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Post# 350286   4/14/2016 at 11:26 (2,905 days old) by brooklynbrook ()        

Hey everyone,

I just found this forum and from a first glance, when it comes to vacuum cleaners, it seems this place has the most knowledgeable community out there. Looking for an advice here.

I live in a ~1300 sq ft apartment, 95% is a hardwood, the other 5% is a rug in a living room and a small rug in one of the bedrooms. I also have a 2 y.o. kid.

The only vacuum cleaner I had was a 79$ BISSELL 9595A, which is a complete garbage. I bought it because of high amazon reviews and threw it out after 2 months or so.

Now I'm looking to buy something better. Much better. Considering Sirena, as I like the water-based filtration. I've never been a Rainbow owner, but I really liked the presentation I saw like a year ago.

The Rainbow's price tag is too high. I was also considering the Dyson Ball Multifloor canister (just because of its suction power), but don't really like the the way to clean it up and feel it's gonna be a mess. I also look for quality and I read that Dyson is a large piece of plastic.

Is there some vacuum cleaner that could also wash? What do you guys think?


Post# 350297 , Reply# 1   4/14/2016 at 12:03 (2,905 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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The Sirena is a water vac like the Rainbow, but that is where the similarities end.

The Sirena build quality and features are far below the Rainbow's.

 

In other words: You get what you pay for!


Post# 350299 , Reply# 2   4/14/2016 at 12:43 (2,905 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

I would recommend that you look at the Simplicity Wonder and the Riccar Prima as alternatives. You really don't have to spend $900+ to get a quality vacuum.

Post# 350300 , Reply# 3   4/14/2016 at 12:44 (2,905 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Dysonman1 would tell you the differences of the sirena to the rainbow. Another thing on dysons is that they are guaranteed to Scratch hardwood floors because they use plastic wheels. I would recommend a canister that have rubber wheels although I don't know which ones have them because I don't pay attention to canister vacuums.

Post# 350301 , Reply# 4   4/14/2016 at 12:53 (2,905 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

Though you do "get what you pay for" the Sirena is not a bad machine. 

A Rainbow it is not, but again not bad.  I personally feel it is a little larger, and heavier than a Rainbow, it doesn't have direct connect wands, and a little more difficult to clean some say, I don't notice it so much.  The basin is really open which makes it easier to get hands and towel inside to wipe it down.

 

The Sirena has a 10 year warranty, has good suction, I'm not in love with the power nozzle, and the hose is relatively short 6ft ( I would prefer a minimum of 8ft.)  Sirena does not have a digital motor, and does not have a shampoo attachment.  The tools supplied are basic, but seem of good quality.  Two sets of extendable wands that together can reach a 12 ft ceiling.

 

The lack of a shampoo attachment did not matter to me, as I have a Hoover Spin Scrub and wouldn't have used it anyway.  Sirena does/can do water pick up.  I look for them to add attachments later on.  Right now they are getting established, and like I said, not a bad machine.   I have had mine since late January, and any problem I had was very quickly addressed by Sirena by email as well as giving directions to the nearest service center if it is required. 

 

I have an older Rainbow (D2 from 1970s) and would love to own a new Rainbow, but my checkbook was not cooperative.  With the Sirena I was able to purchase a new in the box machine with a 10 year warranty for a fraction of the cost of a Rainbow.   I can't vouch if it will last 40 years or more like my Rainbow has, but it is still a good value in my opinion.  I did not spend $900 for mine.  I purchased new in the box, never used for $270 on Ebay w/free shipping and warranty is not hampered by online purchase like Rainbow is.

 

 

 




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Post# 350328 , Reply# 5   4/14/2016 at 20:46 (2,905 days old) by brooklynbrook ()        

Thanks a lot everyone!

@sptyks: well, I see what you mean, but $900 is not just "You get what you pay for", I mean, that is still quite expensive when it comes to vacuum cleaners. At least, that's my feeling.

@ralph123: I took a look at Simplicity/Riccar. Looks like a very good option, I'm strongly considering it right now. I would never end up with Riccar myself. Thanks a lot for the recommendation. I'm 90% convinced to get it from what I've already read, but going to do just a little bit more research to fill the other 10% :)

@panasonicvac: this is an extremely important point you wrote there. I'm pedantic to the quality and state of the hardwood floors, so I'd be hugely disappointed by even minor scratches. Hardwood floor is not something you can easily change by ordering at Amazon.

