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| Post# 338218 11/28/2015 at 15:18 (3,064 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
European homes require smaller vacuums.
There seems to be a general drift that smaller homes require smaller vacuums. After reading many comments like "when company xyz started selling the smaller sized version of a fill-in-the-blank vacuum, they sold like the proverbial hotcakes." I would dearly love to hear your stories and/or general knowledge, especially from non-USA members as to how vacuum size affects your purchasing decisions over the years. For example: If a particular vacuum has a power nozzle (or floor attachments) that is in the 14"-15" range, how would that greatly impede your ability to clean compared to say, something in the 12" range? I'm not actually attempting to be funny here, but based on what I've read, it would make it seem that many things European are 1/3 smaller than what's typically found in the States. I'm imagining smaller chairs, couches, and hallways so skinny that only 1 person can fit through. I was all over Europe in 1981 and I noticed that some things appeared to be slightly more diminutive, but I couldn't understand the requirement for smaller cleaning devices. Please enlighten me... Bill | ||
| Post# 338232 , Reply# 1 11/28/2015 at 16:44 (3,064 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
1. Bigger is NOT better. We American's were fooled into believing this, amongst many lies when being brought up. It serves the oil investors, not the general population.
2. Smaller, lighter, easier to maneuver vacs are just as sought after in the U.S. I don't think any typical person would willingly want to haul around the likes of a heavy, metallic Electrolux canister, or clunky Kirby upright, when they can breeze through clean up with a light weight Bissel. 3. The U.S. is often the butt of jokes, because of it's tacky, wasteful, foolish lifestyle that is heavily dependant on other countries for petroleum for (political suicide). Why would other countries want to end up like America? | ||
| Post# 338241 , Reply# 2 11/28/2015 at 19:42 (3,064 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338249 , Reply# 3 11/28/2015 at 22:48 (3,064 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio) | ||
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| Post# 338252 , Reply# 5 11/29/2015 at 01:56 (3,064 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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I hear you Jeff/Ralph123. I just received my 1986 Electrolux Marquis metal sided canister and it is beautiful. Do I plan on using it to clean with? Probably not. It's more of a collectors item, like most of my vacs. My statement mentioned typical people. We as collectors are not typical. When one checks the vacuum manufacturers sites like Eureka, Hoover, Bissell, etc. light-weight is always a selling point. Lite weight plastic hoses and attachments over old braided heavy, hoses and metal parts. | ||
| Post# 338267 , Reply# 7 11/29/2015 at 09:58 (3,063 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338285 , Reply# 9 11/29/2015 at 18:57 (3,063 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Delaney makes a very good point in that bigger is not better and that Americans have been brainwashed to believe it. After all look at the massive cars of the 1970s and before that - it took an oil crisis to realise that gas guzzlers could no longer be sustainable.
I am however intrigued by your post, Bill. Not everything is large in the U.S - Europe wouldn’t be where it is now without the influence of the American Black and Decker dust buster or Remington versions or even the hand held Dirt Devil ‘Handy.” Maybe that’s just my observation, but whilst countless brands have copied and tried their own versions it was the Americans who brought the smaller dust busters and/or hand held vacs to Europe and UK. Helped massively by U.S run Hoover in the UK and other European countries, too. I am probably one of the more unique British citizens to have lived in a town that was once home to a U.S Military Naval base; we had locations in our town where Americans lived from the 1960s to the 1990s until Ronald Reagan called the troops back and pulled the military out. Our town has never been the same, although everyone remembers the American cars that the officers had as well as American housing that we had with low ceilings and huge floor spaces. American appliances were also brought over including huge top loader washing machines that we Scots only recognised as commercial washers found in launderettes. When the satellites arrived to receive Satellite TV, the rest of the UK had to make do with terrestrial TV. I remember the American satellites very well; they took up 2 acres of fields to accommodate 100 American homes. Benny, I don't think storage is a massive problem in the UK thanks to the popularity no doubt of IKEA. I think as a nation that we do have a problem with hoarding as well as buyers being led to believe that in certain cases, larger home appliances "U.S" style are better such as those double door fridge freezers that everyone loves but can't usually fit them in their kitchens and ends up being put in the conservatory instead. I think the Senior did well because it was higher powered than the Junior, and looked quite fashionable at the time. Whenever I see a Hoover Senior, it reminds me of this car, also unusual on the fact that both machines were on the market between 1957 and 1975. Both are classic, both are timeless - in my opinion.
