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Post# 343445   2/10/2016 at 21:45 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Well it's finally time to join the club here. I've done a bit of cleaning over the weekend so I thought I might as well go ahead and show off my collection. This is not all of it, this is just what I have at my house so far and I'll go over my storage shed the next day and show a few more there, and hopefully by the end of this week I will go over to my other storage shed and show off what's left.

These are taken from my phone and it's pretty bad quality, my apologies cause my actual camera is currently down at the moment.


Post# 343446 , Reply# 1   2/10/2016 at 21:56 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Panasonics:

MC-V7387
MC-V7368
MC-V7305
MC-V5355
MC-V5107
MC-6220
Kenmore Progressive 100
Kenmore Progressive with direct drive
Kenmore Progressive
Sharp Twin Energy commercial EC-14TXC (Not a Panasonic)
MC-CG381


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Post# 343447 , Reply# 2   2/10/2016 at 21:58 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Kirby Heritage 2 Turbo and DS80

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Post# 343448 , Reply# 3   2/10/2016 at 22:01 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Simplicity Freedom (which I might sell)
Simplicity 7300
Bissell little green
Dirt Devil Dynamite (which I might sell)
Kirby Tradition attachments (which I might sell)


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Post# 343449 , Reply# 4   2/10/2016 at 22:05 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Sanitaire SC886
Kenmore Professional 12" (Sebo)
Bissell 8 amp upright
Hoover Windtunnel Self Propelled Ultra


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Post# 343450 , Reply# 5   2/10/2016 at 22:06 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Fantom Fury 10 amp (was a orange 12 amp fury)
Dirt Devil Featherlite


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Post# 343451 , Reply# 6   2/10/2016 at 22:09 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Eureka The Boss Plus
Eureka Power Plus Victory
Kenmore Powercenter (Panasonic) (which I might sell)


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Post# 343452 , Reply# 7   2/10/2016 at 22:09 (2,969 days old) by UniversalDave1 (Gardendale, AL)        

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I have the same Jet Flo in the left of the second photo.

Post# 343453 , Reply# 8   2/10/2016 at 22:11 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Black and Decker Dirtvac
Kirby Split Second 12 voltage car vac
Black and Decker Dustbuster (which no longer works)


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Post# 343454 , Reply# 9   2/10/2016 at 22:14 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Central Vacuum (The main vacuum)

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Post# 343455 , Reply# 10   2/10/2016 at 22:16 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Shop Vac
POS Hoover Floormate


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Post# 343456 , Reply# 11   2/10/2016 at 22:18 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Hoover Steamvac with clean surge
Hoover Steamvac
Hoover Steamvac Widepath
Bissell Proheat 2X


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Post# 343457 , Reply# 12   2/10/2016 at 22:20 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Not pictured in house...

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Another Sanitaire and a POS Dirt Devil Acucharge cordless hand vac

Post# 343459 , Reply# 13   2/10/2016 at 22:41 (2,969 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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So that's about it at my house and hopefully I will finish off the rest of my collection this week.

Intro: I loved Vacuums ever since I got my first toy Dirt Devil for Chirstmas at the age of 1. My favorite is Panasonic because I grew up around with them and it will always be my favorite of all time.
My favorite type of vacuum are what you call metal bypass uprights which are like the ones you would find at a vacuum store like Panasonic, Tacony(Riccar or Simplicity), Dust care(Evolution or Cirrus), Sanyo and Sharp but out of all oh those brands I would perfer Panasonic.
I also like older vacuums like Elites, Bravos, Dirt Devil MVPs or such on.
I also like I guess I would call like old school vacuums which includes the newer versions today like Electrolux(Aerus), Kirby, Royal, Rainbow, Filter queen, Eureka(Sanitaire version), or Hoover commercial vacs.
I really really like central vacs, I would never live in a house without one.

That's about what I can think of at the moment, I do have Youtube and I am planning on posting videos of my vacuums once my camera is fixed but I think I would perfer just showing the ones you would request for me to do that I can do on a weekend when I'm not doing anything else (unless I'm selling one of mine I can show off before it's gone).


Post# 343474 , Reply# 14   2/11/2016 at 07:30 (2,969 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

I would love to buy that kenmore professional 12 if you want to sell it at any point

Post# 343478 , Reply# 15   2/11/2016 at 08:29 (2,968 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
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Actually my great aunt I believe still has one of these and if she passes away and if I can my hands on it, I could sell my other one to you so I'll let know on that.

Post# 343529 , Reply# 16   2/11/2016 at 14:31 (2,968 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)        

Ok thanks

Post# 343547 , Reply# 17   2/11/2016 at 15:48 (2,968 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Continuing on...

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Made it to my storage shed today although there's only a few here.

Eureka Optima we use in our camping trailer about once a year at least.


