Thread Number: 30515
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
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Post# 338117   11/26/2015 at 12:10 (3,070 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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So, i hear this 'Myth' that Baking soda on your carpet for 10 minutes it good to kill odors if you vacuum it up right away. I did this one time, and I will never do it again. Is it just me or is the Baking soda hard on motors, bearings and bags? I want some thoughts as some of my vacuums smell and i want to know if sucking up some baking soda would help (or should I sprinkle it in the bag)?
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Post# 338118 , Reply# 1   11/26/2015 at 13:57 (3,070 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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~ It's not a myth. It works. Baking soda is a natural deodorizer: * You can put an open box in your fridge to keep it smelling fresher. * You can add 1/4 cup to your laundry. * You can sprinkle a bit in the bottom of the cat box before adding the kitty litter. * You can sprinkle some in the bottom of your garbage can before installing the plastic trash bag. * And, yes, you can sprinkle a LIGHT dusting of it onto your carpeting and leave it alone for an hour or two. HOWEVER, do not vacuum it up with a power nozzle or "dirty air" upright. Use a straight-suction tank or canister. |
Post# 338119 , Reply# 2   11/26/2015 at 14:02 (3,070 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 338124 , Reply# 3   11/26/2015 at 16:32 (3,070 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 338148 , Reply# 4   11/27/2015 at 12:34 (3,069 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)   |   | |
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Agreed. While baking soda and baking soda-based "carpet fresh" products are effective at killing odors, they are also equally effective at killing vacuum cleaners. Remember, baking soda is a SALT and salts promote oxidation of most metals. Without exception, every vacuum I've rescued from the trash was encrusted with that shit. Not a big deal for plastic parts, but metal, especially steel, copper, brass or aluminum, is another story entirely.
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Post# 338149 , Reply# 5   11/27/2015 at 13:24 (3,069 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 338177 , Reply# 6   11/27/2015 at 21:18 (3,069 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Use ONLY the HEPA bags if you're vacing baking soda; baking soda is less likely to go thru the HEPA bag than paper or cloth bags. NEVER use a water type vac (Rainbow, Sirena, Thermax etc) |
Post# 338179 , Reply# 7   11/27/2015 at 21:50 (3,069 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 338180 , Reply# 8   11/27/2015 at 21:54 (3,069 days old) by Marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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In all the years of having any vacuum I can't remember any of them having a stench as described. Even with the thick shag we had in the 60's/70's we had them shampood regularly with a Von Schradder. Even today with the central collection system I'm still waiting to dump it & it's been close to 1 1/2yrs now & it's only half full but no putrid smell in the debris bucket.
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Post# 338192 , Reply# 9   11/28/2015 at 04:40 (3,068 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)   |   | |
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Baking soda works great at sucking up stains on dirty carpet. As others have said, don't use a motorized brush to clean it up. I've found the soda gets on the belts and will cause slippage, which heats up the belt causing it to expand and ruining it.
As for stinky vac bags, remember, ideally we're cleaning up live bacteria, bugs, mites, moisture, dirt, etc. All that stuff, in a paper bag, left on a warm day, for weeks, etc. is bound to created stench as it grows. I used to actively use my Electroluxs, both upright and Olympia. When ever the machines were not in use, I would carefully remove the bag and place it in a plastic shopping bag (or similar) and put it in the freezer. Why? Because the freezing kills the bacteria. And when it comes time to vacuum, put the bag in the machine and the smell is crisp and fresh. Like the smell one gets from a freezer where the fan is blowing the frozen air at you when you open the door. Also, by not leaving the dirt in the machine, the machine stays clean. I would think the bags last longer because they aren't under threat of being consumed by the bacteria in the bag. In addition, for older metal machines, the moisture we pick up when vacuuming would stay in the bag and migrate into the machine, and cause rust. By removing the bag (and I always leave the bag doors open so the machine can ventilate), the moisture is removed, helping to preserve the vac. |
Post# 338198 , Reply# 10   11/28/2015 at 07:45 (3,068 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I think removing the bag is going a step too far. You may as well strip down the whole vacuum including the dust channels and air ways to properly sterilise your vacuum.
