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FQ 31, Eureka 1746A, and Eureka Cordaway!
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Post# 360386   10/5/2016 at 09:04 (2,753 days old) by michvacguy (Michigan)        

Greetings from Michigan! Hope all is well with everyone!

I recently received 3 great vintage vacs (Filter Queen LD31, Eureka 1746A Powerteam Canister, and a Eureka Cordaway upright) and would appreciate feedback on the following:


1. The FQ did not arrive with wands, hose, P/N, and the tools. Does anyone have a connection or maybe a personal inventory that we could discuss that could be sent to me for purchase or trade? If at all possible mint or near mint condition. I checked out Ebay and the prices to purchase everything separate are staggering... more than the vac's cost to me.


2.Also part of my NIB purchase included a Eureka 1746A power team canister. The spare parts mailing list that came with vac is dated 1-1-82.

a. The brush roll WAS NOT installed in power nozzle nor is in box LOL. I'm thinking either Inspector 78 at the Eureka factory was asleep at the switch or the shop owner need one asap for another matter. The vac is definitely not used for sure. Do you have a new suitable OEM brush roll, or the model # of the part? It does not take a hex end cap by the looks of it. (see attached picture)

b. Are there any current HEPA type bags that are a suitable fit for the Eureka "B"?

c. Although I have noticed with other NIB's from the 70s/80s that the yellow Eureka bag material seems to filter really good compared to today's genuine regular bags.


3 I also got a NIB Eureka burgundy cordaway upright! Awesome carpet cleaning machine!!! Almost like my mom had when I was five or six... until I vacuumed up a marble at that time! I've never had a vac with a Rugulator height adjustment before, and I have berber throughout. Is the rule of thumb to start at highest setting and work way down until the "buzz" of the brush hitting the carpet is heard? At that point do I lower it just a little more down for the most effective cleaning?




Thanks in advance everyone!


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Post# 360396 , Reply# 1   10/5/2016 at 11:18 (2,753 days old) by 3rdGenVacGuy (Columbus, Ohio )        
1746a brush

That vacuum had a metal vg11 brush assembly part #53412-1. Sadly, it is no longer available. The lower end models also had a wooden brush assembly which also is no longer available. I checked with my distributor and they show one of the 53412-1 in their Georgia warehouse. They are going to do a physical check to see if they do indeed have one in stock. There are replacement wooden brush assemblies available, they retail for around $19.95.

Post# 360399 , Reply# 2   10/5/2016 at 11:34 (2,753 days old) by michvacguy (Michigan)        

Thank you!

Post# 360415 , Reply# 3   10/5/2016 at 16:13 (2,753 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Congratulations on your acquisition of a NIB Eureka Rugulator upright. My advice for setting the nozzle height properly: The handle release pedal will allow the cleaner's handle to lower to 2 positions - press once for normal cleaning and press again to lower the handle "flat to the floor" for cleaning under furniture. Before turning the vacuum on, release the handle to the normal cleaning position. Keep lowering the handle until the front of the motor head lifts off the carpet. When you tilt the head off the carpet, it's much easier to slide the Rugulator to any position. With the handle tilting the front end off the carpet, slide the Rugulator to the highest position. Turn on the cleaner, tilt the handle back, and keep sliding the Rugulator to lower positions until you hear the cleaner grooming the carpet (you can keep tilting the front end up between settings to make it easier to slide the Rugulator). Indeed, once you reach a level that allows the cleaner to brush the carpet, you can slide the adjuster a touch lower for deep carpet cleaning. These classic Eurekas did not have overly-powerful suction, so you should not have a problem with "suction-lock" on the carpet. But if the nozzle is not set too low, it will increase airflow and cleaning effectiveness.

Enjoy your new Eurekas!!!!!!


Post# 360422 , Reply# 4   10/5/2016 at 17:03 (2,753 days old) by michvacguy (Michigan)        

Thank you. Im confused though. You keep mentioning tilting handle back andcadjsust? Wouldn't you have to tilt forward so brush can start hitting carpet? Sorry but please re-advise.

