Thread Number: 33476
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Reason to love old vacuums |
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Post# 364743   1/6/2017 at 07:04 (2,659 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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Now this is just a simple test with suction and airflow performance between the mid 90's Lux Royal D790 and new Electrolux UltraFlex.
So why I personally like old/vintage vacuums compared to the modern ones. Vintage: + better build quality + two stage motor (twin fan) + how they look + smooth sound + performance (surprisingly) + design + long life span New: - all plastic design - high pitched sound - one stage motor (one fan) - toy look - short life span Video to proof the performance: |
Post# 364746 , Reply# 1   1/6/2017 at 07:45 (2,659 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 364749 , Reply# 2   1/6/2017 at 09:09 (2,659 days old) by KirbyCollector (Columbus Ohio USA)   |   | |
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Post# 364750 , Reply# 3   1/6/2017 at 09:19 (2,659 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Lets assume that 1976 is "Vintage" since it was more than 40 years ago.
Sears Best PowerMate canister - all plastic, poor quality (most of the power nozzles broke while under warranty or soon thereafter), terrible quality hose (they all split), loud, belching dust through one ply bag, troublesome cord winder, hard to pull around. Or, go back another decade - 1966. Sunbeam Courier, loud, terrible filtration, motors almost universally failed very quickly, belching dust, turned over at the drop of a hat. After the 1930's (Post World War II), the quality of vacuums began to decline. Not overnight, and not all of them. But you can see it if you have a museum full of them and spend every hour at work playing with, and talking about, vintage vacuums. |
Post# 364758 , Reply# 5   1/6/2017 at 10:32 (2,659 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Look at Convertible, for instance. They said,"If you can trim even $.01 from every unit, think of the savings". Look at hoses: cloth to veriflex, ultraflex, tufflex, hair dryer hose, pool filter.... look at bags, too, as well as length of cords.
Sometimes, it didn't hurt the integrity of the machine. But, sometimes, it did, bigtime. |
Post# 364761 , Reply# 6   1/6/2017 at 12:07 (2,659 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 364762 , Reply# 7   1/6/2017 at 12:10 (2,659 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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Post# 364787 , Reply# 8   1/7/2017 at 01:00 (2,659 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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As i have mentioned here on at least a couple of ocassions, sometimes better not to over think "love" and just go with your gut and be glad a common home appliance can put a smile on your face. The best "reason" then being, for me at least, is no reason at all. When i indulge my passion for vacuum collecting i simple find it more enjoyable to not care if it all adds up or not, end of story. I have my ideas about what i like, but i always seem to break my own self imposed rules sooner than later. Is it the best cleaner, best value, best model, blah blah blah? That can be fun to banter about, but IF it limits your enjoyment i say tune out the noise of other peoples opinions and get your vacuum freak on as you damn well please... |
Post# 364793 , Reply# 9   1/7/2017 at 02:58 (2,659 days old) by Mike811 (Finland)   |   | |
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Post# 364904 , Reply# 11   1/8/2017 at 23:09 (2,657 days old) by nali (Montréal)   |   | |
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I'm new in this game. What is the general quality of my Kirby Sanitronic VII ? |
Post# 364905 , Reply# 12   1/8/2017 at 23:19 (2,657 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 364923 , Reply# 14   1/9/2017 at 13:23 (2,656 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 364928 , Reply# 15   1/9/2017 at 14:29 (2,656 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Gottahaveahoove wrote: Years ago, it WAS a very big deal to own a vacuum. You'd hear people say, "We got a HOOVER". Or, "We have an ELECTROLUX, KIRBY", etc. THey were built to last, and were serviced regularly.
