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Riccar VOLT Cordless Power Nozzle
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Post# 354818   6/28/2016 at 14:22 (2,830 days old) by airway77 (NC)        

Hi All,

I couldn't help but drool over Riccar's newest cordless creation, the VOLT cordless power nozzle. Looks like Tacony took a page out of the Whirlpool-Panasonic Playbook 1990: Kenmore Edition and made it cordless...

For any of you who have used the one at the Museum.....any thoughts? I'd love to buy one for my Air-Way 77. Along with the Air-Way tools, I'm using my VacuFlo TurboCat for wall-to-wall carpet. The Air-Way and the TurboCat get along, but I'm a die-hard electric PN fan. I love Love LOVE my first-run 1986 Eureka Express with VGIII (branded as a MW Power II), but I don't want to deal with the extra wires (the Air-Way has no PN port).

So, any thoughts???? Also, when will they become available?

Thanks!


Post# 354842 , Reply# 1   6/28/2016 at 18:46 (2,830 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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They will be available before the end of summer. You may purchase one as a "volt" in black. It will not be branded with the simplicity nor the riccar brand-name. They are also being made, in pearl white, with the "hide a hose" brand-name, to be sold by vacuflo dealers. The volt, as I understand it, will be available through normal supply channels to the industry that sells Central vacuums.

Post# 354843 , Reply# 2   6/28/2016 at 18:57 (2,830 days old) by airway77 (NC)        
Simplicity/Hide-A-Hose Volt PN

Thanks Tom!!!

What price points/MSRP are on the drawing board of the financial department?


Post# 354872 , Reply# 3   6/29/2016 at 03:21 (2,830 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I want a Volt powernozzle as well-will they be available from MD central vac dealers?Got so many machines I want to try it on!

Post# 354893 , Reply# 4   6/29/2016 at 10:57 (2,829 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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From what I was told, the VOLT will be released to the vacuum wholesalers who carry central vacuums now. I do know it will be available at the Factory Outlet Store as well. As soon as the Outlet Store has them in stock, I'll post about it. Should be VERY soon.

Post# 354912 , Reply# 5   6/29/2016 at 14:18 (2,829 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        
Tom.......

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What is the difference between the Volt and CX1000 made by Hide-A-Hose which is part of Tacony? Maybe they are the same thing under different names? The features are nearly identical to the Volt as you described in another thread and in your article in the new VDTA News magazine.

Any info you can provide will be appreciated. Many thanks!

Charlie


Post# 354924 , Reply# 6   6/29/2016 at 16:57 (2,829 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
the volt is awesome

I tried it at the convention that we had at the museum a few weeks ago, it's awesome. It will clean better than any turbine nozzle, electric nozzles will always clean better since they're nnot robbing your system of airflow in order to spin the turbine. The other advantage the volt has is that it's not just a power nozzle, it actually has a dirty air fan as well, similar to the Kirby and other dirty air uprights. I would be a bit concerned about the dirt going through the fan, but I'm assuming it's designed to handle that. If you run the volt with nothing attached to it, there's quite a bit of air that blows out of the end, if you attach that to a suction hose, the vacuum's suction will pick up right where the volt leaves off. If I had been the designer, I would have only changed two things. I would have made it have manual height adjustment, and I would have used a cogged or surpantine belt rather than a rubber belt which will require frequent replacement. I know they designed it this way to allow the battery to last longer, but I still think not having to replace a belt would have been worth a shorter run time. The volt would also be a great adition to backpack vacuums, most of them do not include a power nozzle hook up, though there is an adapter you can get to add this capability. It was really interesting to use the volt with older canisters such as the eureka canned ham, the Ken Carts, and let's not forget the Sunbeam vacuum that used a 900 watt motor back in the 1950's. One of the objectives of the volt is to provide a power nozzle for the hide a hose system which does not use an electric hose, but you could also use it if you had a nonelectric central vacuum hose and wanted to add a power nozzle without replacing the entire central vacuum kit. It would also work well if you have a straight suction canister and then you added carpet to your living space, you would not have to replace your entire vacuum to have a power nozzle, the volt definitely has lots of uses.