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| Post# 338286 , Reply# 10 11/29/2015 at 20:13 (3,063 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
sebo_fan wrote: ...buyers being led to believe that in certain cases, larger home appliances "U.S" style are better such as those double door fridge freezers that everyone loves but can't usually fit them in their kitchens and ends up being put in the conservatory instead.
I reply: I resemble that remark. My parents are in the process of downsizing their home and gave me their extra fridge. It's a huge three-door model (double refrigerator doors up top and a pull-out freezer drawer at the bottom) and it wouldn't go through my kitchen door without being disassembled. I had to remove all the doors in order to squeeze it through the door with less than a quarter inch to spare. Even getting the old fridge out required removing the door handles. The old fridge now resides in the storage building behind the house, where it is full of beer and soda pop but the new one came within the proverbial hair's breadth of going there. | ||
| Post# 338346 , Reply# 11 12/1/2015 at 09:49 (3,061 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
I guess my thought process is...
It's all a matter of wants and needs for a person and what they want and need for their housekeeping needs. For myself our house has dogs and cats and carpets and hard floors. For myself I use my vacuum for virtually everything from vacuuming the furniture, going up the walls and knocking cobwebs, cleaning the ceiling fans, and door jambs and the window sills and just regular everyday vacuuming. A larger style vacuum works better for me and what I need.
I know people who have mostly hardwood floor with a small rug here and there and don't use the attachments the same way I do and they have maybe just a small stick type of vacuum. I think it's just in what a person wants. | ||
| Post# 338355 , Reply# 12 12/1/2015 at 13:07 (3,061 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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"I know people who have mostly hardwood floor with a small rug here and there and don't use the attachments the same way I do and they have maybe just a small stick type of vacuum. "
Whilst this is a good point, I also had a thought - most of Europe just had feather dusters to do ceiling fans or a terry style towel wrapped around a broom to get at the ceilings or corners. The U.S seems to have every kind of attachment going for the vacuum cleaner. Another possible reason to why everything appears bigger. End of the day Europe/UK is smaller physically so there should be no point in having a larger than life vacuum cleaner in a small home. | ||
| Post# 338362 , Reply# 13 12/1/2015 at 15:58 (3,061 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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Maybe I should ask which of two camps you prefer?
Camp #1: Most powerful, largest, heaviest, get all the dirt possible or
Camp #2: Moderately powerful, small, lightweight, and moderate cleaning ability. For me, I want to get all the dirt possible (power) and also clean as quickly as possible (maneuverability), so there is a slight convenience factor. My G4 (23 lbs.) with very high airflow, good agitation and super easy to push (can be driven with your thumb and forefinger) fits the bill. BUT, I regularly rotate through all my vacuums as daily drivers. All are maintained perfectly and used as much as possible. Bill | ||
| Post# 338398 , Reply# 15 12/2/2015 at 05:40 (3,060 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Excellent point Benny. Also with the likes of Miele and plenty of other brands, you get the same kind of motor with suction pull as you would do with smaller vacs in the same range to the larger ones. Thus, it isn't necessarily better to have a bigger, heavier vacuum - it doesn't always provide the best suction compared to smaller, compact units.
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| Post# 338399 , Reply# 16 12/2/2015 at 09:08 (3,060 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
One important factor to remember is that Europe and the UK is much older than the US. We also have a lot of people in a small space. Many homes over here were never built with things like vacuums and washing machines in mind because they didn't exist, which is tradionally why front-loader washing machines are more popular over here as they could fit under-counter in a small kitchen with no loss of workspace.
