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Post# 347467   3/13/2016 at 19:02 (2,964 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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I was wondering if any of the rainbow dealers or experts may know when the next rainbow is arriving? It seems like the current model has been around for some time now.
I'm thinking about going down to my local distributor this week and buying one. My luck, as soon as the 3 day cooling down period is over, the next generation with come out.


Post# 347533 , Reply# 1   3/14/2016 at 13:53 (2,963 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )        

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What more can they do with it? I think they have dobe everything they can. I do think they could make it a little smaller and rounder. Something lkke the D4C models. The current ones seem to big almost and look hard to pull around and store.

Post# 347534 , Reply# 2   3/14/2016 at 14:03 (2,963 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

We are uncertain of when the new machine will arrive however we usually find out when new things come out when the world meeting comes about. I have heard that there might be some new attachments. Again not too sure but that is what I have heard. The new rainbow is rather easy to pull and as far as storage I usually let mine run after use to continue cleaning the air, the rest of the machine (power nozzle and hose) gets stored away. It would definitely be worth it if you want the new rainbow, it does an amazing job on various carpet types, all floors and surfaces.

Post# 347535 , Reply# 3   3/14/2016 at 14:05 (2,963 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

Btw there might be a way that I can get you a good deal on a new rainbow from the store I work for, please email me or shoot me a call or text.
Email is magvac1004@yahoo.com
Phone is 607-242-9708


Post# 347549 , Reply# 4   3/14/2016 at 16:00 (2,963 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

When I attended my local home show, I was told that Rainbow has made some improvements to the current model. They claimed they had modified the software to make the machine adjust better to different carpet types, particularly the plush carpet.

I know that the power nozzle was modified at some point to move the belt from the center to the side on the power nozzle.

I would try to make sure you get the latest version of the current model. It will likely be a very long time before the next model arrives - but I have no inside information. Perhaps an insider could let us know about any changes that have been made recently...


Post# 347557 , Reply# 5   3/14/2016 at 17:08 (2,963 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )        
Rainbow

I do know that Rainbow has added new attachments throughout the run of the current model (Minijet comes to mind) and they also changed the Power nozzle as stated above. Around the same time the Power Nozzle changed, the red indicator light was added next to the hose port. 

I could see Rainbow potentially downsizing the machine, as there is quite a lot of dead space inside the body. However, I really have no problem with the vacuum the way it is currently. The cord could be longer, but the longer hose and improved power nozzle, along with the updated dolly really improved the system. 


Post# 347559 , Reply# 6   3/14/2016 at 17:28 (2,963 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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I've heard others saying,they wish had it had a little more power. I'm sure it's sufficient. It seems like most canisters today are cracking the 100" water lift mark. I'm surprised a rainbow is hovering in the 80's.

Post# 347573 , Reply# 7   3/14/2016 at 19:07 (2,963 days old) by kenkart ()        
Compared to

The old ones it is a regular jet!! Seriously, the new Rainbow is plenty powerful enough!

Post# 347575 , Reply# 8   3/14/2016 at 19:21 (2,963 days old) by rvarley (illinois)        
rainbow suction

@kencart - I would have to disagree with you about the suction. I own the latest version and although I really like the machine, it does not have great suction.

I vacuum a lot and it is not a machine I'd take out for daily use. Setup and cleanup takes to long for a quick run-through.

But aside from a central vac located in the garage, it's the only vac that never smells bad and in fact freshens the air as you use it. And not with that fake 'I added a scent to cover up the bad smell' that one gets by adding vacuum beads to the bag.


Post# 347585 , Reply# 9   3/14/2016 at 20:41 (2,963 days old) by kenkart ()        
Well....

The new ones have almost twice the power the old ones did, they never were as strong as a Compact or Filter Queen.

Post# 347590 , Reply# 10   3/14/2016 at 21:50 (2,963 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

the only improvements rainbow has actually made within the last couple of years is the circuit board, there have been revisions of the board due to some failures, we have not had many come back through to the service dept for warranty repair. most of the issues that I come across on the boards are the thermistors and once in a great while a bad capacitor but again those issues are in a lot of the older models. the new boards are a lot simpler in the way they are built and I think the new machine has a faster start up than previous models. another change is the upper bearing on the armature, with the older E2 machines such as the blue or as some call it the silver I have had incidents where the armature was hollowing out where the bearing sits and the bearings were not even seized, again that has been changed, it almost seems as if the material for the bearing shell has been modified other than that the machine is flawless.

