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Can you use inner bag in Kirby III?
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Post# 358264   8/27/2016 at 01:54 (2,771 days old) by volleybiggs (Denver NC)        

I have a Kirby Classic III and was wondering why you cant use an inner dust bag? I just bought a new outer bag as the old one was really dirty and smelly. I also bought an inner bag that fits over the tub fine. I have not put the inner and outer bag on yet but I have turned it and ran it with just the bag on with no problems.Why can you not use the Classic III with the inner bag? Thanks!

Post# 358278 , Reply# 1   8/27/2016 at 11:11 (2,770 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
volleybiggs

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It's true. The Kirby Classic III 2CB was the last machine which did not officially have the option of disposable bags; that honor being reserved for its successor, the Tradition 3CB.

However, there are quite a few CIIIs out there that have the Eureka F&G-style bag conversion systems, but these are known to reduce suction a lot. Nowadays, for disposable bag operation it is recommended to buy a Heritage II Mini-Emtor setup, and reuse the CIII bag top, and use the new-style poly HEPA bags for satisfactory operation.

~Ben


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Post# 358296 , Reply# 2   8/27/2016 at 15:15 (2,770 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Volleybiggs,

 

Ben is correct. There are conversion kits out there that will allow you to use an inner bag on the C III. However those setups restrict the airflow of the C III reducing performance considerably. You are better off to just stay with the current ShakeOut bag configuration.

 

~Stan

 

 


Post# 358302 , Reply# 3   8/27/2016 at 18:35 (2,770 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        
Kirby Classic III

I've also done the same as Ben and put the Mini-Emptor and Bag from a Legend II on my Classic III.

Post# 358305 , Reply# 4   8/27/2016 at 18:50 (2,770 days old) by ED209 (Nebraska)        

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I've also done the same thing that Ben recommended where I took the bag and mini emptor from a Heritage II and installed it on a Classic Ω that I redid for my dad for fathers day.

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Post# 358309 , Reply# 5   8/27/2016 at 19:08 (2,770 days old) by volleybiggs (Denver NC)        
What happens if i use disposable bag

I have a kirby dispossable bag that fits on the tube and in the bag. what happens if I just it thanks


Post# 358310 , Reply# 6   8/27/2016 at 19:12 (2,770 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I have found that the pre disposable bag era Kirby's perform just as well or even better with the Mini emptor set up from the Heritage II model.

I used that bag set up on an Omega model and worked great. I have a 517 and the air flow is even better than with the shake out bag. I also used it on a Kirby Classic model (1970 - 1972 era) to clean up the dry chemicals from a fire extinguisher. Kirby worked great and it was the perfect choice. That dry chemical will go right thru a shake out bag.


Post# 358356 , Reply# 7   8/29/2016 at 08:48 (2,769 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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If your paper bag fits on the tub as you say, use it and you will be fine

Post# 358360 , Reply# 8   8/29/2016 at 10:31 (2,769 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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That's the beauty of Kirby's evolutionary design approach. Older machines can often be retrofitted with newer parts to achieve enhanced functionality.

Post# 358362 , Reply# 9   8/29/2016 at 10:54 (2,768 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)        
Here Is My

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Classic III bought new in 1976 and sent back to the factory for a rebuild. Kirby offered a paper bag conversion which was the Legend II bag assembly with original red trim. Works wonderfully. This is a daily driver.

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Post# 358516 , Reply# 10   8/31/2016 at 21:06 (2,766 days old) by Rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)        
I love

My Kirby Classic Omega. But hated it when blew some dust when turn on. So I decided do this set up.

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Post# 358585 , Reply# 11   9/2/2016 at 09:41 (2,765 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I don't know why but I just love that Sentria II bag on that Omega!!!!! Very uniformed

Post# 358587 , Reply# 12   9/2/2016 at 09:55 (2,765 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
I agree with kirbyvertibles...

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That modern bag complements the wood grain trim on the handle quite nicely for a very classy looking '70s vibe that's both classic and contemporary at the same time. If I were restoring an Omega, I'd be sorely tempted to copycat that thing.

For what it's worth, I don't see that as bojack or or a frankenvac. It's more of a restomod.


Post# 358593 , Reply# 13   9/2/2016 at 10:45 (2,764 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I am a very traditional/ factory fresh person, but that is just Pretty!

Post# 358600 , Reply# 14   9/2/2016 at 13:56 (2,764 days old) by Rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)        

Thank guys. I actually copycat someone in here. I googled and saw that picture. I had do mine. I still have original handle. I'm afraid going break. It makes cracking noises since its two pieces.

Post# 358602 , Reply# 15   9/2/2016 at 13:59 (2,764 days old) by Rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)        

Original bag when I got it. So pretty, but makes the Kirby very dusty. Lol

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