@Kirbysthebest: thank you for your detailed answer. I've never heard of Hoover before and it seems like a decent option to keep in mind if I ever have more than just an area rug. Do you have any experience with the RIccar Prima by any chance (recommendation from @ralph123)? I wonder what makes Sirena cost ~$900, comparing to $425 Riccar.

Cheers,
Andrew.


Post# 350333 , Reply# 6   4/14/2016 at 21:14 (2,905 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Water vacs....

Now think about using a water based vacuum. Are you really going to want to take it apart, fill it with water, then empty it out, clean it out with a towel, store it separate from the water basin(recommended), maintain the separator, when with a bagged vacuum, you just use it until the bag fills, pull it out, put a new one in! Much more convenient, especially if you're constantly cleaning up behind a 2 yr. old. With the only rugs mentioned, you could do with a mid-size power nozzle for those, and a nice bare floor brush for the rest. Just my two cents worth. I have two Rainbows, both vintage, a D2, and a SE with the later power nozzle. I have used each one of them maybe two or three times, all the time cussing when it came time to dump and clean them out, plus the room it takes to store them off their basin.

Post# 350335 , Reply# 7   4/14/2016 at 21:36 (2,905 days old) by Rvarley (illinois)        
Rainbow

I cant speak to the ease of using a Sirena, but I do have the latest edition Rainbow and don't find cleanup and storage too bad. The best thing about the water filtration vacs is that they never have that nasty stale vacuum stench that no amount of 'magic scented beads' in the bag can cover up. Is the rainbow more work to use than a bagged or bagless vac? Yes, a little bit. I also have a Riccar Prima and must say its a nice little canister for a reasonable price. The mini power nozzle is by far the best I've ever used.

One more nice thing about the Rainbow (which can be bought used on eBay for much less than new) - it can be used for washing floors and carpet. I'm not that impressed with the carpet cleaner, but the bare floor cleaner is nice. And it vacuums up the cleaning solution which removes the dirt and dries the floor. There is also an extra long cleaning hose (12' or 30') available that's really convenient for vacuuming hard to reach places. I use the Rainbow when I have time to do deep cleaning and a lightweight vacuum if I'm in a rush. Don't ask which I'd keep if I was allowed only one :-). No question Rainbow does more than most vacuums.


Post# 350338 , Reply# 8   4/14/2016 at 23:00 (2,905 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI)        
High quality vacuum for Hardwood Floors

And area rugs sounds like the perfect slot for an Aerus Lux Classic canister vacuum. Besides if you're not a vacuum enthusiast like us you will soon tire of wanting to clean out that Sirena or even Rexair/Rainbow for that matter. Bags for an Aerus are one of the most widely available in the industry without having to go to a specialty vacuum store like you might with a Riccar. You can also get those bags in everything from economy 1 ply to the Perfect brand HEPA bags. Just my $0.02. If you really want quality without hassle or much money search "Electrolux 1205" on eBay and find a vintage model in good shape with replacement vinyl hose.

Post# 350358 , Reply# 9   4/15/2016 at 12:06 (2,904 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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I second the Aerus. Been using Aerus Electrolux in my family since 1955

Post# 350364 , Reply# 10   4/15/2016 at 12:48 (2,904 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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The Riccar Prima is an awesome, powerful, light weight vacuum with an exceptional hard wood floor attachment as well as the perfect flip over Dusting Brush/Upholstery Nozzle combination. Hepa bags are NOT expensive and the Hepa exhaust filter give a one/two punch to keep any dust in the machine, and not in your air. The bags are self sealing, so you touch no dirt, breath no dirt, and see no dirt when emptying. The very quiet motor is a pleasure to use, and the variable speed motor means you won't inhale the drapes or throw rugs when cleaning them. You cannot go wrong with the Prima. I've personally sold over a hundred of them to people from all over the country who visit the Vacuum Cleaner Museum/Factory Outlet Store.