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Post# 343548 , Reply# 18   2/11/2016 at 15:52 (2,968 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Central Vacuum #2

Eureka The Boss

You may notice there are two of these here although one of them is actually our neighbor's because we both share the shed together (It's actually too big that we couldn't use only one system here). The one with the snow ball on top is my neighbor's.


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Post# 343597 , Reply# 19   2/12/2016 at 06:10 (2,968 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hi Alex...welcome to Vacuumland!

I think that Kenmore Power Centre upright you have was made by Whirlpool, not Panasonic.

I have been intrigued by the transition Sears made from Whirlpool to Panasonic as the primary maker of Kenmore vacuums in the 1980's. I know that Matsushita bought the Whirlpool vacuum factory in Danbury, Kentucky in 1991 - thus fully taking over manufacturing of Kenmore vacs. But it seems that before that date, Sears was selling some Kenmore vacs made by Panasonic at some other American factory. But I have yet to find evidence of a location for that American Matsushita vacuum assembly line. Would you know? :-)


Post# 343599 , Reply# 20   2/12/2016 at 06:19 (2,968 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Sorry....I meant Danville, Kentucky....not Danbury...:-)

Post# 343665 , Reply# 21   2/12/2016 at 11:21 (2,967 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I'm pretty sure my power center was made by Panasonic or maybe it was made by Whirlpool before it was taken over by Panasonic at that time(I know there are a few models of these that are made and licensed by Panasonic in their Ultra-Pro line back then). Strange I didn't know there was another factory. I'll have to ask my old buddy who has sold Panasonic for over 30 years before he retired if there was another factory and where it was made.

Post# 344202 , Reply# 22   2/15/2016 at 20:43 (2,964 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I've made it to my other shed earlier this week finishing off my collection here.

Kenmore Progressive with intelli-clean
Kenmore Whispertone
Panasonic MC-V7337
Kenmore Quick Clean (grey)
Dirt Devil Vision
Kenmore Quick clean (green)
Sanitaire
Dirt Devil featherlite (green)
Hoover Turbopower 1700

Not pictured:

Hoover soft guard (elite version)
Dirt Devil featherlite (like that green one but it's blue with a stretch hose)
Kenmore progressive with direct drive (like my black one but it's purple)


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Post# 344203 , Reply# 23   2/15/2016 at 20:46 (2,964 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Since that shed was next to my Grandparents, I thought I would show off their collection.

You can easily tell what these are:


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Post# 344204 , Reply# 24   2/15/2016 at 20:49 (2,964 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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So that finishes up here. If I feel like it, I could show off the my relative's vac collection if I have time.

Post# 345657 , Reply# 25   2/27/2016 at 23:58 (2,952 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Was at my aunt's place this week so thought I would show off her collection.

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Post# 345666 , Reply# 26   2/28/2016 at 07:23 (2,952 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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Welcome! Im Andy, and i mainly collect vintage Aerus Electrolux vacuums, but a few late 1990's and early 2000's vacuums have found shelter in my collection

Post# 345667 , Reply# 27   2/28/2016 at 07:24 (2,952 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Beam Serenity series;

Great system! She needs a total control hose. A Cana-Vac gas pump style hose will fit, and is the most reasonably priced.

Post# 345680 , Reply# 28   2/28/2016 at 09:55 (2,951 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Vacerator

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We just got the handle replaced not too long ago, the handle used to be white but the black one was the only replacement option we could do. I recommended her to get different handle for it but she went with this one because it it was still under warranty. She is still quite happy with this so far so no changes are going to happen at the moment.

Post# 346002 , Reply# 29   3/2/2016 at 00:36 (2,949 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Welcome aboard! Nice collection pieces you have!

Do you find the difference of the air powered TurboCat nozzles vs. electric power nozzle on a central as amazing as I did?? The TurboCats sound cool, maneuver easy and seem to groom nice but when you run an electric head over the same area afterwards, it really is amazing and scary what was left behind I found. Still a good unit that definitely works for quick pickups or in between of an electric nozzle. The Beam Rugmaster heads are quite powerful. Have you thought about getting other Electric power nozzles for your Central system such as a Panasonic nozzle, Hoover, or Wessel Werk or other Beam style?

Do you have any interest in Panasonic/ Kenmore canisters? Seems like you have several of their upright lines.


Post# 346078 , Reply# 30   3/2/2016 at 19:22 (2,948 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
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Thank you. Yes I know that the electric powerheads are WAY better than the turbocats for a long time. That was one of the reasons we upgraded our system years ago.

I really like these Eureka/Beam powerheads because they have very strong agitation but I rather not perfer them to use as my main powerhead because I like powerheads that have the manual height adjuster system instead of the free floating heads. I love panasonic powerheads on a central vacuum as I think it is one of my favorites but if I were upgrade again, I would get a stealth (Lindhaus) kit from MD.

