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Sebo Professional G1 Rumbleing Problem.
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Post# 342478   1/31/2016 at 09:47 (3,000 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Hey you lot,

I wonder if any of you can help me with my Sebo?

I have a G1 which I had to import from Germany because they don't sell them here in England, because of this Sebo UK won't help me with my problem. Although they have sold me parts.

Anyway, my issue is there is a rumble and vibration, and the motor randomly gets pulled back and forward... Now I could go on and on trying to explain but I have a Video I made, I'll post a link to it so you can watch that and you'll see exactly what it's doing... If nobody minds?

I am well and truly stumped on this one, I've replaced most things!

Thank you all for any help and advice you can give me, maybe some of you have had this issue! :)



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Post# 342483 , Reply# 1   1/31/2016 at 10:20 (2,999 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Hiya
DO u know me? ;D


Post# 342487 , Reply# 2   1/31/2016 at 10:46 (2,999 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Why won't Sebo UK help you? They should have a European warranty!
I think that is disgusting!
Someone on here will be able to help you :-)


Post# 342488 , Reply# 3   1/31/2016 at 10:53 (2,999 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The vacuum wasn't bought in the UK, hence why there's only a year warranty from Germany, Sebo4Me.

Post# 342489 , Reply# 4   1/31/2016 at 10:57 (2,999 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Well a lot of companies have a worldwide warranty they will honour it wherever you buy it.
Anyway I hope someone on here can help.


Post# 342490 , Reply# 5   1/31/2016 at 10:58 (2,999 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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No, not with certain floorcare and I wouldn't expect a lot of brands to offer worldwide warranties as different countries have different environments.

Both Roger and I also appear to be having the same problem on our uprights.


Post# 342491 , Reply# 6   1/31/2016 at 11:01 (2,999 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Parwaz, yeah I know you lol.

And thanks for replying all of you, this Forum is strange I had no notifications haha.

But yes I bought it from Germany and it has NO warranty and Sebo UK won't help me even though it broke when it was about 4 months old. They'll service it for £70 but that's just a service, not fixing it.

I hope somebody on here either knows what it is or has had the same issue and can point me in the right direction lol.


Post# 342493 , Reply# 7   1/31/2016 at 11:20 (2,999 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Come to think of it I have noticed a vibrating rumbling noise on my X4 I thought that was just part of the noise it makes :-)

Post# 342496 , Reply# 8   1/31/2016 at 12:10 (2,999 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Lol, it's not usable with the issue I have, after a while it shuts down lol. Plus it makes your hand go numb...

Post# 342497 , Reply# 9   1/31/2016 at 12:22 (2,999 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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I'm very sorry to hear this. As a jesture of good will and for the sake of Sebos reputation I think Sebo UK should repair this for you. I know you imported it from Germany but its only 4 months old!
Id write to the MD of Sebo and see if there's anything they can do. I'd also write to the Sebo MD in Germany and see if he can arrange a repair in the UK.


Post# 342525 , Reply# 10   1/31/2016 at 15:10 (2,999 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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See Marcus, I dont think SEBO UK should foot the bill. Its like the Apple Macbook I have. I bought it in the UK. I wouldn't expect it to be repaired if I was visiting family in Dubai, America or elsewhere. Fair enough if SEBO were a British brand, but they're not.

RustySkull - have you contacted SEBO in Germany, or at least the seller? I would suggest that if you do you only send the motor part back i.e. the bottom part and not the whole vacuum. That way, whoever looks at it can use the top half from other X models etc.



Post# 342528 , Reply# 11   1/31/2016 at 15:24 (2,999 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Sebo-Fan, I have contacted the shop I bought it from but they appeared to speak no English, so I phoned them and it was clear English was a problem haha.

Sebo Germany I haven't contacted, truth is I don't want to, I want to find out what the issue is, I'll fix it and BOOM! done, over with and I can use it again lol.


Post# 342530 , Reply# 12   1/31/2016 at 15:26 (2,999 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well I know they speak English in Germany if you contact SEBO in Germany via their email page on the site. I know what you mean though - it would be good to diagnose the problem rather than sending it back. Mine doesn't shut off though, it just rumbles intermittently but as bad as I can feel it through the handle.

Im beginning to wonder if this is one reason to why SEBO were reluctant to sell the G1 series in the UK...I dont suffer the same problem with my Felix.


