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Westinghouse Wired (Fantom lookalikes)
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Post# 360622   10/9/2016 at 22:19 (2,754 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        

Hey guys, I am posting today because I am curious to see if anybody has a Westinghouse Wired or Wired Deluxe Edition (Fantom fury & cyclone XT lookalikes). If possible post some pictures please!! I am just curious to see some pictures that aren't stock photos. Or if you have any stories/experiences with one, share that too!
Thanks!


Post# 360785 , Reply# 1   10/12/2016 at 13:32 (2,751 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA)        
check this out!

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Post# 360893 , Reply# 2   10/14/2016 at 01:41 (2,750 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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You may mean the Westinghouse UnPlugged. It was a Fantom Wildcat with a 2 foot long battery pack strapped to the back.
I had one such a long time ago. It wasn't that bad for a cordless upright! It included two huge batteries and one huge battery charger, nothing at all close to the batteries and charger for the current Hoover Air Cordless. It was very flimsy though. The last thing that broke on mine was the plastic dirt bin, what a shame.


Post# 360950 , Reply# 3   10/15/2016 at 09:46 (2,749 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        
Actually..

The Westinghouse Wired was a slightly different version of the Fantom Fury, and the Cyclone XT was the Westinghouse Wired Deluxe. The unplugged was something completely different.

Post# 360974 , Reply# 4   10/15/2016 at 19:33 (2,748 days old) by s_matt37 (Utah)        

The unplugged was actually just a cordless Fantom Wildcat.

Post# 360978 , Reply# 5   10/15/2016 at 21:12 (2,748 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        
Exactly

But I was wondering, since the Wildcat had extremely poor build quality (handles breaking off, etc.), was the Unplugged any better in its build quality or was it near identical?

Post# 360983 , Reply# 6   10/16/2016 at 00:37 (2,748 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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I've never used a Wildcat but I will say that the UnPlugged had very bad build quality and nearly everything else was identical to the Wildcat.

I've never heard of the Wired though, that's why I assumed you had meant UnPlugged. I understand that the Wildcat was from after Iona stopped using the dual cyclones from Dyson, but hearing about the Wired makes me wonder what kind of thing was happening between Westinghouse and Iona/Fantom?

With the UnPlugged I'd assumed it was after Iona lost control of the Fantom name, and that somehow Westinghouse ended up with the Wildcat design.


Post# 360986 , Reply# 7   10/16/2016 at 00:53 (2,748 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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Okay, so the limited amount of info I found by googling it was that the original Fantoms were made in Canada, buuuuut the Westinghouse labelled Fantoms were made in China.
I found some interesting reviews on Amazon from 2003-2004 at this link www.amazon.com/gp/product...


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Post# 360997 , Reply# 8   10/16/2016 at 09:50 (2,748 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        
Taking a look on web archive...

Fantom apparently really had some business going on with Westinghouse, since they even advertised the vacuums on their own website. Thats really strange...

I thought Euro-Pro took over Fantom shortly after they went out of business.


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Post# 361002 , Reply# 9   10/16/2016 at 14:17 (2,747 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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That looks like it's after they went bankrupt and lost the dual cyclone licenses. And looking at the bins in other photos I've found I've come to the conclusion that they had changed the cyclone design to a single cyclone.
Some reviews I read about them mentioned a foam filter that clogged extremely fast so that just further confirms the idea that they switched to a single cyclone.


Post# 361003 , Reply# 10   10/16/2016 at 15:14 (2,747 days old) by fantomlightning (Ohio)        
Long Fantom Story Short...