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Post# 350393 , Reply# 11   4/15/2016 at 19:33 (2,904 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
vacuum suggestions

I would also suggest a bagged vacuum over water based, I much prefer canisters over uprights. The riccar prima with the mini power nozzle would be a good choice. The Aerus classic is good, though you may have to do some bargaining to get a good price, personally I'm not a fan of price haggling, but Aerus insists on selling their products through the in home method. Sebo also makes some great canister vacuums. If you want a vacuum that looks like the older metal electrolux models, the Perfect canister vacuum is a great choice. Miele also makes some great models, and finally, if you want a decent budget model, check out the Panasonic mc-cg902, mc-cg917 or mc-cg937

Post# 350448 , Reply# 12   4/16/2016 at 16:22 (2,903 days old) by brooklynbrook ()        

I'd go with Riccar Prima, but I'm uncertain because of its emptiness on amazon, ebay, etc. Is it only riccar.com where you can get it? What if there website go down in a few months, where do I buy the vacuum bags?

Post# 350453 , Reply# 13   4/16/2016 at 17:39 (2,903 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Riccar and Simplicity

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Is only sold at independent dealer stores, you cannot get them at any other website except only at riccar or simplicity's website. You can look at the "find dealer" tab on the website to see where you can get them at. You can still get bags on some websites or just at your local dealer store, I get mine at amazon.

Post# 350530 , Reply# 14   4/17/2016 at 20:27 (2,902 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
riccar prima

I would not buy the vacuum from the Riccar web site, you will end up paying the full retail price, you can usually get it from a dealer at a much cheaper price. Tacony, which is the company who makes the Riccar and Simplicity vacuums is a bit behind the times when it comes to selling their products on line, they haven't really embraced that selling model yet. The prima is a great vacuum though, I think hyou would be quite happy with it.

Post# 350534 , Reply# 15   4/17/2016 at 21:37 (2,902 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Tom...Touch No Dirt, See no Dirt, Breath no dirt. Yet another Aerus Electrolux first!

Post# 350557 , Reply# 16   4/18/2016 at 07:50 (2,901 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)        

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Not an aerus first. The sealed self contained 14 layer hepa bag in a canister cleaner was invented and perfected by Air-Way in 1937 with the model 55.

Post# 350559 , Reply# 17   4/18/2016 at 09:47 (2,901 days old) by brooklynbrook ()        

@n0oxy: thanks for the recommendation. Going to a local dealer later this week. Let's see what's gonna be the price here in Brooklyn.

Post# 350626 , Reply# 18   4/18/2016 at 20:14 (2,901 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
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"The bags are self sealing, so you touch no dirt, breath no dirt, and see no dirt when emptying."

"Not an aerus first. The sealed self contained 14 layer hepa bag in a canister cleaner was invented and perfected by Air-Way in 1937 with the model 55."

Not so fast there! You know Andy was referring to the self sealing qualities of the Electrolux Type C bag, not it's filtration. And even if he was referring to the bag's filtration, by the time the 4 ply bags came out in 1955, the Electrolux bags had an advantage over Air Way bags, since the bags not only filtered as well as the Air Way bag but it was also self sealing. And you know perfectly well you borrowed that saying for the Electrolux bags to describe the Riccar Prima bags....after all, you already have said the cordreel design for the Prima & Wonder was inspired by the Electrolux 1205, so why not borrow their saying for the bags.

And one other thing....the Air Way bag is perfect eh? Hmm, so much so that other collectors have said those bags tend to clog prematurely, & you yourself have suggested a few times using a Riccar/Simplicity Type F HEPA bag for the 8 lb upright & a Air Way bag top as a substitute for the Air Way paper bags. If the bag was REALLY perfect, other manufacturers would have copied it long by now, the fact they haven't is proof the design left much to be desired.

Rob


Post# 350631 , Reply# 19   4/18/2016 at 21:08 (2,901 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Rob has hit it right on the nose!

On another note, im buying an Airway Sanitizor. Since they dont make bags, Ill "Pull a Tyler" and use Simplicity Freedom bags with the original Airway Top

...Andy...


Post# 350875 , Reply# 20   4/23/2016 at 11:50 (2,896 days old) by Brooklynbrook ()        

Hey guys, I'm currently in the store and they suggest to get Miele C3 instead of Prima. What do you think? The argument is that some parts of Prima are made in China versus Germany-made Miele.

