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Post# 361025   10/16/2016 at 20:17 (221 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere out there)        

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How good are the Quantum vacuums vs Rainbow or Sirena?



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Post# 361044 , Reply# 1   10/17/2016 at 07:15 (220 days old) by NickTechTalk (New Jersey)        
Well..

If you go to their website and scroll down to the "features" category, you will see that they have a Eureka marked as a Bissell, and a Bissell marked as a Shark. Other than that I know nothing about the vacuum but just how poorly they are trying to advertise it.

Post# 361068 , Reply# 2   10/17/2016 at 17:22 (220 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I find it interesting that there is no filter whatsoever on the unit according to their site.

 

I wonder what it does with materials that may not absorb into the water well such as plaster dust, baby powders and a few other materials?

 

 

Also they really do need to fix the photos at the bottom of the page.  Their website designer or someone else screwed up.  There isn't even a Shark photographed but they mention a Shark LiftAway below the features table.


Post# 367825 , Reply# 3   3/4/2017 at 05:39 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I've never heard of this until just now

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so I keyword searched and found someone already posted about it. It looks like the water pan is shaped like the older style rainbows.

There is even ANOTHER one too called the Robot Airflow NS

I can't believe all the water filtration vacuums on the market now. And when you watch the advert, they act like they all invented them, other than the fact they will subtly mention other vacuums like this sell for $3,000.

They are a little different in that the water pan's contain silver ions that prevent germs (so they say) and the hose is 9 feet and I think the basin has LED shining into the basin like Rainbow (at least from what I've read)

I have to admit - it looks cool


Post# 367845 , Reply# 4   3/4/2017 at 19:47 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

As I remembered you can't download the 'whole' owners manual. There is mention of the seperator, how to clean, etc. It would be interesting to see if there is any mention of a 'air cleaner or exhaust purifier' (technically not a filter).

Post# 367860 , Reply# 5   3/5/2017 at 06:47 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I looked

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at the ONLINE manual. It's pretty straight forward, but when you get to the page about separator cleaning, it says this:

THE (turbine) SEPARATOR.
For accurate Separator performance it is recommended to
perform a simple inspection and cleaning (if necessary) after
5-7 uses. It’s a quick and easy procedure. Refer to the
OWNER’S MANUAL found on-line at: QuantumVac.com

But that is the ONLINE manual! It's telling you to refer to something you're already referring to.


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Post# 367861 , Reply# 6   3/5/2017 at 08:17 by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
infomercial

If you look at the infomercial that is on their page, it's a bit melodramatic and misleading. They say that this vacuum uses new technology. Rainbow vacuums have been doing the same thing for around 80 years, I wouldn't say that's new. Also, when they get to the part about filters, they have someone coughing in the background and talk about how other vacuums release bacteria back in to the air that will make you sick. Granted, some vacuums do this, but many don't. If you have a good sealed system such as a Miele, or the Electrolux Ultra one, or a central vacuum, this should not be a problem. I think they assume they are advertising to those who don't know much about vacuums, and that's probably true, I'd be curious to know what others think of the infomercial. I'm not impressed when companies exaggerate their claims. I didn't watch the entire video, so there may have been other things as well. A better approach would have been to describe what it does and then focus on how expensive the rainbow is and that their product is a much better price.

Post# 367868 , Reply# 7   3/5/2017 at 11:26 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
actually

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there are two infomericals on YouTube - I almost passed out when, on one of them, the actually SHOWED the Rainbow and did mention it @ 9:43.

What amazes me about this price of 498 - they have a quick disconnect (unlike Sirena) and a lighted basin. And I did notice on the manual they say to not vacuum anything non-wettable. I almost like the looks of it a little better than my Sirena. Of course, Rainbow is the best.


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Post# 367887 , Reply# 8   3/5/2017 at 16:33 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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Looks like Qusntum isn't the only name this is being sold under. Just found another identical version called the H2O Windforce:





Rob


Post# 367888 , Reply# 9   3/5/2017 at 16:41 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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And just when we thought we had seen it all, here is the Vagua Vac in all it's glory:





No thanks, I wouldn't bother picking up the phone for this overpriced water filtration stick vac, totally gimmicky & looks much better than I bet it works in real life.

Rob


Post# 367897 , Reply# 10   3/5/2017 at 19:29 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I wonder they are are all owned by the same company?

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Because here is ANOTHER ONE! And it's even the same people that are in the Quantum commercial. LOL

Oh, and that stick vac water filtration vacuum - NO THANKS!


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Post# 367905 , Reply# 11   3/5/2017 at 22:54 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        

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Much agreed on the Vagua Vac, Mark!