After all its all very well removing the bag to eliminate pong but you're not really eliminating the scent because the airways are lined with sludge, dirt and oils associated with household traffic dirt. That's where the stench collects and grows - same with the hoses and the cleaning tools. |
Post# 338225 , Reply# 12   11/28/2015 at 16:01 (3,068 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I'm quite blessed to own a Rainbow E2 black (75th anniversary edition) as well as just having had an HP Vac U Flo central vac (twin motor) installed in my home. So No Odors of any kind with my vacs. That being said, I do have a few bag machines I love, but the hair from our 100 pound border collie was too much to bear. I found the most AWESOME thing in the fabric softener aisle.
The Gain In-Wash Scent Booster beads are wonderful for the vacuum. About 15 of them, vacuumed up into the bag, completely overpowers odors and only the smell of gain (smells like wash day - clean laundry) comes out. TRY SOME, you'll sing its praises too. Suavetelle and Downey makes them too. Their made of wax, and do not harm the vacuum in any way. |
Post# 338235 , Reply# 14   11/28/2015 at 17:18 (3,068 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)   |   | |
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dead and suspended are good. For those that are suspended, it will be virtually as long as they are in there. What I found is the typical "vacuum session" is about 15 minutes. So that is the only time the bag is not in the freezer. There isn't enough time for the bacteria to reawaken and start duplicating. Works great. I wonder how practical removing cumbersome bags is though. Electrolux bags are rubber necked and easily pull out. Things like upright bags can be messy and cumbersome, especially older styles like Eureka's F&G bags. Personally, I wouldn't use a vac that doesn't have an easy change bag. I think if I had something like a Filter Queen, I would remove the power unit and put the entire base in the freezer. Wouldn't even put it in a bag, but would need adequate freezer space. CLICK HERE TO GO TO delaneymeegan's LINK |
Post# 338275 , Reply# 15   11/29/2015 at 11:55 (3,067 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 338296 , Reply# 16   11/30/2015 at 09:38 (3,066 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 338312 , Reply# 17   11/30/2015 at 16:26 (3,066 days old) by cuffs054 (monticello, ga)   |   | |
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I kinda like the Downy lavender. |
Post# 338323 , Reply# 18   11/30/2015 at 20:21 (3,066 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 338414 , Reply# 24   12/2/2015 at 10:37 (3,064 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 338416 , Reply# 25   12/2/2015 at 11:10 (3,064 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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Post# 338457 , Reply# 26   12/2/2015 at 20:06 (3,064 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 338466 , Reply# 27   12/2/2015 at 21:23 (3,064 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 338498 , Reply# 28   12/3/2015 at 09:54 (3,063 days old) by Dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Charles, here are the gain beads.
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Post# 338533 , Reply# 29   12/4/2015 at 00:08 (3,063 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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~ Thanks, Tom. I was at another grocery store today, a much larger one. That store carries the Gain product as well as Downy. I squeezed all the containers and did a "sniff test." The two that I liked best were Gain Original and Downy Fresh Blossoms, so I bought one of each. It will be interesting to see how these do as air fresheners. Thanks for the heads-up on this product. |
Post# 338590 , Reply# 30   12/4/2015 at 14:35 (3,062 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I was having a conversation in another group regarding Lenor Unstoppables which looks like your GAIN beads. A few members told me the following info:
"Butylphenyl methylpropional and Benzyl Salicyclate are both considered to be hormone disruptive and human immune system toxicants, not something you'd want to be breathing in. There is also the disposal warning on the back of the bottle "Avoid release to the environment. Dispose of contents/container to hazardous or special waste collection point. ". Also Benzyl salicylate can be allergic to human skin and if it is added inside the bag of a vacuum cleaner the heat from the airflow may melt the beads. |
Post# 338592 , Reply# 31   12/4/2015 at 14:56 (3,062 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 338593 , Reply# 32   12/4/2015 at 15:02 (3,062 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 338594 , Reply# 33   12/4/2015 at 15:44 (3,062 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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~ "Benzyl Salicylate -- Fragrance (Parfum) from natural essential oils. Benzyl Salicylate is a naturally occurring component of essential oils, such as Ylang-Ylang Oil." CLICK HERE TO GO TO electrolux137's LINK |