I perfer panasonic upights better than canisters for lots of reasons but I still really like them. I just picked up a Kenmore progressive canister tonight and just overall my biggest concern on these which I perfer the uprights better is the door compartments are really cheap and flimsy. Oh and I like the attachments better on the upights better than the canisters as well.


Post# 346088 , Reply# 31   3/2/2016 at 22:24 (2,948 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Oh Cool!

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I only saw the Eureka Express style power head in your photos so I wasn't aware if you had any other ones.

As far as the canisters I find them very powerful. The older generation's 4 piece attachment set does a better job than the current series. Though the gorgeous Panasonic MC-CG902 still offers the original tool set. The only tool that I'm not wild about on that set is the bare floor brush. I find the bristles too firm, too short and not enough of them. But for $10 at a vacuum store one can get a generic bare floor brush with full perimeter horse hair bristles and the front bristles are cut a little shorter to prevent a snow plow effect.

I've had concerns myself for durability of their tool doors but at the same time I have yet to see a broken one!!! Of all the machines that appear on eBay, in thrift shops and using a few myself I have yet to see a broken tool door or attachment door. I think it is just very tight fitting and unless it is pulled up and down at a perfectly straight angle then the slight bend makes it rub on the plastic more and not swivel up as easy. Vaseline or WD-40 or cooking oil may help but I've never tried any sort of lubricant on one!

I wish you great luck with the Progressive unit that you got! Please post a photo. The Progressive name has been out for about 20 years roughly and has seen quite a few changes, utilizes 2 different power nozzle designs as well!


Post# 346091 , Reply# 32   3/2/2016 at 22:56 (2,948 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Post# 346093 , Reply# 33   3/2/2016 at 23:20 (2,948 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Sure

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I'll post pics when this thing is done cause I have it currently taken apart for cleaning right now. Just got it for $10 in pretty nice shape minus a few scuffs and paint marks but other than that, it had ALL the attachments on it and the hose is not even crushed at all. Only reason it was donated was because the powerhead didn't turn on. Just pressed the reset button and problem solved! However upon further inspection just now is that the bag door cover DOES have a crack in it.

I wonder if you are familiar on fixing these alot, what kind of glue would you recommend that would hold up on this crack you see in the photo in the middle cause I'm just concerned this might happen to me again if I didn't had any strong glue that would hold it up? I rather fix this than having to buy a whole new cover for this from sears.

Thanks.


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Post# 346103 , Reply# 34   3/3/2016 at 02:13 (2,948 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        
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That's a wonderful and extensive collection.  

 

Thanks for sharing.  

 

I had one of those Green Machines (without heat) for several years and it worked great.  I found it desirable to shorten the hose about 18".

 

Good luck on your current project.


Post# 346551 , Reply# 35   3/6/2016 at 21:05 (2,944 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Was at my brother's this week so here's a picture of their vacuums here. I don't think I will ever do a video of these vacs because my brother lives pretty far from me and I only go there about once a year so I'll just go ahead and talk about these vacuums.

Carpet Pro: My sister-in-law bought this brand new from a vacuum store about a year and a half now. She got this to replace her old Red Eureka Powerline gold Victory that was falling apart due to it's old age and with motor starting to fail. It didn't came with the attachments so she found a hose for it at QVC for a dollar and it came with a Kirby attachment with it as you see in a photo. Overall it is a really good vacuum, it does an excellent job on carpets. Couple things we don't like about this is that this keeps burning out headlights and the suction is not very good on this. (Even tho the filters, the bag, and the motor is very clean)

Dirt Devil: My sister-in-law got this brand new from target cause she got a gift card or something that she only had to pay like 10 dollars on so she uses this to clean the bare floors of the house. Overall it's not powerful but it still picks dirt off the floor.


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Post# 346803 , Reply# 36   3/8/2016 at 22:38 (2,942 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
power nozzles

Regarding using Panasonic power nozzles on central vacuums, the Centec power heads are very similar and may even be exactly the same as what Panasonic uses. I have the Mc-cg902, for the price, you can't beat it. I believe the power nozzle it uses is similar to the Centec ct16qd, then there is the Panasonic mc-cg937 and I think it includes the Centec ct20qd. Recently I've started collecting power nozzles, and just ordered what I think will be the last one for a while. I was mainly interested in the universal power nozzles since those can work on just about any electric hose. Got the Lindhaus pb14 pro, the Wessel Werk ebk 340, the Sebo et2 and will soon have the Riccar universal power nozzle. Unfortunately the Wessel Werk ebk360 and all of the Centec power nozzles do not have pig tail cords, but require a direct wand, so are much more limited in what they will work with. It would be interesting to try and make a pigtail adapter for some of these power nozzles, similar to Sebo's central vacuum adapter. It's actually interesting to pair a canister with a different power nozzle than what it came with to see if there is a difference in cleaning performance.

