Thread Number: 33190
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
The Unofficial Dyson DC07 Workshop Manual |
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Post# 362470 , Reply# 1   11/15/2016 at 14:46 (2,690 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Hi Jan. Welcome to Vacuumland.
I noticed in your profile that you may be interested in owning a Kirby. I also noticed that you are interested in a high performance vacuum. I can assure you that any Kirby or Royal metal upright made in the last 20 years will outperform any Dyson ever made.
If you have any questions regarding Kirby's or any other brand of vacuum, you have come to the right place. There are experts here at vacuumland for every brand of vacuum there is. All you need to do is just ask. We are always here to answer your questions.
~Stan
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Post# 362489 , Reply# 2   11/16/2016 at 06:32 (2,690 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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This is an item we sell, and it is my wife on the cover. Here is some of the eBay feedback on it. You can also find it on Amazon in the US, who should supply from local stock. Link below.
Bear in mind that if you order from the UK, 14-21 days is a typical delivery time. CLICK HERE TO GO TO ManchesterVacs's LINK |
Post# 362527 , Reply# 3   11/17/2016 at 11:51 (2,688 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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"I can assure you that any Kirby or Royal metal upright made in the last 20 years will outperform any Dyson ever made."
Not so fast on that one! The Dyson DC17 & the Dyson DC28 Airmuscle uprights will match a Kirby G-series for cleaning performance. A look back at past ratings in Consumer Reports shows that both of the Dyson's & the Kirby's performance are pretty evenly tied, & I would agree with that having tried a DC28 once. Rob |
Post# 362530 , Reply# 4   11/17/2016 at 14:13 (2,688 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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Post# 362536 , Reply# 5   11/17/2016 at 16:41 (2,688 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 362540 , Reply# 6   11/17/2016 at 19:13 (2,688 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 362547 , Reply# 7   11/18/2016 at 09:32 (2,687 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 362678 , Reply# 8   11/22/2016 at 16:40 (2,683 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester)   |   | |
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Kirbyvertibles, if ever you are passing our shop in Manchester, England, you will find her most days near the main doors on the packing desk. When not doing that, we have her testing out our machines. She also does our product photos.
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Post# 362683 , Reply# 9   11/22/2016 at 22:03 (2,683 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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"Let me reword my statement. Any Royal metal upright vacuum with a 9 or 10 amp motor will out clean any Dyson ever made."
Nope, again you're wrong! The Carpet & Rug Institute gives the Kirby a Gold rating, whereas the Royal Metal uprights get a Silver rating. Which means either the Royal causes more carpet wear, or it doesn't pick up as much dirt as the Kirby. Either way, Kirby & a Dyson DC17 or DC28 Airmuscle are better than a Royal Metal, at least according to CRI & Consumer Reports. Rob |
Post# 362711 , Reply# 10   11/23/2016 at 19:17 (2,682 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Sorry Rob but I have a correction for you.
I never took much stock in Consumer Reports Magazine testing procedures. I put all my faith in the testing that CRI does. The reason the royal Metal vacuum did not get a gold rating is because emissions weren't quite at the level required for a gold rating. At the time of the testing they were using paper HEPA bags in the Royal because the synthetic cloth HEPA bags were not widely available at the time.Had CRI used the cloth HEPA bags the rating would have been gold for sure. In the dirt removal tests the Royal performed every bit as good as the Kirby Sentria 2 .
This topic has been discussed elsewhere in this forum you can check the archives to read up on it. |
Post# 420099 , Reply# 11   2/17/2020 at 12:53 (1,501 days old) by Rdwdcp (UK)   |   | |
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Hello Manchester vacs |
Post# 420118 , Reply# 12   2/17/2020 at 19:13 (1,501 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)   |   | |
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Just as an aside to the years ago discussion - Royal uprights were never meant to be use in or sold to a residential home. They were meant to be tough and brutal to take care of industrial and office messes. Paper clips, toner dust, well-trampled dirt and lint, hand truck wheel marks, and who knows what else. Likewise residential carpet was not made to be beat on by commercial vacuums. So the CR testing on them is kind of a null topic unless you install office carpeting in your house, then sure.
Now on the flip coin, a Kirby was not meant to be used in an office environment, they are too weak to handle that. The fans will chip and crack or break, and the brushroll will wear faster as well as the motor. The quick change tool system is also a burden to and useless for office cleaning. I have a lightweight industrial vacuum I made the mistake of using on my living room rug (which is wool). It ripped a lot of the fibers apart and left the rug thinned in spots. Luckily I noticed it in time (and because it was spitting up little short fibers all over). I tried the same vacuum in my basement (40 years old industrial grade glue-down low pile carpet my father installed himself) and the vacuum performed nicely and the carpet was happy and clean (although the agitation did bust up the ancient decaying glue so there's a crunchy sound when walking over it now). Both are vacuums made for totally different environments as well as completely different carpets - so that needs to be factored into the equation - and sadly Consumer Reports does not do that. They need to have a separate section for residential and industrial vacuums. |