There has also historically been huge "class divides" in this country. Rewind to the era of the Industrial revolution, a lot of England (especially in the north) is littered with terraced housing (pictured below). Many of this style of house were built to accomodate mill workers and labourers, being relatively inexpensive. As you can see, there's are tall narrow homes with lots of knooks and crannies to navigate and stairs to go up and down. Not ideal with lugging around a big clunky vacuum and very limited storage. Whilst the popularity of this style of house has gone down, we then moved onto state-rented "council housing". Lots of rooms in these houses, but very boxy and often quite small rooms. Again, these weren't built with the intenion of housing particularly well off people, so vacuums wouldn't have been thought of, in use or storage. Modern homes now tend to be built with utility rooms and more storage, but as the population has increased, new builds aren't necessarily any bigger than houses of old. I grew up in a 3 bed (later extended to 4) ex-Council house. We had a lot of rooms, but they weren't very big. We had a Kirby Legend 2, but given that the rooms were so small, my Mum struggled with it and preferred to use our Panasonic instead. | ||
| Post# 338400 , Reply# 17 12/2/2015 at 09:10 (3,060 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Here's an interesting picture. A mock up of a typically English 1950's style living room.
Try swinging a G series or enourmous powernozzle around that!
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| Post# 338409 , Reply# 18 12/2/2015 at 10:10 (3,060 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338417 , Reply# 19 12/2/2015 at 11:15 (3,060 days old) by wyaple (Pickerington, OH) | ||
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So what would be the ideal power nozzle size then?
For very tight family rooms/bedrooms crammed full of stuff, are people searching for something around 10 inches or smaller then? I just measured all my power nozzles and they range from 12.5" (Rainbow PN2 - 1997) to 15.5" (Kirby H2 Legend - 1987). Only if I need to vacuum some area that is extremely narrow, would I change to some unpowered attachment tool.
Turbo500: If I were to use my 1987 Kirby with no power assist, I agree it would be very difficult to vacuum a room outfitted like your picture (great pic by the way). That being said, my G4 would handle that easily. As long as the handle isn't straight up, the tech drive reduces the back and forth effort tremendously. suckolux: Please tell us which two vacuums you use. I'd love to know what your daily drivers are. Please keep the comments rollin' in... Bill | ||
| Post# 338421 , Reply# 20 12/2/2015 at 12:22 (3,060 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Ok, here goes some news?Daily is Dyson dc44 animal or dc 18, quick, easy, light. Weekly can be Miele Titan, Kenmore power head cannister, cheap, but it has power!Lime green with hepa media bags, or Silverado powerteam.Not everyone's cup of tea I am sure. Btw, that powerhead on the Miele will fit about anywhere and it works pretty well on floors too, lots of edge cleaning, where the Kenmore seems to have none, but stronger on the carpet.
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| Post# 338433 , Reply# 21 12/2/2015 at 16:34 (3,060 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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I guess I have a little bit of a different thught process.
I know for myself living in America we tend to have large houses and large rooms. My Livingroom is pretty big and even when all I'm doing is vacuuming my Livingroom carpet I can put my vacuum more in the middle of the room and the hose is long enough with my power nozzle and it will reach almost every part of the room with hardly much movement. I would think that if you found the perfect size power nozzle and hose that is long enough you would be able to do the same. I did a post about a subject similar to this a few years ago. I have attached the link to this post as well for everyone to read over.
I understand that Homes across the UK and other areas are much smaller and I would think that uprights would make cleaning more difficult because you move the while vacuum unlike a canister you just move the hose and tools. Thoughts? CLICK HERE TO GO TO RainbowD4C's LINK | ||
| Post# 338446 , Reply# 23 12/2/2015 at 17:53 (3,060 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Quite true, but sometimes ya just gotta pull out the big guns to get things "Kirby clean". I encountered this last night when I discovered that my cat had barfed on the carpet in my bedroom. It was on the far side of the bed where I never walk and was completely dry so it must have happened while I was gone for the weekend. My first thought was that I'd need a shampooer but on a whim, I decided to try my Kirby G5 with its uber aggressive Sentria style brush roll and you know what, it beat that dried cat barf right out of the carpet with dry, brute force! There's no trace of it left, none. And no shampooing was necessary. Now that's what I like about my heavy metal machines.