Post# 355008 , Reply# 7   6/30/2016 at 10:39 (2,828 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        
Hi Charlie:

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The Volt and the Hide A Hose power nozzle are the same, with a different color hood and logo. The Volt is in black, and the Hide A Hose nozzle is in pearl white. Using the black Volt on vintage cleaners seems to be a better color match than the pearl white color. Most attachments for vintage cleaners, especially in the 1930's/1940's, were black in color.

Post# 356300 , Reply# 8   7/19/2016 at 18:40 (2,809 days old) by OCScott3085 (DMV)        

Just stumbled upon a video highlighting the new power nozzle. Can't wait to get one for my hide a hose system!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO OCScott3085's LINK


Post# 356323 , Reply# 9   7/20/2016 at 03:43 (2,809 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Take a number and stand in line---I want one,too!!Bet most members on here want one,too!

Post# 356324 , Reply# 10   7/20/2016 at 03:48 (2,809 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The Volt powernozzle for backpacks---Esp for commercial use-the powernozzle would need a replaceable battery so commercial and other heavy users can have a battery on the machine-and the other being charged.That way you could use it continously without waiting for the built in battery to charge.That is the only limitation on this otherwise fine idea and product.Use the Simplicity upright version at the vac shop-kinda neat-the machine is very quiet-but effective.So far the only cordless vacuum that WORKS!Others seem to be expensive toys.

Post# 356357 , Reply# 11   7/20/2016 at 20:54 (2,808 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada)        

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Tell me about something. If a lot of these cordless Volt nozzles that could be retrofitted to straight-suction canisters were mass-produced, would there be a shrinking demand on turbo brushes, including the Turbocats?

Post# 356382 , Reply# 12   7/21/2016 at 00:48 (2,808 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
demand for turbocats

It would be interesting to see if this product cuts in to the turbo cat sales, it will probably be a bit more expensive than a turbo cat, but other than that, I see nothing but advantages. I've heard a turbo cat, the sound is quite annoying, it sounds similar to a dentist drill on steroids. The volt is much quieter, I tried it at the vacuum convention earlier this year, it's not loud at all. Next, the turbo cat, as with all air driven nozzles actually takes power away from the vacuum in order to spin the turbine, and since everything vacuumed up goes through the turbine, it's much more prone to clogs. The volt does not have any of these issues, and in fact will add airflow to the vacuum it's attached to. Granted, in this design everything vacuumed up will go through the fan, since it's a dirty air design, but this usually is not a problem, though I'm wondering how much dirt does collect on the fan in these designs. With a turbo brush, the amount of power the vacuum has is directly linked to how fast the brush will spin, with the volt this is a nonissue, it could be used on central vacuums, straight suction canisters, backpacks, and vintage canisters. At the convention, it was awesome to connect the nozzle to old vacuums such as the Eureka canned ham, a Kenkart, or the sunbeam dual deluxe. So in summary, if deciding between a turbo cat or the volt, there really is no contest, the volt wins hands down.

Post# 356433 , Reply# 13   7/22/2016 at 09:53 (2,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The VOLT (in black) and the Hide-A-Hose (in pearl white) will be available for sale beginning Tuesday, 7/26/16

Post# 356438 , Reply# 14   7/22/2016 at 10:20 (2,807 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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I cant wait to try one at the Museum!


Post# 356440 , Reply# 15   7/22/2016 at 10:22 (2,807 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
I bet it will sell like hotcakes

It's an awesome nozzle for sure, can't wait to see how it sells. I always debate whether to get something as soon as it's released or wait a bit. Sometimes, it's better to wait a bit to make sure there are no design flaws on a product that need to be addressed. I don't think that will be the case here. How often do you need to change the belt and is it hard to do? Can you do it without sight? I would think you could if you are reasonably mechanical, back when computers took expantion cards, I could put those in without seeing it, I've also installed hard drives and CD drives in computers, I would think changing a belt would not be more complex than that.

Post# 356444 , Reply# 16   7/22/2016 at 11:16 (2,806 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
other uses for the volt besides carpet

I would think you could use this nozzle to clean things such as beds and couches as well. It would be interesting to combine it with some of my straight suction canisters such as the Miele Olympus, Sebo airbelt D1 or the Electrolux ultra one classic. I remember reading in another thread that someone wanted to add a power nozzle to a shop vac to clean carpets, this nozzle should fill that roll perfectly assuming the vacuum is using the smaller diameter hose. Even with a large hose, adapters are available to convert a large shop vac hose end to the smaller size. I would love to take this nozzle for a spin with my backpacks to clean my area rugs.