Post# 360425 , Reply# 5   10/5/2016 at 17:21 (2,753 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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Would a Rugmaster (Beam) Power Nozzle Brush roll work for this? Check one out at Think Vacuums. They have the U shaped end caps like the one you have pictured. I did find one NOS on Ebay at one time, so keep checking Ebay, you never know.


PR-21
Bud


Post# 360429 , Reply# 6   10/5/2016 at 20:11 (2,752 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Sorry Tim...I made it more complicated than it is.

1. Tilt back off the carpet, set Rugulator to highest setting, stop tilting (let go of handle) to let vacuum rest on the front wheels as usual
2. Turn on vacuum. No grooming sound means it's too high. Yes grooming sound means it's set okay.
3. Tilt back to slide Rugulator to lower setting if need be. Let rest on carpet again to listen for grooming sound.

Repeat until the vacuum is low enough to be sweeping the carpet properly. The "tilt back" trick is only needed to make it easier to slide the Rugulator. You could try to slide the Rugulator without tilting the front wheels off the carpet, but it's much harder to slide when the full weight of the front of the vacuum is pressing on the wheels.


Post# 360431 , Reply# 7   10/5/2016 at 20:29 (2,752 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Tim....here's a 16 second videoclip that says it better than anything I've written! It's for a Eureka DialaNap but the principle is the same....lift the front of the cleaner to make it easier to change the height setting:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK


Post# 360441 , Reply# 8   10/6/2016 at 07:04 (2,752 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Vibragroomer

III double brush steel beater bars may still be available, or a used one can be fitted with new brushes.
Yes, the Beam Rugmaster/ Eureka Express style power nozzles uses the same.
Non cogged belts.


Post# 360445 , Reply# 9   10/6/2016 at 07:51 (2,752 days old) by 3rdGenVacGuy (Columbus, Ohio )        
1746A brush assembly

My distributor called back and confirmed that they have the 53412-1 brush roll in their Georgia warehouse. The brush cost me $27.93. I would have to pay shipping as well, so the price to you would be close to $40, then the shipping charges to you would be extra. You can email me moparmalitia@gmail.com

Post# 360557 , Reply# 10   10/8/2016 at 01:35 (2,750 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Express and Rotomatic are different brush rolls!!!

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The Eureka Express brush roll is very different from the brush roll needed for this model!!!

While both have the belt located at the same spot, the brush roll for these machines have bearing plates on each end that lock the brush roll into the housing. The bearing plate on the section by the belt creates the seal between brush roll cavity and belt section. The bearing plates on the original Eureka stock has rubber gaskets surrounding them. The belt pulleys are different as well.

1st Generation Rainbow power nozzles made by Eureka had these brush rolls along with Tri-Star. All models had the large bearing plates.

I have owned both styles of power nozzles. Despite no longer currently owning an Express, I do have saved pictures of it and downloaded a few more brush roll photos. The Express is a more typical looking brush with no large plates.


Pictures 1-4 are of the style brush roll that you need for that style power nozzle!! Photo 1 is the current market generic CWP style replacement for that power nozzle. Notice it has the bearing plates, separate pulley and dual row chevron style brush. Other photos show both VGI and VGII styles of that brush roll for those power nozzle styles, which are my actual power nozzles. Original part number 26680-2, 53480, 53348

Picture 5-8 show the Eureka Express/ Beam Rugmaster/ Sweep N Groom power nozzle brush roll. The part number is 53411, the all metal brush roll that is a more flush design has no bearing plates. It is a VGIII. This brush roll is for the Express power nozzle not yours!!!


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Post# 360564 , Reply# 11   10/8/2016 at 08:15 (2,750 days old) by 3rdGenVacGuy (Columbus, Ohio )        
Brush rolls

They had small pulley and large pulley brushes as well. Most wood I believe were the small pulley, The VG2 brush shown above is the large pulley. Notice the bottom plate has a bulge where the belt is covered. That is a sign that it used a large pulley brush. Trying to fit a large pulley brush in a PN without the bulged bottom plate will make the belt rub. Michvacguy, no worries the 26680-2 crosses over to the 53142-1, so we have the correct brush roll coming.


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