Post# 346804 , Reply# 37   3/8/2016 at 22:41 (2,942 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
air driven nozzles

Forgot to mention this in the last post, I think electric nozzles are by far better than air driven nozzles. Electric nozzles are much quieter, and much less likely to clog. With air driven nozzles, everything goes through the turbine, and the opening is very small so all of the incoming air flow can be used to spin the turbine fan. Electric nozzles may cost a bit more, but it's well worth it.

Post# 346807 , Reply# 38   3/9/2016 at 00:24 (2,942 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Power heads

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Yes Centec uses the same powerheads that Panasonic/Kenmore uses. There's one Centec powerhead that is actually made by Tacony you would see on the Riccar/Simplicity canisters and Central vacuums. My Grandpa has a Vacumaid central vacuum that uses a Vacumaid deluxe powerhead which is made by Panasonic, I think that is the funnest central vacuum I have ever used. My Grandpa got new carpet a few years ago and it amazingly still picks up alot of carpet fuzz cause this really is a great nozzel, it's powerful enough that I would empty the canister everytime I use it because it fills up very fast. I never really like turbocats when I was growing up. I get so bored with it that I just don't ever use it. The only time I ever liked these was one time I was at a neighbor's house once with a Vacuflo unit. There was only low pile carpet in their house so that was why they got a air driven kit. The Vacuflo unit was so powerful enough that it blew me away using it with the turbocat, it was so powerful that it filled the canister really quickly so I really had a fun time using that. Too bad my Beam unit is not as powerful enough to use the turbocats on, or maybe it's just that my turbocats are just getting old and wearing out. I would only recommend a air driven kit to someone that has only low pile carpeting, with no pets, doesn't get the house dirty as much, and use it with a very powerful unit like that Vacuflo I had used.

Post# 346811 , Reply# 39   3/9/2016 at 02:06 (2,942 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I have some air powered power nozzles adn occasionally use them on my central units for fun!!They spin so fast they almost levitate!!!Have one old airnozzle that came in the vac shop trade in pile-it has worn turbine fans-When I tried it on the MD unit one of the fans blades spun off!Thing still works-but noisey.Its had a lot of stuff go thru its turbine fans.Has a metal brushroll with beater bars.NSS used to have one like that a while back-worked good on NSS M1 and Designer dry vacuums.The NSS nozzle was designed to work with vacuums that had high airflow rather than suction "pressure" as most central units have.

Post# 346830 , Reply# 40   3/9/2016 at 09:29 (2,941 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
air nozzles and centec power heads

The turbocats have a loud annoying whine to them that drives me nuts. Actually, Sunbeam included an air driven nozzle similar to that on their canister vacuums when they made them.
Does anyone know what the actual difference is between some of the Centec nozzles? I may have these models a bit wrong, but I think there is a ct14qd, ct16qd, ct18qd and a ct20qd. The newest ones are the ct23qd which is designed to clean the high pile carpet better, and there is alsso a CT24 that has a built in hard floor brush. Also, when getting wands for central vacuums, you have to make sure the wand fits the hose, there are two cord systems, flush and recessed, does anyone know what the actual difference is between these? They both have the standard female plug on the hose, but doesn't the recessed hoses have the outlet further inside the hose than the flush?


Post# 346897 , Reply# 41   3/9/2016 at 20:37 (2,941 days old) by blknblu (CT)        

The Kenmore Intuition power nozzle is a rebadged Centec 24QD with the lift out hard floor brush.

I have since discarded the whole mess. It is an engineering disaster, and the power nozzle is deeper and more awkward than a regular power nozzle. Mine had a broken elbow, and I was just not satisfied with it.

Take a look, all the dirt has to go through that circle in the middle of the power nozzle.

 


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Post# 346953 , Reply# 42   3/10/2016 at 09:25 (2,940 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
kenmore vacuums

I'm not sure what kind of hose your Kenmore comes with, some came with a standard hose end with the standard two proong electrical connector. If yours came with the ct24 nozzle, it's probably one of the newer ones though. Not only do these have nonstandard hose ends, but the electrical connector is nonstandard as well so you can't add a better universal power nozzle to it. I have a Panasonic mc-cg902 and last night I tried pairing it up with my Sebo et2 power nozzle, worked great, cleaned my area rugs quite well.

Post# 346960 , Reply# 43   3/10/2016 at 11:04 (2,940 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        

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I don't know why manufacturers now offer the “all-in-one” attachment thing. It’s like a doll house toy. Does the mass public really prefer the combination, dusting, crevice, upholstery tool thing? Look at the current lineup of Hoover canisters they all have that all-in-one tool thing. I thought people bought canisters for their variety of attachments.

I guess it leaves the market open for disposable cleaning cloths like Swiffer. Which is greener a vacuum or a disposable Swiffer?

