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self propelled power nozzle?
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Post# 344578   2/18/2016 at 19:37 (2,960 days old) by jill1990 ()        

Last weekend we went to my boyfriend's grandmas to paint. We moved the sofa and found a bunch of dust bunnies and other dirt so she got out her vacuum. It's a Panasonic canister with a powernozzle. The power nozzle looked rather big and it was really heavy. Once I turned it on I noticed the power nozzle would kind of jump forward and then jump backwards as you pushed it. The motor of the powernozzle would also change sound every time it jerked forward and backward. I said I thought something was wrong with it but she said it was supposed to do that and it was self propelled. She said thats why she bought it. The only self propelled vacuum I have ever used was a Kirby. That powernozzle did not feel self propelled. It just kind of jumped. It really didn't clean that well either. It took 2 or 3 passes for it to pick everything up. I don't know what model it was. She said she had had it for 20 years. It was brown and white. It was square with 3 speed buttons on top and it had a hose that swiveled all the way around. The powernozzle was big, quite heavy and had a full width headlight. I will say the vacuum was very quiet. My question is why would someone make a self propelled powernozzle? I mean how hard is a powernozzle to push?

Post# 344581 , Reply# 1   2/18/2016 at 20:31 (2,960 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        
Jet Flo Dual Sweep

It's what they called dual sweep, I have one. There is a switch down at the elbow that when pushed forward it spins the brush forward and when you pull back it revolves the brush roll backwards. They didn't really deep clean well but should get the stuff you were talking about up in one pass. Those jet flo's were very strong, so there must be something wrong with hers. The suction on mine is equal to many new vacs.

Post# 344585 , Reply# 2   2/18/2016 at 21:58 (2,960 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
pushing a power nozzle

Interesting that this topic came up. I have all hard floors in my apartment but I do have area rugs outside the door. To clean these, I do keep some power nozzle canisters around. Had the Perfect power team vacuum out tonight to do that, and I noticed when the power nozzle was on, it was much easier to move accross the rug than when the brush was not spinning. I wouldn't call it self propeled, but the spinning brush definitely made it easier to move around, and I could tell it pulled quite a bit of dirt out of that rug.

Post# 344602 , Reply# 3   2/19/2016 at 06:28 (2,960 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Jill, n0xy,

That's the Panasonic dual path power nozzle. It runs in both forward, pauses when you stop, and reverses when you pull backward.
Very quiet, well made. However, most say the standard power nozzle picks up better.
n0xy, when the belts are newer, and the brush roll bearings turning freely, most do move along somewhat on their own.


Post# 344936 , Reply# 4   2/22/2016 at 14:39 (2,956 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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One problem with the Dual Sweep and standard power nozzles that came on models of that series was the belt. The air flow and suction from those canisters is very very powerful and pulls the power head very close to the rug which stalls the belt. Belts need to replaced about every 2 months on those units. The power head feels self propelled because of the brush roll. Power nozzles are lightweight so you can feel the brush roll pulling the machine much more than with an upright.


Post# 344949 , Reply# 5   2/22/2016 at 16:15 (2,956 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
belts on pnasonic power nozzles

Rob, even on low suction? Oh, those vac's have the nozzles only switched on, on high, don't they?
Suppose you open the handle suction shutter?


Post# 345185 , Reply# 6   2/23/2016 at 23:36 (2,955 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Excellent Question!

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Here is what I know:

Those canisters have 4 suction settings: Curtains, Upholstery, Rugs, Rugs with Full Power. The power nozzle will only operate in Rugs or Rugs with Full Power mode. In the standard Rugs mode, it is much easier on the power nozzle and still absolute significant power.

My family used to own model MC9527 which had a gas pump handle with no operator controls on the handle. There was no suction regulator valve on the model we had either. Only way to control the air flow was with the 4 electronic buttons.

I know some other models had a different hose option. It's possible those had a suction regulator valve??? It would be interesting to see some photos from others or an actual Panasonic catalog photo with specs of differences between model ranges!

Attached below are 2 photos I took while actually ironically using another collectors MC9527. Ironic because my family used to own one and then I meet a collector with the same exact model!! Unfortunately the hose handle didn't make the photo!!



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Post# 345194 , Reply# 7   2/24/2016 at 02:09 (2,955 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Yep, that's the one!

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Panasonic at their very best. A very quiet, modern, durable, full-featured beast, with excellent tools, and an innovative power nozzle. I own one and it's one of my favorites!

Post# 347044 , Reply# 8   3/11/2016 at 09:51 (2,938 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
sebo power nozzle almost wants to run away

So I tried my Sebo et2 power head paired up with my Riccar Prima on my area rugs. Wow! It has 4 height adjustments. On setting 4, the brush was barely touching the rug and the light indicated that I should try the next setting, number 3 got it a bit lower, but once I got to number 2, the thing was practically self propelled, moving the nozzle was really easy, I actually had to hold on to it to keep it from sliding around a bit. Perhaps the brush on this nozzle spins faster than some of the other power heads, I really think if I had let go it would have actually rolled away.

Post# 347080 , Reply# 9   3/11/2016 at 14:43 (2,938 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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Some power nozzles need air holes, which could be drilled, to feed the air stream.  This would keep the nozzle from becoming stuck to the carpet.



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