Post# 350877 , Reply# 21   4/23/2016 at 12:28 (2,896 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Prima vs Miele

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The problem with miele is they are very expensive, you can get the prima for half the price off compare to the C3. Parts are also very expensive to get for the miele for example: If you need a new brushroll for the miele, I hear they are over $100 to replace and I hear rebuilding thr prima's brushroll is like about $20. Attachments for the miele I hear is twice as expensive compare to prima's attachments. And also I hear when you order parts from miele if they are not in stock in the U.S, they take like 3-5 weeks or a month for a part to get here. My vacuum store has a miele in for repair right now that's been sitting for weeks because that part hasn't come in yet and there was one miele before that had been sitting for like almost 2 months that they ended up buying a new vacuum because they were tired of waiting. Riccar/Simplicity parts are alot more cheaper and much faster to get, took me like a week to get parts for my Simplicity. Last I did hear that some miele parts are also made in china as well but that one I don't know if it's fully true. Yes some parts for the prima are made in china but it only like a few of them but everything else is molded and assembled in the U.S

Miele is still a great machine all around but I highly suggest to get the prima instead.


Post# 350880 , Reply# 22   4/23/2016 at 12:54 (2,896 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Don't fall for it! The salesman you are dealing with must be a idiot to say "some" parts of the Riccar Prima are Chinese made....it's ALL made in China, with exception of the powerhead.

As for Miele being German made & that supposedly being an advantage? Well, what your salesman WON'T tell you so easily is that Miele's discontinued designs are sent to be produced in China afterwards. There is currently a couple of S4 models & a S5 model (predecessor to the C3 series) presently being produced in China. So, if they are willing to do that, what would stop them from producing components in China & importing them to Germany for current vacuums? So much for that supposed German made advantage! And also when they state "We produce all the important components in our own factories"....oh really?! Hmm, last time I checked, their powerheads, floor brushes & carpet nozzles are made by Wessell Werk, the hoses are made by Plastiflex, the canister motor is made by Domel, & their bags & filters are produced by BranoFilter, a company that supplies most European vacuum manufacturers. So much for all those "important components" being made by Miele eh?!

I previously owned 2 Miele vacuums, a 2004 Miele S558 Red Velvet with the SEB236 powerhead, & a 2002 Miele S538 Monte Verde with the SEB217 powerhead. The Miele Red Velvet was a total nightmare! The powerhead neck wiring broke TWICE within a span of 5 months, the second neck had been used maybe 7 or 8 times before it broke again. At that point I jury rigged the damn thing & bought a spare wand to use with the floor brush. The final straw a couple of years later came when the cordreel went & the local shop wanted nearly $200 plus tax for a new one, at that point it got pitched!

In contrast, I have owned a Shark Professional EP754 canister, a $260 Chinese made Miele knockoff sold in Canadian Tire, for nearly 7 years now. Not ONCE has this Chinese made cheapie ever broken down with those same problems! I can honestly say it made this $1800 dollar Miele Red Velvet look like a joke in comparison. Now, bear this in mind....the Riccar Prima & this Shark Professional vacuum are both produced by KingClean in China, under contract to their respective companies. Go ahead & do some digging around....the powerhead necks are VERY similar....and notice that the Riccar 1500P, a previous model, used the exact same hose handle the Shark did. And the tools used on previous Riccar & Simplicity models, such as the Simplicity Jill, Riccar Sunburst, Simplicity Jack, Riccar Moonlight, Simplicity Cinch, Simplicity Verve & Riccar Pristine, those are all the same tools used in other vacuums produced by KingClean for other companies....the Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Edition canister & a Dirt Devil Jaguar canister being a couple of examples here.

And one important point here about filtration. Your salesman may have told you, or you may have heard it from others, that Miele has a better filtration system. Yes, it's true. BUT what your salesman won't tell you is that Miele is cheating in comparison to other European & Asian vacuum companies. For one, the Miele bags are overbuilt in comparison to other companies bags, they are 9 ply bags whereas most other bags are 5 ply. And in addition, a couple of years ago, the European EN1822 HEPA Filtation standard was changed, from 99.97% @ 0.03 micron efficiency, to 99.97% @ 0.02 micron efficiency - Miele is meeting this new HEPA Filtration standard for their HEPA filters, whereas everyone else is meeting the old standard. So ya sure, Miele is technically better at filtration, but let's face it - is that REALLY going to make a difference to most allergy suffers? No. You can live with the old HEPA Filtration standard the Riccar Prima meets & be perfectly fine.