I wish manufactures would offer a complete set of attachments. I think the only current Hoover vacuums that offer a complete set of attachments are the Hoover Tempo upright, and the SP Windtunnel. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I hope I am :)


Post# 346966 , Reply# 44   3/10/2016 at 12:01 (2,940 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
attachments

Electrolux has offered the combination dusting brush and apolstry tool for a while, now there's a tool that has those and a crevis tool along with it. As with many things, when you try to create something that does several things, it usually does those things average at best. When you have a product dedicated to one thing only, it does it very well. I actually really like the apolstry tool that came with my Powr-flite backpack vacuum. It actually is a standard size so I can use it with all my other vacuums as well. It has no brush on it, but a nice long opening that spreads the suction all the way across. I also find that the combination hard floor and carpet tools don't do as well as a dedicated hard floor brush. The one exception to this might be the Wessel Werk rd285 which doesn't use brushes at all, just a squeegee, although I would only use that on hard floors. For carpets, you need a spinning brush, that will always clean better than straight suction. Has anyone tried any of the side winder attachments? They are common with backpacks, but you can get them with a 1.25 inch connection as well. I've thought about getting the side winder hard floor brush. The wessel werk turn and clean hard floor brush is also really good.

Post# 347022 , Reply# 45   3/11/2016 at 00:11 (2,940 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
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Here is my response of knowledge of several common CenTec power nozzles that have been on various Panasonic, Kenmore, Royal, canisters over the years along with several central vacuum kits! There are some Youtube videos in here too which very well explain some of their newer nozzles!!

The CT24QD blue Intuition nozzle posted above was found on the blue Kenmore Intuition canister vacuum which was manufactured with a universal end hose. The suction unit on that Kenmore was actually very nice. Powerful air flow, long hose, dirt sensor built into the hose handle and all controls including variable speed on the hose handle. The power nozzle was a disaster though!!! Too long, terrible bare floor brush with tiny cheap wheels that broke easy and that cause issues reconnecting back into the power head again.

As far as differences between Kenmore/ CenTec power nozzles, they are very slim with exception of the CT12DX.

The CT12DX is a 12" power nozzle. It was available with and without a headlight. The last canister vacuum I saw it on was the fuscia colored Panasonic MC-CG901 along with some Canadian Kenmore canisters. A decent running power nozzle that has squared off ends. The rear wheels and no handle release pedal allowed this nozzle to tilt back and roll easily around the house from room to room. Also due to the lack of the handle release pedal, the nozzle stays on the carpet better before the the wand getting closer to the floor lifts it up. This nozzle was an unusual center belt design that did get dirt caught around the belt area unfortunately, but that was easily cleanable and took quite a build up before becoming noticeable!! This system was a flat stretch belt. Dual row chevron like brush roll. Easy to turn height adjuster for selection and the foot tension operated handle release. Overall an excellent power nozzle in my opinion that cleaned well, had true dual sided brushed edge cleaning and a pleasant sounding motor.


The CenTec CT14DX is the original. Originally was a cogged style belt, rear wheels were slightly off center on either side of the elbow. They were wide all plastic wheels on metal axles that locked into the housing so the wheel actually spun on the axle and the axle would remain stationary in the housing. Originally this nozzle had a completely smooth front entrance on the bottom plate and only 2 rug guards. Original brush roll consisted of a beater bar and rows of soft replaceable brush strips. Modifications over time have allowed for airflow inlets on the front of the nozzle base plate, more rug guards, and a chevron brush roll. The headlight cover is easily knocked off on these units. The sound of the cogged belt motor is louder than many other power nozzles and the tone in my opinion is unappealing!

Next came the CT18DX. This originally debuted on first generation Kenmore Progressive canisters. It is a squared off nozzle on either side, with very thin all plastic rear wheels. Serpentine belt is significantly quieter and more pleasant toned over the CT14DX. There is a white plastic guard inside the machine that encloses the brush roll cavity. Just an extra piece inside the unit aside from the main housing. This is the power nozzle found on current market Panasonic MC-CG902, MC917 and a few others. Wheels can wear away housing.

CenTec CT20DX is the nozzle found today on most Kenmore canisters such as the lime green, tangerine, white and blueberry models. A sleeker, lower profile head over the 2 previous mentioned power nozzles. The rear wheels are rubber or other texture coating that glides better over hard floors. This a T designed head that allows a little better reach into certain crevices. The coated wheels maneuver well. Serpentine belt system with identical motor sound and I believe the exact same brush roll as the CT18DX. These wheels have a tendency to get worn and rock over time as dirt erodes the plastic axles. But they do work well up until that point as the rubberized traction is great over their previous power nozzles.

New to the market is the CenTec CT23QD also known as the Response II. This nozzle is a very sleek, has a headlight is again 14" wide just like CT14, CT18 and CT20 models. This nozzle has vents in the side that make it more versatile for newer style softer fiber carpets. This youtube video by Panasonic explains it best and makes it look quite impressive. I would love to try one myself and perhaps someday own one!!