And it looks like the maker of the Robot & Quantum Vac were also responsible for OceanBlue....Here's it's predecessor, VacMan:





Rob


Post# 367908 , Reply# 12   3/5/2017 at 23:54 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        
But wait there's more!

This vid actually shows the seperator and how it comes off to be cleaned. Still no mention of any filters.

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Post# 367909 , Reply# 13   3/6/2017 at 00:01 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

And this one says that after 180 hours of use a "service" light will come on and you should take it to the dealer for "maintaince".

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Post# 367910 , Reply# 14   3/6/2017 at 00:09 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

And this one shows the demonstrators getting a little too friendly with the hose.

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Post# 367911 , Reply# 15   3/6/2017 at 00:36 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

Even better! Here's the one I have. It looks like the same box and all, but I only paid $39.00 for mine. I guess they must appreciate in value...

Post# 367923 , Reply# 16   3/6/2017 at 09:27 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
180 hours of use

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take it to dealer for maintenance - That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. They do NOT have filters. Other than the computer on board, the PN, and the wands/quick disconnect, this looks just like a Rainbow from 80s/90s. In the manual they say not to vacuum anything non-wettable.

I still like the looks of it quite honestly. I wonder what their reasoning is for wanting to have it brought in to be maintained after 180 hours? MONEY?


Post# 367974 , Reply# 17   3/7/2017 at 09:13 by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I have the early model on robot airflow ns. I really like it but that's because it's basically a glorified Rainbow D4SE with a wessel werk power nozzle and I love the d4

Post# 367990 , Reply# 18   3/7/2017 at 12:27 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

Mark, I wonder if there is 'something' inside that needs to be cleaned at 180 hrs? I wonder if 'no filter to clean' means the customer is not supposed to do anything? It is a good looking machine and seems to be a good price.

Post# 367994 , Reply# 19   3/7/2017 at 13:47 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
Well the Quantum vac

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doesn't say anything about bringing it in for maintenance every 180 hours of use. But that company in the video above did. They are essentially the same vacuum so I don't know. Who is even going to calculate that? I couldn't tell you how many hours I've actually used my shark or rainbow or sirena.

Post# 368021 , Reply# 20   3/7/2017 at 20:11 by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I have a

Model B, C and several variations of model D as well as a D-3 I sold new in 83,That said, I very rarely use any of them, I think they are not very powerful, and messy, Fun as a gimmick, but not to really use..And I used to sell them...LOL I cant see a knockoff being much..

Post# 368055 , Reply# 21   3/8/2017 at 11:48 by intelliclean (West Palm Beach, Florida)        
Quantum Vac Pro

Hello all, my name is Matthew. I work for Intelliclean Solutions, the manufacturers of the Quantum Vac Pro. If anyone has any questions, feel free to call us at (844) 324-1411, or email me directly at mcole@intellicleansolutions.com. You can also chat directly on our website at the link provided, and we'll be happy to discuss everything in as much detail as possible.

To discuss some of the topics that have been presented already:
- Robot, Airflow NS, and Ocean Blue were all predecessors of today's Quantum Vac Pro model. Today's model features usability upgrades as well as the change from nano-silver to micro-silver technology. The Windforce H2O is an identical version of the Quantum Vac Pro in the international market. We only sell the Quantum Vac Pro in the continental United States as per our shipping agreement.

- The only filter in the machine is the water itself. The owner's manual does say not to vacuum non-water-soluble substances as they will not stick to the water and there are no other filters to catch those particles.

- Micro-silver technology in our Air Purification mode of the Quantum Vac Pro was tested by Intertek Laboratories and proven to reduce in-home pathogens such as fungi, mold, bacteria, and viruses with over 99% efficiency.

- The Quantum Vac Pro does not need to be serviced every 180 hours. Simply send it back to our Service and Warranty Center in McMinnville, TN. for repairs and replacements as you notice them under the 5-year warranty which is activated upon shipment.

- We are finalizing edits and getting approval from management to upload an updated version of the Quantum Vac Pro's owner's manual. It will include cleaning the air water separator, which only needs to happen every 5-7 months instead of uses, as well as steps to use the different features of the machine.

- We currently don't have any red inventory left, but have new white and blue units in stock and ready to ship. Feel free to call or email to discuss in more detail about the machine, someone is available 9:00-5:30pm Eastern Time from Monday to Friday.


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Post# 368062 , Reply# 22   3/8/2017 at 13:46 by kirbylux77 (Orillia, Ontario, Canada)        
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Regarding that Intertek performance test result you posted....Well, I find it very peculiar that the one parameter you DID NOT test for, which obviously should have been included, is for dust emissions! Hmm, I wonder why that would be?? Because you have no HEPA Filter as part of a certified sealed system on the Quantum Vac's exhaust. Even your direct competitor in the water filtration vacuum sector, Sirena, has a HEPA filter on it's exhaust as standard equipment. And not only does Sirena sell for only slightly more than Quantum Vac, it has similar features, uses the same identical motor, & the Sirena can be taken to most vac shops for servicing & repair.