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| Post# 338447 , Reply# 24 12/2/2015 at 17:59 (3,060 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I think perhaps you may like to suggest to the UK Kirby distributors that they perform a dried cat vomit test in the homes where they have called to demonstrate the cleaner. Next to the mattress cleaning session, perhaps? | ||
| Post# 338451 , Reply# 25 12/2/2015 at 19:10 (3,060 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Respectively though if you are vacuuming up dried up cat vomit from a carpet using a dirty fan vacuum, what on earth is being put through the fan and lining the dust air stream channel? The bag isn't going to get all of it.
The photo that Chris/Turbo500 has supplied nails the problem with UK homes in a nutshell - that "typical" view of a 1950's living room could probably be cleaned by a Hoover Junior at the most. Compact, easy to handle and can get through whatever gaps are left. They were powerful enough for the model to stay in production far longer than when it stopped. Even today there are more Hoover Juniors on auction sites in the UK than anything else. Yes whilst a cylinder vac would be even more nimble, UK market has always been pushed to buy uprights because of excess carpet in a home. A few cylinder vacs have been sold with PN's but they were sporadic during the 1950s to 1980s. | ||
| Post# 338467 , Reply# 27 12/2/2015 at 21:33 (3,060 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338468 , Reply# 28 12/2/2015 at 21:46 (3,060 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
I think you are all exaggerating on how "small" UK homes are they are not all serial box terrist houses like Chris showed further up many homes are dethatched or semi-dethatched many modern homes are built a lot bigger like Chris pointed out further up.
I think depending on the layout of your home a Kirby or some other 15" nozzle vacuum is a little too big and I don't particular like the bulkiness of it but many 12" cleaners are pretty standard and very practical in UK homes just as they are in US homes. We must remember that the UK would fit inside a single US state in most cases so you would expect things to be smaller. People (guys) however are the same size in the UK as the US, I can tell you that from experience ;)make of that what you will haha. I wonder if any body was wrongly lead to believe that people in smaller countries are physically smaller haha. | ||
| Post# 338470 , Reply# 29 12/2/2015 at 21:49 (3,060 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338474 , Reply# 30 12/2/2015 at 22:14 (3,060 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Haha, I actually find it very aqwqard with most older UK vacuums and certainly Hoovers, the handles were pretty short and I am 5ft 11 so nearly 6ft and I find I have to stoop with a lot of British vacs as the handle is not tall enough, most modern vacs nowadays are the right height but for some reason vacuums in the 70's,80's and 90s were very short indeed.
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| Post# 338477 , Reply# 31 12/3/2015 at 00:16 (3,060 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 338489 , Reply# 34 12/3/2015 at 04:03 (3,060 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Alex, of course there are bigger homes in the UK. Certainly most new builds are bigger than what I posted*. I was more addressing the root of our love for smaller vacuums, which comes from our traditional houses being much smaller than in the US. So at the time that vacuums were becoming a popular, must have household item, lugging a huge vacuum around your typical British house at that time would've been VERY difficult. Hence the Juniors were so popular.
House sizes may have changed, but our love of inexpensive, lightweight and compact vacuums, as a country, hasn't. *I think Benny has hit the nail on the head with this. New builds aren't getting any bigger, but are using more open plan spaces. So there's less rooms but bigger rooms. A 4 bedroom detached new build property will often be smaller square foot than an older 4 bed semi detached. | ||
| Post# 338493 , Reply# 35 12/3/2015 at 06:53 (3,059 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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New builds to me in Scotland means loads of bloody narrow stairs. Try lugging any vacuum up and down and you'll be rubbing the wall paper off.
From some of the new builds that some of my friends live in where London is concerned, they all seem to have wide and safe-ish shallow steps and carpet that has just been thrown over them, which often becomes a dangerous slide - more appropriate when rushing for work in the mornings.. A few have hand held vacuums rather than hose, tools and cylinders. | ||
| Post# 338540 , Reply# 36 12/4/2015 at 03:20 (3,059 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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There have been programs on TV where owners of new homes could not get the furniture up the stairs. | ||
| Post# 338543 , Reply# 37 12/4/2015 at 03:40 (3,059 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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I find this thread.......
...An interesting confluence with "somebody really hates there (their) henry". .... and with some of the same participants, too.