Also new to the market is the CT10QD power nozzle. This nozzle is a very compact barefloor/ low profile carpet power nozzle. it can be used in various positions. The front opens up to allow the brush roll to completely clean up against base boards, and other things. The Youtube video for this is impressive. I don't know exact width of the nozzle or durability but they look neat, and are very quiet. Very soft bristles primarily are what market this as a barefloor nozzle and the lightweight carpet.





Post# 347048 , Reply# 46   3/11/2016 at 10:35 (2,939 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
great info

Thanks for the info on those Centec nozzles, that's the first comparison I have seen about those. It sounds like the best ones right now are the 18, 20, and 23. Here's a link to another one called the ctb100. I think Tacony may have actually been involved in this one but not sure.
www.centralvacuumstores.com/centr...
Looks like they went from ct14 to ct18, guess there was never a ct16.
I wonder which power head comes with the Panasonic mc-cg937, I'm guessing its either the ct18 or the ct20. There's also an mc-cg957 which I think includes the CT23 but not sure.


Post# 347197 , Reply# 47   3/11/2016 at 21:58 (2,939 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
I'm back with more

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I was coming back from vacation this week and had to stop by at my uncle's vacation home for overnight. This was actually my very first time I have ever been inside in his house because this house is VERY far from me so I don't think I will ever do a video of this. This home is only a few years old, I asked a while ago what kind of vacuum they have down there when they got this home and they said they couldn't remember what it was called but they said it was like a white and grey unit with a white hose, ok I was thinking it may have been a model from "Thinkvacuums" because there is a thinkvacuums dealer not far from there and I thought it was Duovac because it was close to describe what vacuum this was with a SEBO head. But soon as I discovered when I went inside, I was WAY off. It's an MD FLO-MASTER I think the model was M85 and it uses a powerhead that is made by Dust care from ESSCO/Buckeye. I've used this powerhead before and it's a pretty good powerhead cause it has a metal brushroll with replaceable strips so it does a really good job on carpets. Only downside is that it is a bit noisy and not to mention that the headlight was burned out as well. The unit is very powerful concerning this does use a 14.5 amp motor with very powerful suction and airflow. I think our old MD Silentmaster we used to use at our old cabin before we sold it, It was a little bit more powerful and it was alot more quieter than this one. Overall it is very powerful system even tho this house only has just one floor, and it's alot better than his other vacuum at his main home. I know my uncle and his wife wants to sell their main home and move down to their vacation home so it's very possible I'm going to get my hands on his Panasonic MC-V6255 which I will say it is my favorite vacuum of all time.

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Post# 347283 , Reply# 48   3/12/2016 at 18:30 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
CenTec CT14DX

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I decided to break it up into separate posts

CenTec CT14 DXQD

2.4 Amp motor
Newest model is as shown with base plate below sporting the chevron brush roll.

Early Kenmore canisters- many called the Kenmore Whispertone, Nutone CT600 power nozzle, Panasonic MCV9644 all had the CenTec CT14DXQD nozzle.

Last photo, is the best I could find on Google of the older style brush roll system for how this power nozzle was originally. I'm sure someone on Vacuumland has a better photo!!


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Post# 347284 , Reply# 49   3/12/2016 at 18:58 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
CT12DXL

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This is the 12" power nozzle!

Middle belt
Flat belt

2.0 Amp motor


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Post# 347286 , Reply# 50   3/12/2016 at 19:01 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
CT18DXQD

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2.4 Amp motor
14" cleaning path
Plastic rear wheels

Panasonic MC-CG902, MC-CG917, MC-CG983, 1st generation Kenmore Progressive canisters, BOL Kenmore guacamole and teal models.


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Post# 347287 , Reply# 51   3/12/2016 at 19:11 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
CenTec CT20DXQD

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2.4 Amp motor
14" cleaning path
wider rear wheels-- rubber coated
Serpentine belt

Current model Kenmores: Lime green, Tangerine, white and Blueberry. Many Kenmore Progressive canisters. Panasonic MC-CG937

The blue Kenmore below is a Canada model. Very similar to the U.S. Lime green.

The red Kenmore below is one I used to have. It's from roughly 2004. Model number is 25513. Similar to it is model 25512.


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Post# 347290 , Reply# 52   3/12/2016 at 19:43 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Other CenTecs

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CenTec CT23DXQD
newest version- known to Panasonic as the Plush Pro nozzle
Panasonic MC-CG957, Kenmore Plush canister


CenTec CT24QD
CrossOver/ Kenmore Intuition nozzle
This one I do not recommend!!!
It was originally featured on the gorgeous blue Kenmore Intuition canister below. The suction unit for this was fantastic!! Long cord, long hose, dirt sensor in the hose, headlight on the wand, telescoping wand, quiet, variable speed, very powerful airflow, easy rolling wheels.