Post# 347636 , Reply# 11   3/15/2016 at 15:52 (2,962 days old) by kenkart ()        
The E2

since being introduced is the strongest Rainbow ever made, the older models did ok, but were really weak, I sold D-3s in the 80s.

Post# 347641 , Reply# 12   3/15/2016 at 16:26 (2,962 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
When the new Rainbow

arrives, can one of you please post a picture?

Post# 347644 , Reply# 13   3/15/2016 at 17:19 (2,962 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

I will absolutely do that!!! our World Meeting is in June in Thailand we will know more about new products then!

Post# 347650 , Reply# 14   3/15/2016 at 18:38 (2,962 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

I can't see a new Rainbow coming out soon. They just came out with a bunch of new features on the last one. I'd probably buy a Rainbow just to get the shampoo system...

Post# 347786 , Reply# 15   3/17/2016 at 07:36 (2,960 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        
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I wasn't aware of any of these problems with Rainbow. I have a gold 2 speed brand new from 2006 with the foam insulation, and the suction is perfectly fine. I do know what you mean about it not being as strong as other vacuums, but it's still has plenty of airflow for cleaning. I'm sure they will find a way to make it stronger in the future. I think, as of now, they have to limit it or else water will get sucked through the separator (at least that's what I read a long time ago) And the smell, I LOVE the smell.

Regarding a new model. After they introduced this latest model, I too was wondering what else they could do? They have pretty much addressed things people didn't like about it...

You should try using another water filtration vacuum like Sirena or Hyla for a week or two. When you go back to using your rainbow, you'll feel like you're going back to a regular vacuum for quick run through's in terms of cleaning up/storage.

My Sirena just isn't as easy to put together,clean, put away as my rainbow. It takes me twice as long with the Sirena. I quit using it and stored it away. I now use my Rainbow.


Post# 347795 , Reply# 16   3/17/2016 at 10:01 (2,960 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I see nothing wrong with 90 inches of water lift and constant airflow. That's what my 75th Anniversary Edition Rainbow (2011) has, which is plenty. Rexair takes a long time to retire a model, consider the D4, (as well as the D4SE and D4PE) were basically the same vacuum cleaner - and Rexair made that machine from 1986 (their 50th anniversary) through 1998. I doubt there's a new Rainbow coming any time soon. Rexair just doesn't work that way.

Post# 347803 , Reply# 17   3/17/2016 at 10:26 (2,960 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
90 inches sounds

very good for a portable vacuum. A good central vac can be as little as 115 inches.

Post# 347806 , Reply# 18   3/17/2016 at 11:39 (2,960 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

Tom

Do you know what the current model's CFM is?  I know the D2 had something like 60 CFM, and did quit a good job cleaning just the same.

 

 


In comparison the Sirena has:

86.3 in. water lift

90 CFM High, 18 CFM low. 

 

I am sure the newer Rainbows have more.

 


Post# 347823 , Reply# 19   3/17/2016 at 17:07 (2,960 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )        

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Also tom, how is the suction with the 14.5' hose installed.

Post# 347836 , Reply# 20   3/17/2016 at 20:31 (2,960 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I have a single speed E series. I'm not impressed with the air flow or suction with that one. The only time that improves is if you remove the hepa filter. I have cleaned the filter and may need to buy a new one. Thankfully I only use it to vacuum the halls in the building I live in during the winter months. My Mother has an E 2 and I can't say that I have been impressed with that one either.

Post# 348048 , Reply# 21   3/20/2016 at 08:19 (2,957 days old) by Electroluxxxx (……)        

From experience with the 14.5' hose there seems to be no noticeable difference in airflow or suction, with the 30' hose the air flow is a little less but still enough to do the job.


