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Post# 364773   1/6/2017 at 19:32 (227 days old) by cocobird5 (Laguna Hills)        

I would like a bread maker, but I can only find them with some kind of non-stick coating. I have a parrot, and that stuff is well known to kill birds.

So does anyone know of a bread maker that doesn't have any non-stick parts?

Thanks -- Sue

Post# 364775 , Reply# 1   1/6/2017 at 19:50 (227 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        

I honestly don't think the bread pan will get hot enough to off gas to harm your bird.

Most are a non-stick silicone rather than the PTEF like Teflon, or Silverstone. In any case the pan is never heated empty, and then only at baking temperatures for bread roughly 325-375 well below the off-gassing that is harmful occurs at temperatures of 600 as in preheating an empty pan.

In any case you may check the coating before you buy, as not all non-stick is Teflon (PTFE).

Post# 364788 , Reply# 2   1/7/2017 at 01:15 (227 days old) by dartman (Portland OR)        
I have had parrots for 40 years...

I have had Maxi Pionus parrots a long time, also have a Zojurushi bread maker with a Teflon pan for years too. I have never had a issue with any of them getting sick from it but big thing is to not overheat it so it burns the coating and starts off gassing poisonous fumes.
Lots of things can affect birds and I think it also depends on how close they are to whatever might be bad for them. I also think the bigger parrots can take a little bad stuff easier as more body mass and lung capacity to not get overcome.
You should register at Avian and ask there as many owners and bird experts are there and can give you a good answer. Good group of caring people that always try to help and have senses of humor too.
I'm a member of it and a few other Pionus specific boards and I like it and am active there, good luck.

Post# 364853 , Reply# 3   1/7/2017 at 18:47 (226 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I raised scores of canaries over the years along with some budgie/parakeets and a pet cockatiel and have used teflon cookware forever. It was never a problem.

Post# 365121 , Reply# 4   1/14/2017 at 16:15 (219 days old) by jodan3399 (Brownsville, PA)        

Non-stick is normally safe unless you heat it to very high temps (500 or more) or boil it dry.

There are some non-stick coatings that are PTFE free but not sure which manufactures that would apply to with breadmakers.

You could always get a breadmaker and use just the dough cycle and finish your dough by letting it rise in the pan of your choice and baking it in the oven. It will warm up for the first rise, but doesn't get very hot.

This is what I do with mine, I don't have any birds, just an old Zojurushi that makes a square loaf, I just prefer the traditional loaf baked in the oven and the ease of not having to make the dough myself...and I'm too cheap to upgrade.

Post# 372407 , Reply# 5   5/19/2017 at 20:15 by cocobird5 (Laguna Hills)        

I got a Cuisinart Bread Maker, and made my first loaf yesterday. Bread was good, no fumes, and I'm glad I got it.

I appreciate all of your comments -- they helped me decide.

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