The power nozzle was the flaw!! Bare floor brush was a single strip of bristles on either side of the air duct. Tiny plastic rear wheels broke and ruined connection back into nozzle. The over all nozzle was very deep and awkward to maneuver. The front of the nozzle would lift off the floor once the wand was lowered to about 15" from the floor.

Kenmore has replaced the Intuition nozzle and I've never tried but have heard that it is better!


CenTec CPB100
This nozzle does look like CenTec bought rights from Tacony to brand one of their nozzles CenTec.
All of the exterior components look identical to my Simplicity Verve. CenTec I believe offers central vacuum hose kits with this power nozzle. Riccar and Simplicity also have central vacuum kits with this power nozzle. Of course there are numerous Riccar and Simplicity canisters with this power nozzle.

However, Riccar and Simplicity maintain the TOL of this version which includes a dirt sensor, 3 row bristle brush roll and possibly other features.

Riccar 1700 blue canister pictured below which belongs to a former cleaning client of mine.

Red Simplicity Verve of mine below and I have installed a 3 row agitator that I got from Tom Gasko who works at Tacony! I also have a perfect condition metal 2 row brush roll for it as well. I'm still debating which I like better!


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Post# 347320 , Reply# 53   3/12/2016 at 23:10 (2,938 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
centec and panasonic nozzles

I wonder if the version of this nozzle that comes with the panasonic mc-cg902 is the exact same version as the ct18qd, for example if the neck is the same. If I got the right wands, I wonder if I could use it with a central vacuum hose. In general, there are two ways to connect a power nozzle and they both have their advantages and disadvantages. The direct connect method, which is used on the Centec nozzles and is used by many canister and central vacuum kits either has the cord built in to the wand, or an external cord on the wand, but the connector on the wand goes in to the power nozzle directly. The advantage of this is that you can switch attachments very easily by removing the power nozzle and putting on the new attachment without having to disconnect cords. The disadvantage to this approach is that the power nozzle will only work for certain vacuums, and you need a wand that will mate properly with the connector. On the other hand, there are power nozzles such as the Lindhaus, Wessel Werk ebk340, Sebo power nozzles with the central vacuum adapter, and the Riccar universal power nozzle which has two brush strips, these nozzles have a cord attached to the nozzle with the two prong mini connector at the end. These will work with any electric hose that uses this connector which most do. The only ones I know of that don't use this are the electrolux square neck hoses and some of the new Kenmores. The nice thing about these nozzles is that they are very universal and will work with many vacuums. I've actually used them on my panasonic mc-cg902 and Riccar Prima, it's kind of interesting to pair up different power nozzles with different vacuums to test the performance. The disadvantage here is that in order to switch attachments, you need to remove the nozzle and also disconnect the cord from the hose. Still, I really like the universal approach. I wish the Wessel Werk ebk360 was available in a corded version, but so far, I've only seen it as a direct connect nozzle.

Post# 347323 , Reply# 54   3/12/2016 at 23:18 (2,938 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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There's another Panasonic powerhead that Centec doesn't use. It's mainly used on Hayden central vacuums and some of the Panasonic canisters as well. However, I heard that Hayden discontinued these powerheads which sucks cause I've used one of these in a grey color at my nieghbors house with a Vacuflo unit before and I thought it was a very fun kit to use.

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Post# 347333 , Reply# 55   3/12/2016 at 23:53 (2,938 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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n0oxy,

There are wand sets available to make the MC-CG902 work on a central vacuum system. The standard set up that comes with that canister vacuum is the foot pedal release power head. There are wands available for this to either have it set up as a quick disconnect at the hose to fit a Kenmore/ Panasonic style hose, there are also pig tail cord sets with no quick disconnect for the hose but rather you can plug the cord into the hose yourself. Wherever you shop for your central vacuum could help you get the proper wands.

Panasonicvac

The Hayden nozzle you posted is essentialy the CenTec CT14DX. The top hood is different which repositions the headlight too for a 1 piece cover but the wheel base, brush roll and other components are that of the CT14DX. Same as the power nozzle for Royal Power Tank Deluxe models. Early Royal Power Tanks had a Filter Queen nozzle and the last ones made had the CT14DX nozzle just a different top hood. The hood used for the Hayden and Royal is actually very very similar to the Panasonic MC-9644 posted above. I couldn't find a better photo, but this video shows it perfect!!