Post# 342538 , Reply# 13   1/31/2016 at 16:23 (2,999 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

A manufacturers guarantee is in addition to a customers statutory rights in consumer law. This guarantee is completely optional and can pretty much exclude what it likes. The only real stipulation used to be that where a guarantee is offered, it has to be honoured, subject to the right conditions being met. Often a guarantee is only valid within the countries where it states it is so.

As a matter of goodwill, I think Sebo could do a lot worse that sort this out. But the only thing they stand to gain from it is the potential to encourage the owner to buy Sebo again next time he or she needs a new cleaner. There is no knowing when or if they will do so, so I suppose you could say that Sebo couldn't care less either way. Their call.


Post# 342594 , Reply# 14   2/1/2016 at 03:05 (2,999 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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I have the same intermittent vibration rumbling thing on my X4 Nar so maybe it's a common problem.

Post# 342688 , Reply# 15   2/2/2016 at 14:12 (2,997 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Hmm, mine isn't intermittent it's all the time, until the "check Brush" light comes on and then it shuts off.

I'm not bothered about rights or Guarantees to be honest I just want to be able to use it lol.
I've spoken to Engineers at Sebo and they apparently haven't seen anything like this before. And want me to pay to send it to them to look at it...

A few issues there.
1. I trust NOBODY and won't let anyone work on my stuff, including cars etc.. (Hence why I do all my own work)
2. I won't pay to have stuff done I can do myself.
3. what can they do that I can't? They will take it apart and replace bits and then charge me, the same as if I buy parts and change them... But it'll be cheaper if I do it lol.

I'm going to replace the belts if I can finally find some, as they're the only things I haven't changed bar the motor. ;) Update video coming in the next few weeks!


Post# 342695 , Reply# 16   2/2/2016 at 15:16 (2,997 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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True but they will change the part that needs changing first :-)
You could try changing the belts but I'm not sure that will solve the problem.
Uve changed the most likely parts the bearing and the sensor.
If the motor is moving around in its mounting excessively this could be the problem?
Can't think of anything else.:-(


Post# 342765 , Reply# 17   2/3/2016 at 11:45 (2,996 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

Why don't you post your problem on Sebo's Facebook page. I find that manufacturers are more helpful if your grievance is publicly visible. I always get a quicker response from Vax when I post the problem on Facebook or Twitter.

www.facebook.com/sebovacu...


Post# 342766 , Reply# 18   2/3/2016 at 11:55 (2,996 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Good idea Roger.

Post# 342948 , Reply# 19   2/6/2016 at 03:04 (2,994 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

The warranty is with your supplier, and they should collect and repair the item. If you don't speak German then I would suggest you type something in simple English and use Google translate to attempt to communicate.

You can contact Sebo Germany (the warranty is two years in Germany) and attempt to have the item rectified. Sebo do not have world wide warranty unlike Miele, Apple or other manufacturers. Your contact is always with the person you purchased the item with and NOT the manufacturer.

If you have already gone through diagnostics ok, otherwise try taking the hose off the machine and turn it on see if it still acts up. If not then you have some form of blockage and the machine is trying to hard and making the motor hot.

If you also take the top of the machine off and look through the two tubes that come up from the base and see if you can see all the way through.

Also of course take the brush off and make sure nothing is tangled up with it or blocking the suction part.

If you do this and it is still acting up then it is an electronics fault with either the board or the motor itself (most likely the board).

The reason the machine is getting hot is that it thinks there is an issue with suction and therefore is trying harder making the motor work harder. I also wouldn't use the machine because you are shortening the life of the motor by making it work harder.

I am having a similar problem with mine I purchased a little while ago, however mine it the check bag light that intermittently comes on and off.




Post# 342954 , Reply# 20   2/6/2016 at 07:38 (2,994 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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As the cleaner is shutting off I was thinking maybe there's a blockage somewhere.


Post# 342957 , Reply# 21   2/6/2016 at 08:11 (2,994 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Hey Spacey,

As far as contacting the seller goes, they haven't replied to any messages since the first one that made no sense. I'm not too bothered about that anyway.

As far as the problem itself goes, the motor isn't getting hot, Which is good. I have checked the suction hoses and can't see any blockages.

One question I have is, you say it's an electrical fault with the board... Well how can an electrical fault with the board make the motor move in such a way? It's clearly a mechanical problem surly? I can't understand how electrics on a Vacuum cleaner can make it shake and rumble?

Please expand if you can?

Many thanks.