If I was you, go ahead & tell this Miele salesman to take his opinion & stuff it, & buy the Riccar Prima. If a $260 Chinese made Miele copy can outlast a Miele & clean just as well, I certainly wouldn't buy a Miele! It's obvious to me the ONLY reason this asshole wants you to buy Miele is he makes more profit off Miele than he does Riccar.

Best of luck to you.

Rob


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Post# 350882 , Reply# 23   4/23/2016 at 13:08 (2,896 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Hmm I thought the prima body was made in the U.S like all other Tacony canisters since they moved the prodution line of canisters from Korea back to the U.S

I guess not.


Post# 350883 , Reply# 24   4/23/2016 at 13:16 (2,896 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Andrew,  You will be sorry if you buy the Miele. Not only will you pay double what it's worth, but like Alex said you could wait several weeks to get parts for it.

 

The Riccar Prima is a Quality machine throughout. Even though they are primarily made in China, each machine is disassembled, inspected for quality materials and workmanship and reassembled at the Tacony plant in Missouri. Each machine must meet the same high quality standards as Tacony's top of the line models which are completely made in the U.S.

 


Post# 350884 , Reply# 25   4/23/2016 at 13:30 (2,896 days old) by Brooklynbrook ()        

The price is pretty much the same.500 for Prima with compact power nozzle and 550ish for Miele C3 (I guess without the electric brush).

Yes, he told me about the Miele's better filtration.

I have a suspicious about Miele, because he said that they provide Miele services and the whole store has Miele's labels around. But nevertheless, C3 is not a bad machine, from what I can see. Hmmmmmmm... I gotta get smth, my wife is waiting for a vacuum cleaner :-)


Post# 350885 , Reply# 26   4/23/2016 at 13:55 (2,896 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Andrew

See, did I not just say above that the dealer is pushing Miele because he makes more profit on it? You just proved it! The guy is pushing Miele because that's his main bread & butter & carries a higher profit margin, heck he has even built his whole store around the brand! So why would you continue to believe ANYTHING this sleazy con artist is telling you when he is telling you the truth about only ONE brand, the one he makes more profit on? He doesn't want a informed consumer & a happy customer, he just wants his sleazy quick buck & move on to the next sucker.

Go ahead & get the Miele if you like. But be warned, you WILL have problems with it, & you WILL regret your purchase! And like Alex said above, don't be surprised if you have long waits in the repair shop for parts. There are other brands that offer the same quality, & better value for money, than Miele. Even if you don't buy Riccar or Simplicity.

Rob


Post# 350893 , Reply# 27   4/23/2016 at 18:23 (2,896 days old) by speedqueen (Harrison Twp MI)        
With money and Origin in question, I Repeat...

An old metal Electrolux of 1205-Grand Marquis design, The Power nozzle is indestructible on all models, belts last 5+ years without slipping. Powerful, durable, quiet, long wearing motor. Ease of finding bags. Found easily and cheaply on eBay. Common sense attachment designs, there is a reason the Prima copies the dusting brush/upholstery tool.

***It is ALL made in USA, not China***


Post# 350921 , Reply# 28   4/24/2016 at 10:16 (2,895 days old) by rvarley (illinois)        
Miele bashing

Mieles don't seem particularly popular on this site. Price of the machine and parts is often brought up.

I have owned 3 Mieles and 3 Riccar / Simplicity vacuums and each have pros and cons.

For Mieles, I've had 2 of the top end canisters - one bought new 20 years ago and a second bought new about 10 years ago. The only problem I had with them was the first canister had a problem with the cord winder after about 10 years. Yes, the replacement part was expensive, but I fixed it myself without actually replacing the part. Since I had already bought a new Miele, I sold the older one on Craigslist for an unbelievable price (high) and it sold instantly.

The second Miele canister, again, the top end model, gave me no problems at all in 10 years. Yes, attachments and consumables are expensive. I bought a Prima and since I was unemployed while retraining, decided I didn't need the Miele and again sold at a very high price and it sold instantly.

