Thread Number: 3359
Haley's Comet has an appointment at the Spa. |
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Post# 37729   4/12/2008 at 18:56 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Cold overcast rainy weekend. Decided it was time to spruce up Mr Comet. As the before pics show, I got this diamond in the rough Ugliest Vacuum Cleaner Ever Made in filthy bashed & gouged shape - yet I couldn't let it get away..its so peculiar. Now, she'll never win any prizes but she came virtually intact with the inner cloth bag, hose ends (since replaced with new silver vinyl slinky hose), and one plastic side emblem. Only thing gone is the broken off switch pedal. The hinge arms are still there, tho. The worst of the damage is the fractured dent in the magnesium body, on the right rear top corner. It appears she was dropped quite hard. |
Post# 37730 , Reply# 1   4/12/2008 at 19:02 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 37732 , Reply# 2   4/12/2008 at 19:09 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Inside there's enough of the original paint color to establish an 'old gold' match. I found it in the automotive section as gold ceramic high heat engine paint. The speckling inside the lid cleaned off comepletely, leaving the gold and the labels in like new shape. Hooray. no need to paint that section. Most of the mildew blistering inside the bag compartment bottom cleaned up with wire wheeling. The case was full of mouse droppings and hay bits & spiders. |
Post# 37734 , Reply# 3   4/12/2008 at 19:20 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Since the cord was fully out I didn't realize the Comet came with a cord reel. While taking it apart I was contemplating putting one in, since the case is soooo big. Wonder of wonders, it has one and the original molded plug and cord are in perfect condition! The reel was jammed open with a tree branch fragment. Once free-ed up it sprang back to life. I even found the tiny spring that engages the ratchet...in the pile of dust & mouse poop. I never throw this out until it's been sifted. :-) The Comet is robustly constructed of the best materials, like a Compact. meaning seriously large bolts, acorn nuts and metal screws. The motor has it's own heavy phenolic surround funneled back to the exhaust port. Motor filter cage of the same material. |
Post# 37735 , Reply# 4   4/12/2008 at 19:28 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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A perfect colour match preserving the wrinkle. Since I didn't attempt to finese every little paint chip dimple or the large flake on the back corner it's not to Crevicetool Rick's stellar standards. But Rick, I did hammer out the corner dent and you know what that's like with magnesium. Dang, that's hard metal! Think I'm lucky I didn't shatter the whole corner off...
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Post# 37736 , Reply# 5   4/12/2008 at 19:32 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 37737 , Reply# 6   4/12/2008 at 19:52 (5,828 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Cool light & strong & doesn't rust Quite a unique vac. Best to let the paint cure esp if it's damp out. |
Post# 37738 , Reply# 7   4/12/2008 at 21:39 (5,828 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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The Haley's Comet Vacuum is a unique oddity that I first saw and read about on Charles Lester's site page for Compact. When one came up on Ebay I pursued it. No one else did. Turned out to be located right here in rural Southern Ontario a mere 2 hour drive towards Windsor, so for $10 and no shipping I got me one. Charles' excerpt: "A very bizarre offshoot of the Compact was the short-lived “Haleys Comet” (sic), a strange machine from another dimension that today is as scarce as hens' teeth! I'd like to thank Jack Wolf and Mary Ellen Little for contributing information to this site. Mr. Wolf's father, Lee Wolf, was a National Distributor for Compact for about ten years. He invented the Haley's Comet vacuum and left Interstate Engineering in the late 1960's. Ms. Little is an employee of Interstate Electronics Company and is the editor of the company newsletter." And I'd like to thank Charles Lester for making me aware. Rick Asquith (vac-o-matic) in St Louis is the only other one here to confess so far to having one. As seen in this picture he posted, his is in nice condition with the equally odd 'plasterer's trowel' rug nozzle and floor thingie. Say there, Rick, what's the underside of those floor tools look like? Dave |