Post# 356478 , Reply# 17   7/23/2016 at 04:03 (2,806 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Maybe a rechargeable hand held nozzle could be developted to use as a hand tool for beds,stairs,furniture,cars,and such.Of course it would have the fan assist the Volt floor nozzle has-say the Volt JR???I have some of those Rug-Rat turbine powernozzles and they sound like they are going to levitate when connected to my M1's,and central vacuums.

Post# 356638 , Reply# 18   7/25/2016 at 23:31 (2,803 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
rug rat

I have one of those, I don't use it to clean much, but it's interesting to see how fast different vacuums can spin it. It spins the fastest with central vacuums, but a few canisters and backpacks come pretty close. A battery powered mini nozzle would be interesting. If you have an electric hose, the Wessel Werk heb160 works really well.

Post# 357550 , Reply# 19   8/13/2016 at 03:12 (2,785 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Now I have the VOLT!!!!Love this thing--fun to try it on various vacuums.Its powerful-and you don't need to "lash up" special rigging to make your "Monster Vac"Get the VOLT and ANY vacuum can become a MONSTER VAC!!!So far have used my VOLT on NSS M1,MD Silentmaster,and a BEAM Bagless central unit.Going to try it with the Kirby Avalir in the canister mode-just for fun.Both the dealer and I think the metal wand on the VOLT powerhead should be about 6-8 " longer.Or maybe a collaspeable wand could have been built into the VOLT to allow for height of users and vacuums to use it on.An EXCELLENT unit!!!I am also going to buy one of the Simplicity cordless vacuums,too.

Post# 357557 , Reply# 20   8/13/2016 at 10:21 (2,785 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
awesome

Great, would love to hear your thoughts on it, what vacuums have you tried it on and how does it work for you? Do tell.

Post# 357569 , Reply# 21   8/13/2016 at 12:36 (2,784 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Are there any implications of the Volt when it produces additional suction air when connected up to a central vac or other kind of vacuum?

Post# 357571 , Reply# 22   8/13/2016 at 13:29 (2,784 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
I doubt it Sebo,

power nozzles perform as well on any vacuum. The big difference is the hose. Some low end central vac non electric hoses absorb air power because they compress from lack of rigidity.
When I first installed my system, I took home a standard non electric hose, and a Turbo Cat head. It barely wound up at all.
The electric hose that they exchanged it with had better suction on the palm of my hand. It spins the mini turbo brush I have just fine.


Post# 357614 , Reply# 23   8/14/2016 at 02:55 (2,784 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

When I tried the Volt with the Kirby in the hose mode,and the NSS M1 it was satisfying to listen to the dirt go thru TWO fans,then into the bag.The Volt could have a great thing going-just that a Monster Vacuum.You have a suction fan in the Volt head-this is close to the floor you are vacuuming-then you have the suction of the "host" vacuum you are using it on.At the Greenville Sewing&Vacuum tried the nozzle on on the "Port-A-Vacs"an MD 650 Central vacuum unit mounted on a janitor cart.Plan of getting one of these for my collection.Used the Volt on that unit and did the whole shop floors-The Volt ate anything in its path.Afterward-felt the bag in the MD vac-it was considerably more full!We can figure the added suction of the Volts fan can make up for losses in the host vacuums hose.And in the Volt operators manual-they tell you to connect the Volt to the host vac before starting it-there is quite an air blast coming out of the Volts wand!Plan to use this machine with my NuTone central vacs-a 450 and 550.So far my experiments have used only one "bar" on the charge indicator of the Volt battery.The large battery can run the unit for a long time-probably an hour continous.The one bar I used accounted for vacuuming the my place,and some experiments.I am going to see how long the battery can last.One bar was used when I vacuumed the vac shop floor.I recharged the machine when I got it home.The vac shop intends to carry these in the future for central customers andn offer it as an option for Port-A-Vacs.Yes,think this nozzle can put a dent in air nozzle sales-and it makes a diffrence-the Volts fan is POWERED-the "fan" in turbine nozzles ROBS power from th host vacuum.The Volt can ADD power to the host machine.


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