Post# 342958 , Reply# 22   2/6/2016 at 08:20 (2,994 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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An electrical fault would explain why it is switching off but not the vibrating noise. That is a mystery.
You must be a very chilled person to not be bothered, I would be furious!


Post# 342962 , Reply# 23   2/6/2016 at 09:37 (2,994 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Well, what does getting angry achieve? Nothing...

Post# 342965 , Reply# 24   2/6/2016 at 09:50 (2,994 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)        

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Sometimes these companies need a kick up the arse to get a result :-)

Post# 342969 , Reply# 25   2/6/2016 at 11:07 (2,993 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Lmao

Post# 342972 , Reply# 26   2/6/2016 at 12:19 (2,993 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

Well I am no expert and only going on theory and what Sebo deduced as being the issue with ours. I have contacted my supplier who is happy to have it returned to them. However I would rather, like you get it repaired. I am not willing to pay for the repair since it is within guarantee.

The theory, if the machine believe a blockage exists then the motor will work harder to compensate, hence why the overworking of the motor, as to the vibration it is difficult to ascertain when it is not here in front of me.

I will chase Germany on Monday and see what they are planning to say on repairing it, if I have any joy I will be happy to let you know. As with regards to the retailer I am not aware were you bought it from so I can't comment.


Post# 342982 , Reply# 27   2/6/2016 at 12:48 (2,993 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Even if the board needs to be attended to, Rusty's G1 shouldn't need repairing when it is so new. There is obviously a fault somewhere, even on my old SM2 where NOTHING is trapped in the airways. Mine doesn't shut off but it rumbles most of the time even when in the correct height setting.

As for the motor getting hot- well it always gets hot anyway - can be felt on the top or at the back where the base plate and hood meet.


Post# 343769 , Reply# 28   2/13/2016 at 04:49 (2,987 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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It only shuts off because it thinks the brush is stuck....

Post# 343849 , Reply# 29   2/13/2016 at 10:57 (2,986 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I tried mine last night - the rumble gets worse when the upright is made to go on its rear wheels - ie when I'm dragging the upright back and using the wand and short hose. I realised it sounds like the motor is hunting to find the right mode that it should be in.

Post# 343852 , Reply# 30   2/13/2016 at 11:01 (2,986 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Sounds very odd, I think me ans you have very different problems lol.

Post# 344421 , Reply# 31   2/17/2016 at 15:41 (2,982 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

I received some assistance from Sebo Germany, they seemed to diagnose the fault on mine as the comment I received back was this...

I guess the bypass valve should be checked, the position 107:
www.sebo.de/fileadmin/use...

I havne't checked it - to be honest wouldn't know how to. Have just shipped the cleaner back to the supplier in Germany to fix or replace.


Post# 344563 , Reply# 32   2/18/2016 at 15:41 (2,981 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Hmm that link won't load... But I fixed mine, then it Broke again... Check the video...

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Post# 344575 , Reply# 33   2/18/2016 at 18:09 (2,981 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Poor post sale customer service;

Yes, not very "spitzenklasse" as is the Deutsche fashion.
If Mercedes did that, Cadillac would be kicking their butt in Europe.


Post# 344731 , Reply# 34   2/20/2016 at 13:25 (2,979 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Hate to break your bubble but Cadillac aren't a major brand in Europe. And did the VW scandal pass you by?

Post# 345378 , Reply# 35   2/25/2016 at 17:11 (2,974 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

Got outs back today fully fixed from Germany. They didn't actually say what they fixed on it, might open it up and take a look if I can be bothered but the people I got it from I would certainly buy again from them. They got it back on Thursday, shipped it back Friday and it arrived today.

Post# 351503 , Reply# 36   5/4/2016 at 01:29 (2,906 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

I finally found out, albeit months later what they fixed in the G1, not sure if this is a part you replaced....but the bypass valve was replaced in mine. The part is 2835.


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Post# 351639 , Reply# 37   5/5/2016 at 15:44 (2,904 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Aha! Spacey you might be my savior! I'll replace mine and see what happens!! :D Thanks!!!

Post# 352057 , Reply# 38   5/12/2016 at 01:58 (2,898 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth)        

Did you manage to fix it?

Post# 364083 , Reply# 39   12/23/2016 at 06:17 (2,673 days old) by RustySkull (England, South East)        

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Yes I fixed it Spacey3.

 

I just used it with the problem and it slowly faded and now seems fine... surprised



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