Post# 37759 , Reply# 9   4/13/2008 at 10:01 (5,827 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Thanks Rick. That's high praise coming from you. What I'm most pleased about is comparing the new paint to the old paint and can't see a color difference. :-) Off to get another can and paint the inside of the bag chamber as it was. No room at Luxe Towers but with 3 Compacts and this beast we'll have to start erecting the low level drive-in Motel Compact...a nice place with 'show off the side trim' angled parking for whale bodied tanks like Universal Jet Flows, too. haha. Making up a switch pedal from aluminum plate to bolt to the hinge stubs and I'll cover it in ribbed rubber. This vacuum must have sat a long time with stagnant water pooled in the bottom. Explains the condition of the cordwinder & bottom corrosion, but didn't touch the motor. It's in great shape and stamped Lamb Electric - Division of Ametek, Inc. Has a patent date for 1957 1958. Same fan unit used in Compacts and Filter Queens so it should pull strong. Fingers cossed. Golly, studying Vac-o-matic's picture of the floor tools and wand end I think it might have had a Filter Queen type bezel at the end of the curved elephant trunk hose handle. Mmmmm... |
Post# 37763 , Reply# 11   4/13/2008 at 11:28 (5,827 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 37771 , Reply# 13   4/13/2008 at 12:20 (5,827 days old) by petek (Ontario)   |   | |
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I can't help thinking how much that vacuum looks like that 50's GM bus of the future.. can't find a picture of it grrrr |
Post# 37772 , Reply# 14   4/13/2008 at 12:26 (5,827 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Ahah! Kirby wands. What a great choice with the flutes along the sides & all. I think I remember seeing some yellowish gold fluted plastic wands in Doug Smith's cellar...or did I? But means there is such a thing out there. As you can see my wand nozzle has no connector - it just ends. Won't be much trouble cobbling up a wand connection. It came with some stiff cracked plastic bojack hose so this is the hose I've chosen from the parts bin. Yeah right, it was the only one remotely suitable. :-) Very floppy flexible silver gray vinyl with a single coil, it stretches like a slinky to 9 feet, springs back to 3.5 feet. That'll do nicely. Silver threads among the gold, eh? There's so much room in the bag chamber I am very tempted to add on a second set of fans but I don't currently have a second spare motor. A bit down the road, tho, I'll see my vac repair guy about it. Adding two more turbine stages would give it suction power to compliment it's bulldog looks. LOL. Suck the plugs right out of hardwood planks.... Oh there I go...dreaming again... |
Post# 37773 , Reply# 15   4/13/2008 at 12:28 (5,827 days old) by petek (Ontario)   |   | |
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found it,, the GM Futureliner of the 50's |
Post# 37779 , Reply# 16   4/13/2008 at 12:43 (5,827 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Yes, they do look related. I saw it and touched it in summer 2005 at the Eyes On Design Dream Car Show at the GM Design Center. All the Concept cars we drooled over as boys were there arrayed around the lawns & reflecting pool, brought in from Ford, Chrysler, GM and many Auto Museums & Private owners. On my webpage photo link I have over 200 pictures of this show. Go see 'em, Car Guys & Gals... CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeoliandave's LINK |
Post# 37781 , Reply# 17   4/13/2008 at 13:52 (5,827 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 37992 , Reply# 18   4/16/2008 at 20:13 (5,824 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Mulling this over most of the day at work I got down to business over dinnertime. The original switchplate pedal is a curved phenolic casting with two hinge arms, the piece molded to fit the opening with an inside flange edge that seals around the opening at rest. The switch button acts as a spring keeping the plate snug up in the opening. The stubs of the missing plate hunges still in place I decided to make up a curved steel plate that wiould match the inside curve of the opening with a small lip to hit the stop bar molded in the body opening. Chose steel as aluminum might tend to develop a dimple over the metal switch button over time. So, with handy dremel tool and lots of patience here's the plate test fitted and working reliably. |
Post# 37993 , Reply# 19   4/16/2008 at 20:14 (5,824 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 37994 , Reply# 20   4/16/2008 at 20:15 (5,824 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 37995 , Reply# 21   4/16/2008 at 20:29 (5,824 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Inside mounting points. Once again, this is a very robustly constructed vacuum cleaner. What I had to work with and around and provide clearances for. I wanted to use the old hinge stubs for the correct clearance fit of the plate - the new plate (a piece from an electrical box that was just the right width, thus the hole) was cut with extension tabs that are crimped tight around the stubs front and back to prevent slippage. The cast aluminum handle mounts on the same axle as the plate hinges. So, now it fits I'll file down the rough edges, paint the plate black and pressure tape a 3/16" thick fitted ribbed rubber mat to it that will sit flush with the surface. |