Post# 348583 , Reply# 22   3/26/2016 at 01:01 (2,952 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
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I've used many many canister vacuums. The Rainbow is not the strongest of them but it certainly is not the weakest. I owned the newest Rainbow E2 Type 12 and it is significantly improved over previous versions.

Carpet grooming performance is beautiful.

That said I did have issues with the HEPA filter on mine. It would get clogged and DRASTICALLY cut down power. The distributor I worked for that I bought it from too didn't even really understand the issue of the HEPA clogging so he installed a new one for me on the machine, on the house.

It very well could be an issue with hard water in the house. I had terrible issues of scaling on the basin and separator. A hot water Vinegar soak was the best way I found at removing the scale. Dawn nor other dish detergents did anything for it.

About every 2 weeks I had to soak my separator, the nut and basin to the rim in hot water with about 8 ounces of white vinegar.

I would also recommend checking your HEPA.

I hope this helps you because in my experience of vacuums, this Rainbow really did impress me. Comparatively there are TONS of machines over the years I've tried and refuse to work with due to not meeting my fussy cleaning performance desires!!


Post# 348593 , Reply# 23   3/26/2016 at 02:33 (2,952 days old) by Rvarley (illinois)        

@durango159

I don't recall saying that the power head on the rainbow was not good, though I will say it seems very gentle and those side brushes get damaged unless I store mine with the brushes off the floor. And there is no height adjustment.

Yes, I agree that Rainbow has adequate power, but it isn't great. A member of this forum recently did a test of rainbow and several other well known brands, both suction and air flow. Rainbow was at or near the bottom of the pack in every test. Wish I could locate the thread. I do not have hard water, scaling or a clogged filter. And I don't dislike the machine. It just takes some setup time and does not have super suction. it has a great selection of tools and does things other vacuums can't do such as washing floors and wet pickup. But I will say, in my experience, the shampooer isn't as good as a dedicated Hoover steam vac. It doesn't scrub very well, gets clogged gunked up with dog hair and the water retrieval is hampered by the middling suction.

I like the machine. It does many things and doesn't stink like dry vacuums. It's just not for everyday, quick use and it's not a powerhouse. Mine will not be leaving my collection anytime soon.


Post# 348596 , Reply# 24   3/26/2016 at 05:14 (2,951 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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The E2 Black Rainbow has 3 different kinds of brush rolls, soft, medium, and stiff the last time I checked. I believe the one it comes with is the medium brush roll.



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Post# 348628 , Reply# 25   3/26/2016 at 14:36 (2,951 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
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You are correct!

What you stated is actually something that amazes me. I used to sell these machines and my distributor never informed myself or anyone else that I'm aware of to this fact!!

It was only a few weeks that a collector on a Facebook site mentioned that he got a new brush roll for his new style Rainbow power nozzle. Goodvac.com is the website that lists the various options.

Would have been nice of my former Rainbow distributor to inform us of more info regarding the machines and options available!!! I do not regret leaving the crooked jerks.


Post# 348635 , Reply# 26   3/26/2016 at 16:56 (2,951 days old) by Rvarley (illinois)        

Good to know about the brush rolls. Are those side brushes (the ones like a street sweeper) also replacable?

Post# 348658 , Reply# 27   3/26/2016 at 20:49 (2,951 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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Yes they are available, long and short.

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Post# 348659 , Reply# 28   3/26/2016 at 20:57 (2,951 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Yes the side brushes are available as well. $3.70 from Goodvac website. I posted a link below to the power nozzle parts page on their site.

I tried the Aquamate carpet shampooing on one demo. It did a reasonable job but was multiple steps with the operation and not as efficient as my Hoover Steamvac Widepath. I would agree to that.

I would hope that after a good vacuuming the Aquamate wouldn't find much if any doghair. So I'm surprised that is an issue you're having with it!! In my experience a thorough pre-vacuuming is one of the most important steps of the carpet shampooing process. Sometimes I use 2 vacuums.

You are lucky with not having a hard water issue. It's definitely an experience with the Rainbow that definitely lets a user know how hard or soft the house water is.


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Post# 348660 , Reply# 29   3/26/2016 at 21:01 (2,951 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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