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Post# 347404 , Reply# 56   3/13/2016 at 13:59 (2,937 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
panasonic power head on central vacuum

I may look in to getting a set of wands for that power head. I may go to centec systems web site, they actually carry lots of attachments, wands, and other parts. Interestingly, I was at my girl friend's last night and we used the Electrolux ultra one that I got her last Christmas to clean her place. She has mostly bare floors so I got her the straight suction version, it actually did come with a turbo brush which she uses for her area rugs. I'm beginning to think I should have gotten her the next level up though, it would have included an electric power head. She has a cat, and the litter gets in to one of her area rugs. While cleaning it with the turbo brush last night, a piece of the litter jammed the turbine. I know with turbo brushes, the hole is very small so all the air goes through the turbine, and that's why these kinds of things happen. Next time we need to clean that rug, I'm going to bring one of my electric power nozzles over, I've got a cord that will allow you to connect a power nozzle directly to an outlet, and we'll see how that works. I was at our local home and garden show a few weeks ago, and the vacuflo dealer there was telling people that turbo nozzles will clean as well as an electric power nozzle and they are cheaper. That's nuts. An electric power nozzle will outclean a turbo nozzle any day, and will not get clogged near as much.

Post# 347411 , Reply# 57   3/13/2016 at 14:47 (2,937 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Nice red older Panasonic

Identical to the maroon Kenmore my mom had.

Post# 347439 , Reply# 58   3/13/2016 at 17:30 (2,937 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I highly disagree with the turbo nozzle and electric being equal!!

There are Youtube videos that show otherwise. Turbo nozzles send the dirt through small breaks in the fan and they choke on some dirt. Electric nozzles have a wide opening that will not choke unless the user is picking up inappropriate material such as a juice bottle cap!

The agitation by many power nozzles is quite impressive!!


Post# 347842 , Reply# 59   3/17/2016 at 22:34 (2,933 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
As promised...

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Here is my black Kenmore progressive canister all serviced up. I wish I would've gotten one on either a red or a blue version cause I like the colors and the suction motor on those better.

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Post# 347843 , Reply# 60   3/17/2016 at 22:40 (2,933 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
And hopefuly tomorrow

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I saw a Electrolux Discovery III tonight at my thrift store but it was in the back room that I wasn't allowed to go in there so I have to wait tomorrow morning to see if it will be out for sale yet or they might throw it away if it doesn't work.

Post# 347895 , Reply# 61   3/18/2016 at 12:46 (2,932 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Update

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The lux has since been gone

Post# 347990 , Reply# 62   3/19/2016 at 10:32 (2,931 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States)        
air and electric nozzles

I definitely agree that electric nozzles are better. Since my girl friend's vacuum does not have an electric hose next time she needs to clean the litter from the area rug, I'm going to bring one of my electric nozzles over. I have a 35 foot cord that will let you connect a power nozzle directly to a wall outlet, I can pretty much say for sure it will clean better than the turbine and not get clogged with the litter. It's really a shame that at that home show, a dealer, who you would think would really know about what they were selling was telling people that kind of false information about air nozzles cleaning just as well as electric. No way. I always suggest, if you think you need a spinning brush fora canister, don't even bother with the turbines, spend the extra money and get an electric.

Post# 351314 , Reply# 63   5/1/2016 at 15:28 (2,888 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Alright this is pretty much an update on my collection here. Just got 2 new vacuums over the past few weeks, it's a Dyson DC14 Fullkit and a Simplicity Sentry III 4800. The Dyson I got at the thrift store for about $15 bucks and all it needs is a $5 spring on the quick release wand which that's easy to do but it will be going in storage because I don't want it in my house. The Simplicity I also got at the thrift store for $10 and It's going to need a new brushroll which I can easily get and it also needs a new bottom plate which may be a little hard to get because those bottom plates are discontinued, I will keep an eye at my local vacuum store to see if there are any Sentry bottom plates that are in good shape that I can get.

That's pretty much about it on my little update here. I was going to plan on selling some of my vacs this summer but I will be very busy this summer and throughout the rest of the year that it will have to wait til like another year at least. Also I will be posting on Youtube some of my vacuums but I don't think I will do all of them, just some that I will have time to do. Someone emailed me a while ago I can't remember who but Someone requested to do a video of my Kenmore professional 12" made by Sebo, I will get to that as soon as I get a new Servo motor for it.


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Post# 351353 , Reply# 64   5/2/2016 at 09:23 (2,887 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I have the same Simplicity and I love it

Post# 351480 , Reply# 65   5/3/2016 at 17:36 (2,886 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Last post in this thread

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Next time I show off more pics from either my collection or showing off my relative's vacs, I will post them on another thread due to the fact I don't like posting on long threads that takes a while to scroll down. So this is my sister's Hoover elite rewind from 2005, this used to be mine before I gave this to her a few years ago when she needed a vacuum for her place.

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Post# 362299 , Reply# 66   11/12/2016 at 00:04 (2,694 days old) by Elijahch13 (Everett, Washington)        
Kenmore power center

Is the Kenmore Power Cemter available?

Post# 362387 , Reply# 67   11/13/2016 at 16:02 (2,692 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
I still have it...

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But I don't have plans to sell it until next summer.


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