On the one hand, there is all this discussion of the more limited square footage (square meters) that Brits (and supposedly other "Europeans") have in their homes, AND THUS, don't have room for elaborate vacuums..... Yet Henry is 'SO LOVED', by 'SO MANY people', and for a time in the 90s, Brits were going to vac stores and buying commercial versions of Henry until Numatic decided to branch out into consumer goods and created this cartoon character-like line of vacuums named after British Kings.
Let's review: A Henry vac is essentially a Shop vac that is roughly five times the size of something like a Eureka Mighty Mite which is a little bit larger than a large clothes iron, and about as heavy. The Mighty Mite even stores some of it's attachments on it's self, something Henry apparently does NOT do.
A Mighty Mite, or it's equivalent would seem the perfect match for a typical flat, 2up-2down, semi-detached, or even a nice estate home.
Why then this love affair with Henry? ..... AND WHERE does Henry sleep since Brit homes often do not have more than one closet/wardrobe?
Much like numerous other things that people (of any nationality, gender, or socio-economic level) do, this defies common sense. And I find it, like Henry and his compadre's, endearing. CLICK HERE TO GO TO delaneymeegan's LINK | ||
| Post# 338546 , Reply# 39 12/4/2015 at 03:55 (3,059 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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| Post# 338548 , Reply# 40 12/4/2015 at 04:00 (3,059 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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That's right - Henry is a small dry vacuum cleaner. The wet vac is the Charles. The next one is George, and he wet cleans carpets as well as sucking up water.
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| Post# 338549 , Reply# 41 12/4/2015 at 04:06 (3,059 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Here is the inside of a Henry. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Vintagerepairer's LINK | ||
| Post# 338550 , Reply# 42 12/4/2015 at 04:25 (3,059 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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ah well, I'm bemused by this realization. I thought for certain, one of Henry's benefits was that he could do double duty. In the event that during the rainy season(s), there was a problem with damp, Henry could clean up any mess he was served with. And THIS tid-bit was enough to make Henry's bulbous presence a worth while investment. But no........
And Henry is only a few inches smaller than my shop vac. This makes Henry about the size of a Filter Queen. The likes of which is very quiet and does an EXCELLENT job of filtering BUT; is very cumbersome, heavy, and would also not store on the top shelf of a wardrobe. Frankly, I would much rather use Henry, than a Filter Queen.
Benny, where does Charles get the water/liquid that he uses to wet-clean carpets? Does he have a reservoir with a pump that sprays the fluid through the tubing on the hose, or does he need to be connected to a water source like a tap?
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| Post# 338551 , Reply# 43 12/4/2015 at 04:37 (3,058 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Hello again. It's George that wet-cleans, and as you say he has a built in tank to hold the cleaning water. You fill it from the tap. | ||
| Post# 338552 , Reply# 44 12/4/2015 at 05:20 (3,058 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here) | ||
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I like this commercial for George. Frankly, I've had the equivalent of George, quite a while back actually.
It was called the Sears Cleanmore or the earlier versions were simply called the Kenmore carpet cleaner.
Bissell also had a crappy carpet cleaner in the 90s..... there's a reason they don't make these anymore. As much fun as they were to me, to most people a canister style carpet cleaner is just too much work, for mediocre results.
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| Post# 338558 , Reply# 45 12/4/2015 at 06:18 (3,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Delaney - respectively Numatic are a commercial company by trade and reputation. The Henry concept was to provide a dry only vacuum cleaner tub for commercial areas. The domestic versions were only brought out by customer demand and from there the company brought out specific editions to deal with domestic home mess. Numatic also sold an upright back in the early days but they no longer sell it.