I reply: Absolutely. Not only were they built to last, they were built to be serviced. Most of today's vacuums--and other household appliances, for that matter--simply are not designed to be repaired. Outer cases are sealed to prevent the user from opening them or closing them back up in the event one does manage to pry it open and the circuit boards present in nearly all appliances today serve as de facto self-destruct mechanisms that seem to burn out just after the warranty expires, thus forcing the consumer to replace the item. |
Post# 364950 , Reply# 16   1/9/2017 at 22:50 (2,656 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 365280 , Reply# 18   1/18/2017 at 12:32 (2,647 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 365661 , Reply# 20   1/26/2017 at 12:19 (2,639 days old) by electrikbroomgu (Rome, NY)   |   | |
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I can say without reservation that the vast majority of appliances made in the past 20 plus years are not at all designed to last and will keep you coming back on a regular basis to buy a new one. Now there are exceptions of course. if you want a good washer and dryer that will last Speed Queen still makes them like they used to be. Kirby will sell you a quality vacuum along with Aerus, Filter Queen and many others. But these are specialized items that cost considerably more. The average day to day items sold in Walmart, Target and Costco as an example are mostly Chinese produced low quality items that are design with a short life span. Below is a compiled list of examples of items that I have personally dealt with
Sunbeam mixer bought at Walmart for 25.00 for mom in 2012. It lasted exactly 2 years before the grey handle paint started coming off. Then the switch starting cutting in and out and mom got nervous using it. It now sits in the cellar in the unused heap pile. I recently found her a vintage NOS Sunbeam from the 1970's that has 10 times more quality and will probably last her the rest of her life. Roommate back in 2005 bought a brand new Sunbeam iron with a retractable cord from Wally World. He lived with me for 3 months. That was as long as the iron lasted before the cord retractor quit working. In contrast mom and I still have irons from the 1970's that work and look like new despite hard use. A good friend bought a late model Dirt Devil Classic bag-less hand vac. Within 6 months the tab broke that holds the clear cover on rendering it useless. Surprise! It also clogged up and lost 80% of it's suction after cleaning a few times because the filter is tiny. Mom still has her own mothers Dirt Devil 103 style hand vac that was bought in 1986 and I still have my dad's mother's 103 that was purchased a year before and was the first of the run of those. At work the faculty staff purchased a lovely white Toastmaster two slice toaster from Dollar general for around 12 bucks. Within a month the lower side became distorted and was actually starting to melt! Yikes I still have a 1980's Toastmaster with chrome sides that works as new! At the same work place they have a late model Maytag clothes washer where they clean the custodial uniforms in. Well it lasted about a year before the timer crapped out and now it clunks because the agitator is already worn. I can move it side to side with my hand which it didn't do nearly as much last year. My maytag from 1983 has been bulletproof. Moms 2012 Frigidaire stove has needed 3 new burners and 4 sets of chrome shields because the Chinese steel corrodes within 6-8 months of use. Her old one never needed new ones in the 35 years she owned it. I could go on and on and on with so many things that myself or a family member or someone I know purchased lately that failed or broke but you get the point. We live in a very disposable society and if you want anything resembling quality you will have to spend a lot more for it and search long and hard to find it. |
Post# 365663 , Reply# 21   1/26/2017 at 15:10 (2,639 days old) by icee (Indiana)   |   | |
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I do feel, that as a whole but not 100% of the time, products of years past were built with a certain standard of higher quality and ability to be repaired. And I simply love old sweepers, they have so much character, interesting designs, wonderful noises, and just all around are enjoyable.
But That's not to say some newer ones aren't enjoyable either. Personally, I adore my LG Kompressor Luv200r. As far as bagless goes, which I know is a bit of a no-no word for many, it's very good and I have no complaints about it. I often times call it my "ferrari" of my sweepers for its looks haha. I even enjoy my dirt devil swivel glide (wish it was a vision instead, like my mom used to have, but it works as a substitute). Is it the best sweeper, with the highest air flow and best agitation? Lol absolutely not. But do I enjoy it? Certainly! It's all about what you enjoy. For me, older sweepers are still my bread and butter, and I'm pretty sure it will stay that way. What's most important though, is what you find enjoyable. |
Post# 365731 , Reply# 23   1/27/2017 at 21:14 (2,638 days old) by Luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)   |   | |
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Well materials years ago were cheaper as well and plentiful. |