Post# 338595 , Reply# 34   12/4/2015 at 15:49 (3,062 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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~ Butylphenyl methylpropional A synthetic pale yellow liquid with a floral aroma. Functions: Used as a fragrance additive. You can find it in various personal care products such as perfume, aftershave lotion, hair shampoo/conditioner, hair dye, moisturizer and body wash. Safety Measures/Side Effects: The topical application of this ingredient has been shown to cause irritation and allergic reactions in many individuals. The International Fragrance Association (IFRA) has restricted its use in fragrances because of the potential dermal sensitization. The European Cosmetics Directive lists this ingredient as an "allergenic" substance, requires all cosmetic products containing it to indicate the presence of Butylphenyl Methylpropional. CLICK HERE TO GO TO electrolux137's LINK |
Post# 338605 , Reply# 35   12/4/2015 at 17:59 (3,062 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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I have used the Bounce Bursts "outdoor fresh" scent beads. Decided to try them earlier this year after seeing the Gain beads mentioned as a solution to stinky vacuum bags. They do work rather well, but I find I prefer using scented fragrance oils & putting a drop or two on the bag or filter, or using activated carbon in the bag.
A couple of tips I have for using the scent beads: 1. Avoid putting the scent beads in the bag when it is new. Wait until the bag starts to smell, then put them in. What I have found when using scented tablets in vacuum bags in the past is that the dirt buries the tablet in the bag, & when the bag starts to smell it makes the tablet useless. If you wait until the bag starts to smell & then put the tablet in, that does work very effectively. So of course this logic would apply to using scent beads. 2. Don't put the scent beads directly into the bag. Go to your local pet shop & buy some of the mesh drawstring bags that are used for activated carbon in fish tanks. A 2-pack of bags can be found for around $5 dollars. Put the mesh bag right by the pre-motor filter in the bag chamber. It will allow the scented beads to let off the most scent without being buried by dirt in the bag, & depending on how much you vacuum & how quickly you fill your vacuum bags, you can make the scented beads last for 2 to 3 bags instead of just 1 bag, so you wind up saving money as well as having the scented beads work better. It also allows scented beads to be used in bagless vacuums. Rob |
Post# 338610 , Reply# 36   12/4/2015 at 19:51 (3,062 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 338632 , Reply# 38   12/5/2015 at 05:25 (3,061 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Thanks for that added info, Electrolux137 but even when using the first site for the search of benzyl salicylate, here's what it says.
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Post# 338634 , Reply# 39   12/5/2015 at 09:24 (3,061 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 338688 , Reply# 40   12/6/2015 at 11:18 (3,060 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 338772 , Reply# 41   12/7/2015 at 10:51 (3,059 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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My late mother used to sprinkle moth crystals, (not balls) on the floors and later vacuum them up. I'd never do that now with a cat in the house.
I've put those scented cork pellets on the floor, though. They are 3safe for bothe the floor and the cleaner. Baking soda is great for cooking, keeping the refrigerator fresh, brushing your teeth, and polishing stainless steel. Carpet Fresh, Love My Carpet, etc is awful, as are any scented beads, in or out of water. THat is only MY opinion. None of that stuff goes on my carpets. THey are Chinese...some are Karastan..100% wool. |
Post# 338788 , Reply# 42   12/7/2015 at 14:30 (3,059 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 338803 , Reply# 43   12/7/2015 at 18:41 (3,059 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 338860 , Reply# 44   12/8/2015 at 10:32 (3,058 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 339030 , Reply# 45   12/11/2015 at 01:32 (3,056 days old) by ohiovac (Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 339033 , Reply# 46   12/11/2015 at 01:47 (3,056 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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The Gain scents haven't damaged your water bin? Rainbow states in their warranties that they are voided if the bin is damaged by other scents not their own.That is why I didn't want to try that in my Rainbows. |
Post# 339072 , Reply# 47   12/12/2015 at 02:57 (3,055 days old) by Ohiovac (Ohio)   |   | |
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