It's a FACT that water filtration does NOT work as effectively as the companies marketing their products state. Back in 1995, Consumer Reports blasted the Rainbow D4 SE for it's dust emissions, rating it only "fair". They even went as far to suggest it would be a poor choice for allergy sufferers. And back in the early 90's there was a university study done comparing the Rainbow D4 SE to a ordinary Panasonic bagged upright vacuum with micro-filtration bags....it was found that the bagged vacuum was superior to the Rainbow & that the water filtration was found to capture only about 40% of the particulates from re-entering the enviroment. Which explains why the majority of water filtration vacuum companies have chosen to include a HEPA filter as part of their system. When you state not having filters is a advantage on your website, it's not, it's really a disadvantage!

If I was even going to consider a water filtration vacuum, I would be looking at a refurbished Rainbow E Series or a Sirena. I wouldn't even remotely consider your product, for it's lack of a HEPA filter & also that there would be no local service or support. NO WAY would I consider dropping over $500 dollars for a vacuum like that! And you should be ashamed of yourself for coming on here, thinking you could talk & fool vacuum collectors into believing in & buying your product.

Rob


Post# 368063 , Reply# 23   3/8/2017 at 14:00 by Rainbowguy2016 (Denton ,Tx)        
The Quantum vac

I just did my taxes I thought about either buying a new Sirena or Rainbow or Quantum vac . I dont care if the Rainbow or Sirena doesnt have micro silver that doesnt matter to me and i dont really think you need it anyways . Neither the Sirena or Quantum vac has a shampoor or a rainjet i would like to have that option . Also the Quantum vac you cant try before you buy which sucks because i like try something out before i buy it . I dont like the fact if you dont like the Quantum vac you have to take to ups or fedx to send it back thats gonna be a pain in the butt.

Post# 368073 , Reply# 24   3/8/2017 at 15:57 by Rainbowd4 (TN )        
Get a grip.

You guys don't have to be so rude, jeez.

Post# 368076 , Reply# 25   3/8/2017 at 16:59 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
I think rainbow would only get bad

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emissions with or without a hepa if (like in the CR tests in the 90s) they vacuumed talc, flour, carpet fresh powder, things like that. I only say this because having a rainbow for ten years, the hepa is still very usable after five years, and the first hepa I broke into it and cut open just to examine it and it still had a lot of life into it, but since I destroyed it, I had to start with a new one. I've seen the brown hepa filters on rainbows and the fans caked in dirt on this site.. Mine has never looked like that.. The water and separator is keeping the hepa in the rainbow super clean, as long as you use the bow how you should. I can say in the past I did not think Sirena was as good at Rainbow at this, because I can see dirt on the fans and separator, unlike my rainbow - however, I was filling to the min line and now when filling to max, it seems much better. I actually called the vacuum shop I bought it from and he said I could bring it in and he would clean the fans for free, as long as I had purchased it from them.

I think the Quantum vac is just a Rainbow D4 with a better PN, a bigger motor, quick disconnect, and silver technology. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine going 7 months before cleaning the separator. I honestly would love to have one to try...but I don't need one.


Post# 368182 , Reply# 26   3/9/2017 at 19:44 by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)        

It makes sense that stuff that won't absorb into the water well such as plaster dust, baby powder, etc. would be passed through the water. I guess that's why my Tursbo H2O has a hepa. The Turdbo does do a pretty good job which is why I'd like to get a "real" water vac, but now I'm not sure.

Post# 368184 , Reply# 27   3/9/2017 at 20:23 by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
From what I understand

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if you're vacuuming super fine dust like those materials, it's horrible on any vacuum and will clog up a hepa in no time. I remember reading when carpet fresh powder was sold in the 80s, it was MURDER on any vacuum...That's why I try not to use any of my good vacuums to vacuum that kind of stuff - whether it be water filtration, bagged or bagless. I'm sure the emissions tests would be fine on pre hepa filter rainbows or the quantum vac as LONG as anyone doesn't vacuum that type of stuff. No one here uses talc powder and if I get flour on the floor or drywall dust (which isn't too often), I grab my garage shop vac.

What blows my mind is how is the quantum vacuum so great that the separator would only need to be cleaned every 7 months. I mean, I find that impossible to believe - especially knowing how people who buy it will probably vacuum their entire house on one fill of water, with a basin full of mud at the end. The rainbow separator stays pretty clea even after 5 or so uses, but I still clean it frequently just to be sure.





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