So to start with "fantomvacuums.net" wasn't the Fantom site. It was from a dealer at the time specializing in Fantom parts and refurbished machine sales, from what I remember at the time it was also associated with a now defunct Dyson online site called "Vacmall.com"

Before Fantom ever went bankrupt they decided to stop paying royalties to Dyson for use of his Dual Cyclonic technology. That led to the development of three machines in total, the Wildcat, the Crosswind 200XL, and the Crosswind 600XL. The Wildcat everyone here already seems fairly familiar with, so I'll skip that one for now. The Crosswind models were light blue in color with gray accents, and both were simply adapted versions of the Fury (200XL) and Cyclone XT (600XL). The 200XL was the later style Fury based on the Limited Edition and Special Edition Plus, both with styling updates as well as a changed out wand setup, it also had a specially adapted single cyclonic canister based closely on the design found on the Wildcat that came off as one piece, released by where one would normally find the carry handle on a Fury. The 600XL wasn't really much different from the normal Cyclone XT, just swapping color and getting the single/filtered cyclonic dust bin. Both models also dropped their HEPA filtration in favor of a series of foam based electrostatic filters that were supposed to last the "lifetime" of the machines. It also marked the first instance in which a Fury machine got a premotor filter beyond the simple fluff trap of old.

After the spectacular failure of these machines, along with the failure of the Calypso water filter Fantom/Iona ended up bankrupt. That is where the story of these machines begins. The Fantom naming rights and parts support production for the old machines went to Euro-Pro, who contracted out Sanyo to make bagless machines based on their own "Twister" line of products. The actual designs and production molds of the Wildcat and Crosswinds went to a company called "eSalton" who at the time had the rights to use the Westinghouse name on household products. With a quick name, color, and logo change for the Crosswinds they went into production with basically zero other changes and were called the "Westinghouse Wired" series. The Wildcat, for whatever god awful reason was chosen to be modified as a cordless machine running under the name "Westinghouse Unplugged" with the claim of having all the power and versatility of a normal vacuum, while being cordless and lightweight.

In the end, the Westinghouse machines much like the Crosswinds failed in the market. eSalton seems to not really be around in any form any more, thus parts and support are long gone. Same thing for the Fantom name and any parts or support availability from Euro-Pro.

That's basically the full story behind all these machines, it's pretty impressive how long the Fantom legacy and machine architecture actually managed to survive past the companies demise, and most likely would've lasted longer had it not been for Dysons quick arrival after.


Post# 361004 , Reply# 11   10/16/2016 at 15:19 (2,747 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        
But..

They did make Fantom Fury, Cyclone XT, & Lightning models with their single cyclonic logo. (FantomVacuumFan's Photo). So that shows that Westinghouse didnt completely take over the single cyclonic line of Fantoms. Why would both Fantom and Westinghouse make single cyclonic vacuums at the same time, and sell both of them on their website.

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Post# 361006 , Reply# 12   10/16/2016 at 15:32 (2,747 days old) by fantomlightning (Ohio)        
Those...

Machines with the single cyclonic logo are actually dual cyclonic machines. Fantom was bankrupt before Westinghouse ever started selling machines. The Crosswind machines looked drastically different to the one you posted a picture of, and had canister systems based closely on that of the Wildcat.

Post# 361056 , Reply# 13   10/17/2016 at 13:49 (2,746 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York)        
A few clarifying points.....

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The Fantom Wildcat was originally intended to be CORDLESS. A few months ago, I found
a business report from Fantom Technologies with very detailed information about the design of this vacuum, as well as the then recent introduction of the Fantom Fury "Special Edition" and "Limited Edition" models. They even included a picture of the soon to be Wildcat. I suppose they changed their mind on the cordless aspect. I wish I could find it. If I do, I will post it here. I believe it is from 2000. I have all three colors of the Wildcat, as well as a Crosswind 600 XL. The Crosswind does not run. I can clarify that it is very similar to the Cyclone XT, with the exception of the cyclone design. I also think the plastic is of a slightly lower quality than the Cyclone XT's.


Post# 361072 , Reply# 14   10/17/2016 at 17:56 (2,746 days old) by NickTechTalk (Winter Park, FL)        
FantomFan

Do you have any Wildcats (working or not) that you would be willing to sell?


Post# 376467 , Reply# 15   8/5/2017 at 22:52 (2,454 days old) by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

I know Fantom went under in 2001. Are you guys up for Fantom's Rise & Downfall on DVD? I know the demise happened when 9/11 occured.


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