Both Mieles were the quietest vacuums I've ever owned and I find the design of the canister and all the parts to be sleek and attractive. The body is not painted plastic (like the Tacony vacuums) and the colors are attractive.

The third Miele was the swivel neck upright. This one got me started on vacuum collecting. I have no idea why. It had a slick looking design and was quiet. But it was a bit heavy and I just wasn't crazy about it, so I sold it. Again, it sold quickly and for a high price.

The three Tacony's I've had are as follows. Please forgive me if I don't recall the exact model numbers for all of them (or the Mieles).

I bought the top end upright twin fan model used. It was an ugly metallic root beer color and the plastic was painted. The machine was loud, heavy and the design looked clunky. Yes, it cleans just fine, but I don't like it and am currently trying to sell it. I have had no interest from the craigslist ad despite the fact that it is listed at a substantial discount (way cheaper than the Mieles). On the plus side, the horse hair brush is nice.

A family member gave me the light weight Simplicity model, I think it was the 3500. It was not running well and had been used in a house full of pets. I cleaned it up and was amazed out how pleasant it was to use and that it did a great job cleaning. In fact, I liked it so much, I bought the newest highend equivalent of the 3500 (Riccar this time) and I like that one even better. I sold the old one for $60 bucks and it sold quickly. Again, both were painted plastic. And both are not quiet. But for quick cleanups, nothing I've ever had can compare.

Finally, I bought a new Prima (yeah, I know we're up to 4 Taconys). The design of the canister is not as sleek and nice as the Miele canisters. It's pained a not particularly attractive color. Tacony really should hire someone with a sense of design. And it is not as quiet as the Mieles (though it's by no means noisy). There is a lot of griping about Miele canister tools being too small. But they fit inside body of the machine and never fall off. The Miele bag is bigger than the Prima's and the bodies are the same size. How Miele managed to get the bigger bag and onboard tool storage to work in a package the same size as the Prima is impressive. The tools fall off the Prima regularly. And yes, I do know how to attache them securely.

With all these gripes, you'd think I don't like the Prima. Actually, it's a good little vac and compliments the light weight Riccar upright well. It's not too noisy, it's got good suction and the tools are good. The mini power nozzle never bogs down. The wands snap together smoothly and the power head raises and lowers smoothly (Miele mechanism was not smooth). And the hose is a bit longer on the Prima. The pricing on the Prima is much better than the high end Miele.

If money isn't a huge concern, Miele makes a very slick machine. It's quiet, nice to look at and feels like a quality piece. It also has great 'resale-ability'. Members seem to love the luxes and Rainbows and they are every bit as expensive as Miele.

My current pair of Tacony's do the job well and I'm happy with them. I just think there are a few lessons Tacony could learn by taking a good, long look at the Miele designs. At the very least, no more ugly metallic colors. Next time you're picking colors, think Mercedes (understated, classy) instead of hot rod or SEMA car.


Post# 350964 , Reply# 29   4/25/2016 at 10:33 (2,894 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Andrew - rather than picking out a vacuum for your wife, why don't you let her pick now that you've done the research and can help guide her? If she's going to use it, it's best to make sure she likes it. Best of luck.

Post# 350974 , Reply# 30   4/25/2016 at 14:37 (2,894 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Andrew

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If your store offers out loans and you are still not sure what to get, I would suggest to try them both in your home to see which one you would like better between the Prima and the C3.

Wish the best of luck.


Post# 350983 , Reply# 31   4/25/2016 at 15:13 (2,894 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

Very good advice from Alex, "panasonicvac".  Test drive before you buy.

 


Post# 351130 , Reply# 32   4/27/2016 at 20:42 (2,892 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Go for the Prima!!! Parts are very easy to get because the Tacony factory is in the U.S. The machine was designed and engineered in the U.S. If by some off the wall chance an elbow broke on the power head, it won't cost you $100+ plus like it would on the Meile and I've heard the Miele elbows do break easy. Miele parts and tools and amazingly costly!!

The Prima is whisper quiet, Class A filtration, the bags do self seal-- I've seen with the fancy plastic closure system, and excellent HEPA grade. The wheels are soft gel base off what is on roller blades. Really a cool design!! You and your wife will be impressed, but take her along to test drive it at the store too!



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