and the majority of the public seem to expect this. Prices haven't changed much. To use my mother as an example, she doesn't ever want to spend more than £100 on a vacuum because "she's never needed to" but what she seems to forget is that £100 30 years ago was a lot more than £100 is now and as a result, the quality is lower.
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Post# 368766 , Reply# 5   3/20/2017 at 10:25 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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For sure the quality is lower with most vacs being cheaply made in the China but you can still pick up a Sebo E series or Miele C3 for a very reasonable price and they will last many years if looked after.Both excellent machines.
But you're right there is so much crap out there today and I fear it's only going to get worse! |
Post# 368771 , Reply# 6   3/20/2017 at 10:49 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Although vacuums sold in the EU (which won't apply to us when we leave) will still have to reach certain standard for soil removal on carpets and floors, filtration ,energy and I think the motor will have to last at least 500 hours so that's something.
Btw the testing is done in one of 4 designated testing factories and the manufacturer is not allowed to be present. I spoke to theD of Kirby and he told me they sent an Avalir to be tested and they weren't happy with the results so they pulled out. He said the results were worse than a Sebo which he said was ridiculous and they hadn't set up the cleaner correctly. |
Post# 368772 , Reply# 7   3/20/2017 at 10:50 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368773 , Reply# 8   3/20/2017 at 10:55 (2,565 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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That's new! When the testing first came in, it was down to the manufacturer to carry out.
I fully support the wattage cap, but the ratings are ridiculous and the fact that the Kirby crashed and burned in testing just goes to show you that these lab settings and test criteria don't reflect how people use these cleaners in their home or the types of cleaning tasks they're carrying out |
Post# 368776 , Reply# 9   3/20/2017 at 11:07 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368777 , Reply# 10   3/20/2017 at 11:19 (2,565 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 368780 , Reply# 12   3/20/2017 at 11:30 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Well that is incompetence then because it shouldn't be too difficult to do an accurate test on hard floors I wouldn't have thought. They are going to have to improve the standard of testing because this year the new regulations come in and if they don't meet a certain standard they won't be able to sell them in the EU and the standard is getting tougher.
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Post# 368781 , Reply# 13   3/20/2017 at 11:32 (2,565 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 368839 , Reply# 14   3/21/2017 at 08:58 (2,564 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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A new machine....which I don't...I would have a Sebo Airbelt or some type of Miele, one new vacuum I WOULD like to have is a Henry....But try and FIND one!!!! |
Post# 368848 , Reply# 15   3/21/2017 at 13:58 (2,564 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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It will just cost you your left one. One website wants $679 for a 110v Henry. |
Post# 368849 , Reply# 16   3/21/2017 at 14:07 (2,564 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)   |   | |
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Henry vacuums are available for much less on amazon. |
Post# 369864 , Reply# 18   4/3/2017 at 03:05 (2,552 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)   |   | |
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tseg - I love your thoughtful assessment of what to look for in a vacuum. It reminds me of when Steve Jobs was looking for a new washer for his family (talked about in his biography). He dwelled over options for months, and made his family weigh options in discussions at the dinner table. After an extremely thorough analysis of a product he initially knew little about, he imported a Miele front-loader (when front-loaders barely-existed in the US), and he said it brought him immense joy whenever he used it.
I will echo other enthusiasts, in that an air-powered nozzle generally can't replicate the power of a motor-driven brushroll (except maybe a Turbocat with a truckload of suction behind it). Many air-powered nozzles can do a very good job at surface cleaning carpeting, but they're limited to the amount of suction driving the brushroll; this usually means they have softer brushes that may surface clean well (and offer the illusion of a great clean), but will leave behind the dirt and grit embedded in carpets and rugs. No amount of positive reviews from average users can hide this dirty fact. |
Post# 369869 , Reply# 19   4/3/2017 at 05:34 (2,552 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I divide my opinions of vacuum cleaners into two completely separate categories: uprights to deep clean carpets, and canisters to clean everything else. The combination cleaners that try to do both are just too complicated, heavy, bulky, over-engineered and too prone to develop problems. I first clean a room from top to bottom with the canister, then finish off by cleaning the carpet with the upright. For both machines I look for cleaners that are bagged because they require less maintenance, they hide the collected dirt in the machine, and I never have to see it again.
My canister of choice is my Miele C3 FreshAir Canister, which is the white Canadian version of the American Alize. It is lightweight, has extremely strong airflow through the hose, filters the air with excellence and is very, very quiet. It came with an extremely useful SpotLight handle that can shine a powerful beam of light at the press of a button (uses regular batteries like a flashlight). It also has the ability to take a wide variety of attachments, both Miele-made and universal with an adapter. The three main attachments store neatly under the hood. It cost me CAD550. My upright of choice is the Hoover Platinum Bagged Upright. It is lightweight, has excellent deep carpet cleaning ability, has two speeds with a switch on the handle grip, a humongous bag to collect lots of dirt and carpet fluff, a headlight and a 30 foot cord. It is also relatively quiet. I got it for CAD350 at Sears Canada. So for $900 I got myself an excellent dynamic duo of vacuum cleaners that take up no more room in my closet than a bulky power nozzle canister. |
Post# 369871 , Reply# 20   4/3/2017 at 06:20 (2,551 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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