Post# 38055 , Reply# 22   4/17/2008 at 22:11 (5,823 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38056 , Reply# 23   4/17/2008 at 22:13 (5,823 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38057 , Reply# 24   4/17/2008 at 22:14 (5,823 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38058 , Reply# 25   4/17/2008 at 22:17 (5,823 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Looking good! hey, I';d like to get me one of those fangled vac testers |
Post# 38064 , Reply# 26   4/17/2008 at 22:51 (5,823 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Any vacuum gauge will work and you often find them at flea markets in the auto mechanic's section for engine manifold testing. This particular one is an all-in-one portable box for the Vacuum Service Shop to go on site - ie: the customer's home. As you can see, it has a fuse protected electric system to plug in the vac and then check wireing and motor coil continuity with the light socket or the meter. I also have the pos & neg needle probes for it. The side has a small rubber ball socket to hold a hose wand end against for basic suction testing. The large rubber ball and hose extension I added so that I can test any vacuum port with the hose removed for really accurate readings. The different readings reveal the severity of a leaky hose. |
Post# 38075 , Reply# 27   4/18/2008 at 00:13 (5,823 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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really like the ones you test compression in the engine hmmm may have to get me one Thanks |
Post# 38078 , Reply# 28   4/18/2008 at 06:31 (5,822 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Here's an oldie I've used for decades for player piano work. Players operate in the 7 to 25" water lift range, up to 40" on crash chords. This one was always perfect in that it is a dual free-wheeling dial with no bump stop peg. It measures both vacuum and pressure for engine vacuum and fuel pump pressures. Since I've not had to go out looking for a new one I'm not sure where you'd start Someone else here probably knows. Home Depot Tool department, maybe? or a local hardware store. I don't even know what such a thing is priced at these days. For vacuum cleaners you'd want one that reads up to at least 100". Dave |
Post# 38082 , Reply# 29   4/18/2008 at 07:10 (5,822 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 38084 , Reply# 30   4/18/2008 at 07:19 (5,822 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38095 , Reply# 31   4/18/2008 at 15:38 (5,822 days old) by crevicetool (GA )   |   | |
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By God, he reminds me of me!!! Can't say anything else that Alan didn't say in the above post. |
Post# 38098 , Reply# 32   4/18/2008 at 16:13 (5,822 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 38099 , Reply# 33   4/18/2008 at 16:34 (5,822 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38106 , Reply# 34   4/18/2008 at 17:43 (5,822 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38107 , Reply# 35   4/18/2008 at 17:51 (5,822 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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But let the motor warm up and blow hot air at 85" through it and it begins to grow...and grow...and grow til it reaches almost 3 times it's length and this is with the hose being freely blown with no blockages! Another indication the Haley's Comet exhibits elephantine characteristics. Now, about that time at the Syracuse Zoo when the bull elephant grew a 5th leg...or a second trunk... |
Post# 38113 , Reply# 36   4/18/2008 at 19:53 (5,822 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)   |   | |
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you have been to the syracuse Zoo??? I am about an hour and a half away from there in Greene Ny you should come for a visit sometime dave. Mike |
Post# 38154 , Reply# 37   4/19/2008 at 19:49 (5,821 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Thanks Mike. The next time it looks like I'll be in that area I'll get in touch. Now that the our Theatre is entering preview period and we run 6 day weeks right through to early November...well, that's when I don't get out much. LOL But I do get over to Syracuse/Saratoga/Albany every year around late Nov/early December. Buddy of mine has a 33 rank Aeolian Duo-Art player pipe organ in his house. :-) Now then, Haley's Comet is as together as it's gonna be for the next little while. I did find this once white, now yellowed heavy plastic ribbed wand in the parts bin. As you can see it has a button latch arrangment - on the far side two of the ribs are raised to form a channel for a press-in power cord. The plastic is the quality and heft of a Kirby wand. But I don't think it's for a Kirby. Anyone hazard a guess what vacuum brand this is for? CLICK HERE TO GO TO aeoliandave's LINK |
Post# 38155 , Reply# 38   4/19/2008 at 19:51 (5,821 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 38175 , Reply# 39   4/19/2008 at 22:39 (5,821 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)   |   | |
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Flash Gordon... LOL Cool! |