Thread Number: 31250
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Royal 886 or Royal Classic 4000? |
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Post# 345681 , Reply# 1   2/28/2016 at 10:40 (2,951 days old) by toastermike (Milwaukie Oregon)   |   | |
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Either model would be a great cleaner. From my experience, comparing the two comes down to the motors. I believe the 4000 has a 10.5amp motor and they are extremely powerful but also extremely noisy screamers! I have an earlier 886 from 1987. It has a 6 amp motor that I find to be great balance between excellent power, quietness, and weight. My 886 is one of my favorite Royals to use because it is effortless and relaxing to use.
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Post# 345692 , Reply# 2   2/28/2016 at 12:24 (2,951 days old) by william (Philadelphia)   |   | |
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Very helpful answer. Yes. You are dead on regarding the amps for both. Anyone know the year that the Classic 4000 was produced? Hope it was made in the USA and not overseas. Bill |
Post# 345696 , Reply# 3   2/28/2016 at 13:04 (2,951 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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I believe the Royal 4000 was made 1995 - 2001. I think this is the last Royal to be made in the USA, as production moved to China in 2002.
You can read more here:
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Post# 345706 , Reply# 4   2/28/2016 at 14:22 (2,951 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 345743 , Reply# 5   2/28/2016 at 22:13 (2,951 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 345788 , Reply# 7   2/29/2016 at 11:59 (2,950 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 345889 , Reply# 8   3/1/2016 at 06:15 (2,949 days old) by william (Philadelphia)   |   | |
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Very Interesting. I would have thought the value relationship would have put off more people. Considering Kirbys cost $1000 or more, people are willing to spend that much? Royals I think are several hundred but could be mistaken. Bill |
Post# 345937 , Reply# 9   3/1/2016 at 12:48 (2,949 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Bill,
Kirby's are sold only door to door for $1500 - $2000 but the salesman will offer an attractive financing program if the buyer screams "I can't afford that".
Royal's are sold only at vacuum stores that are also Royal dealerships for $500 - $750.
Kirby's come with an extensive assortment of attachments including the famous Kirby rug shampoo and hard floor care system.
Royals do not come with any attachments but an attachment kit is sold separately for around $100. |
Post# 346059 , Reply# 12   3/2/2016 at 14:25 (2,948 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Bill, if it was me, I would choose the Classic 4000.
Why? Well, the 4000 would have a bit more power than the 880, as that's when they started increasing the motor's power & also made changes to the metal fan design. Also, as Ben, KirbyClassicIII pointed out in another recent post, the carbon brushes for the 880 are now NLA, whereas they are still available for the drop-in motor the 4000 uses. Assuming here you are buying this vacuum to use for daily cleaning & not for collecting purposes, the first thing you are going to want to do with the 880 is change the carbon brushes, with how old it is it may just very well be due for them. Considering you can still buy carbons for the 4000 & also buy a spare set to have on hand in the future & be able to maintain & repair it, that would be my choice. As for the attachment sets, be warned that those are NLA from Royal, & have been that way for a while now. I was able to find a set available from The Henry Company though, as well as carbon brushes for the drop in motors. If you want the attachment set, you had better jump on it QUICK, because I guarantee you if you don't, you will not be able to find it elsewhere very easily. Rob vacpartsplusstore.com/catalog/ind... vacpartsplusstore.com/catalog/ind... |
Post# 346271 , Reply# 13   3/4/2016 at 11:47 (2,946 days old) by william (Philadelphia)   |   | |
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Bought the deluxe upright Attachment kit. With initial 10% off got it for 80 bucks! Thanks to you! Now all I need is to find a carbon fiber replacement brush roll for the 886. Wondering why they switched to wood. Bill |
Post# 346390 , Reply# 14   3/5/2016 at 14:49 (2,945 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Bill,
I don't think I've ever seen a carbon fiber brush roll for any of the Royals. Just about every high end vacuum including Kirby uses wooden brush rolls. Wood is used because it is not only light weight but offers an anti-slip surface for the flat rubber belts that Kirbys and Royals use.
The exception would be the high end Riccar and Simplicity vacs which have metal brush rolls and use a serpentine or toothed belt. Carbon fiber bush rolls are used in Dyson and many other bagless vacuums that used toothed belts.
Kirby and Royal used to paint their brush rolls silver/gray but they were still made out of wood. All Royal and Kirby brush rolls are now unpainted natural wood. |
Post# 346554 , Reply# 16   3/6/2016 at 23:18 (2,944 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 346560 , Reply# 18   3/7/2016 at 00:52 (2,944 days old) by chicagomike (Plover, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 346621 , Reply# 19   3/7/2016 at 11:56 (2,943 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Mike,
The 886 and 887 were both introduced in 1987 and originally came with light blue trim. This is what the 886 looked like before 1991. ~Ben
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Post# 346624 , Reply# 20   3/7/2016 at 12:40 (2,943 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Mike,
Here's a list I created about Royal upright vacuums and the years made: www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... Please forgive any errors. ~Ben |
Post# 346651 , Reply# 21   3/7/2016 at 15:22 (2,943 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Hans,
Just FYI I bought a Royal Everlast 8300 made in 2008. Yes, it was made in China but you could not tell the difference between my MRY8300 and any Royal made in the late 90's in the USA. The quality of materials and workmanship is THAT GOOD.
This machine has a 10 amp motor, and yes it is a bit loud, but it deep cleans as well or maybe even better than my Kirby Sentria.
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Post# 347173 , Reply# 23   3/11/2016 at 18:02 (2,939 days old) by chicagomike (Plover, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 347185 , Reply# 24   3/11/2016 at 19:06 (2,939 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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