Thread Number: 33123
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Help with Kenmore ID and comparison with newer Miele |
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Post# 361790 , Reply# 1   11/1/2016 at 16:00 (2,704 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 361796 , Reply# 2   11/1/2016 at 17:20 (2,704 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 361816 , Reply# 3   11/1/2016 at 21:12 (2,704 days old) by compactc9guy (Bathurst NB)   |   | |
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Post# 361826 , Reply# 4   11/2/2016 at 06:53 (2,703 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)   |   | |
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has been making Kenmore vacuums since the 80's. I believe they purchased the company from Whirlpool that made them prior. Service Merchandise sold Whirlpool branded vacuums in the 80's also made by this Panasonic company. |
Post# 361832 , Reply# 5   11/2/2016 at 08:30 (2,703 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Vamp945, I would keep the Kenmore.
First, one obvious reason, your Miele being a compact S4 model, there is NO WAY to add a powerhead in the future....there is no socket in the canister for a electric hose. You can only add on a turbo brush, which robs the vacuum of some of it's airflow/suction to make it work. Your only hope would be to trade the S4 in, save some money on a newer Miele, & start from scratch. Even if your S4 was capable of being upgraded to a electric powerhead, the cost of the hose, electric wand & powerhead would be so exorbitant that upgrading makes much more sense. Yes, the Miele would have better performance in terms of suction/airflow, & better filtration, but only because the Miele has a exhaust HEPA filter. If you use a HEPA Cloth bag in your Kenmore that solves the filtration problem, the only emissions your Kenmore would be exhausting would be carbon dust emissions from the motor. And although the Kenmore has less airflow/suction, it isn't a huge difference....90" inches of waterlift for Kenmore, vs 100" inches of waterlift for Miele. Both are more than capable cleaners & are up to modern standards. Even if you did want more suction from the Kenmore, there is a upgraded Ametek 115923 motor that you can buy & install that has the same power your Miele has. Finally, the Kenmore long term is going to be signifigantly more reliable than Miele will be. Miele S4 canisters use a single stage Domel motor & circuit boards inside the canister which can & DO fail. Miele claims a 20 year life expectancy, but it is routine to see Miele canisters with bad circuit boards around 10 to 15 years old, & repair parts are exorbitant for Miele vacuums when they do break down. Kenmore, on the other hand, uses a double stage Ametek motor....carbon brushes can be replaced & the entire motor rebuilt if desired, & a simple power switch. A suction release on the hose accomplishes the same results as variable speeds, without the need for circuit boards. As for parts availability, that won't be a issue, these were VERY common vacuums & both genuine & aftermarket parts will be available long into the future. One little tip about your hose - store it off the wand when storing it so it lasts a long time, as the hose material can crack at the ends when stored on the wand. Hope this helps you make a informed decision. Rob |