In other countries Numatic have SEBO uprights under their name. 2 in 1 or 3 in 1 vacs do exist; they offer a similar design to what you have supplied here in terms of that Bissell. I for example, own a Vax tub vacuum and was only bought a few months ago after putting up with a Bissell carpet washer. When Vax came to market, UK owners had to deal with the size of adding those machines to their homes. Id hasten to add the size alone made owners realise the similar dimensions of a Numatic should they ever choose to buy one. My late parents owned a Vax 3 in 1 model for 23 years. It does have its downsides; far more bulky to store than Henry (ours lived in our garage) but it offers a lot more power and 3 in 1 cleaning applications such as dry dirt suction, wet & dry function or washing carpet function. There used to be other brands available in the UK such as Hoover, Electrolux and Goblin who all offered 3 in 1 machines, but they have gone out of popularity or production now. Hoover still sell a tub vacuum but it isn't all that well made. Have a look at Numatic history on here - again there are archive threads. The first link (below) shows a lot of the old Numatic models and brochures. www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... (first given as a link) www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 338560 , Reply# 46 12/4/2015 at 07:10 (3,058 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 338572 , Reply# 47 12/4/2015 at 10:34 (3,058 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 338765 , Reply# 48 12/7/2015 at 09:33 (3,055 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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@delaneymeegan, the comparison you made above to the FQ is pretty accurate. A friend of mine has a FQ which he comparably paid a crazy amount for brand new. He wasn't happy when my reaction to trying it was "well apart from the powernozzle, it doesn't do anything a Henry doesn't!" lol. The size is very similar, although I would say the Henry has far more suction power, even with a lower power motor.
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Post# 338771 , Reply# 49 12/7/2015 at 10:46 (3,055 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I have relatives in Ireland, who always had Hoover Juniors
Those houses were always smaller than ours. My cousin came over to visit, saw my 140 yr old house. "It's a fine house", was his comment. He nearly died when he saw the basements, a brand new idea to him. His wife asked how we clean these monsters. I like the Juniors, and have a few of them. A "Dirtsearcher" is on my list of 'must gets'. THey now have a "Henry". I saw it when I was over there.
I haven't posted much recently. A lot has been happening, plus, many of you saw in Miscellanea that my beloved cat, arthur, died Nov 13.I didn't really feel like posting much. So much to do before Christmas. I keep on using my Hoover Convertibles, or, 'seniors", as they are known 'over there' . | ||
| Post# 338973 , Reply# 50 12/9/2015 at 22:05 (3,053 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 338987 , Reply# 51 12/10/2015 at 04:59 (3,052 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Juniors I think the consumers of the day were happy enough with the size of a Junior, Alex, given the millions of Juniors & other cleaners of the same size that were sold over the years. If they weren't happy about the size, I guess they simply loved the colours. | ||
| Post# 338991 , Reply# 52 12/10/2015 at 07:57 (3,052 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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When you consider the Junior had a fill capacity of 7 to 10 or so many litres of dirt, they're nothing like the small and slim compact uprights you can buy nowadays. Ironic really given that Juniors are supposedly smaller given the footprint of a Dyson ball upright. How times HAVEN'T changed.
Photo taken from Sam / beko's video of the old 119 Junior. The Junior seems to be faster to me on pick up. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 338996 , Reply# 53 12/10/2015 at 11:21 (3,052 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 338997 , Reply# 54 12/10/2015 at 12:32 (3,052 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Perhaps all those years of owning a Hoover Turbopower has taught you that. I on the other hand don't find a huge difference between size widths of upright floor heads let alone combi floor heads on cylinder vacs. Infact from what you're suggesting, if the 12" size is quicker, it's more likely to get stuck in the path of cleaning under chairs. Not exactly quick then.
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Post# 339043 , Reply# 55 12/11/2015 at 12:12 (3,051 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 339067 , Reply# 56 12/11/2015 at 22:20 (3,051 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 339074 , Reply# 57 12/12/2015 at 03:12 (3,051 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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And with what, who, and how often also. | ||
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Post# 339078 , Reply# 58 12/12/2015 at 07:50 (3,050 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 339087 , Reply# 59 12/12/2015 at 09:54 (3,050 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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I prefer smaller (canister + small powerhead) in day to day vacuuming, but what it comes to deep cleaning. Well there is a difference... | ||
| Post# 339090 , Reply# 60 12/12/2015 at 10:03 (3,050 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 339092 , Reply# 61 12/12/2015 at 10:12 (3,050 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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Thank you sebo_fan! I got to say that it's by far the most useful accessory I have ever bought. | ||
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