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Post# 338020   11/24/2015 at 07:17 (727 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA)        

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So I was thinking the other night, during the early to mid 2000s almost every vacuum brand had some single cyclonic or filter in the bin bagless dirt cup system. Which ones do you think where the best and which where the worst?




Post# 338053 , Reply# 1   11/24/2015 at 15:20 (727 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Both were God awful! tongue-out

Especially those late 90s bagless Hoovers...all the filter cleaning! The horror!!

 

They were dual cyclonic, but my vote goes for FANTOM! laughing


Post# 338056 , Reply# 2   11/24/2015 at 15:24 (727 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Hmm..

The best?
I'd say the best ones were the Dirt Devil platinum force upright, and the hoover windtunnel twin chamber machines (with the diverter). Both of them had fairly short airpaths and larger filters which I feel gave them an edge over most of the available machines.

The worst?
The Eureka Maxima. It had a smaller filter which clogged instantly and probably 5-6 feet of hose for the air to flow through. It is probably the worst vacuum i have ever used.


Post# 338070 , Reply# 3   11/25/2015 at 09:19 (726 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I would have to agree the dirt devil was probably about the best at that time. I have one of those and I recently took it all apart to service and the motor was surprisingly fairly clean. Then I took my Bissell lift off apart and the motor was absolutely filthy, one of the worst I have even seen. Both vacuums had about the same amount of usage.

Post# 338085 , Reply# 4   11/25/2015 at 16:34 (726 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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hoover vortex



Post# 338120 , Reply# 5   11/26/2015 at 14:39 (725 days old) by jake1234 (greasby)        
dyson

i think the dyson dc01 was the best in 2000.

Post# 338121 , Reply# 6   11/26/2015 at 15:20 (725 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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well the dc04 came out in 1998 so I would say the dc04

but I do love the dc01


Post# 338122 , Reply# 7   11/26/2015 at 15:26 (725 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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Electrolux - The Boss

Cyclone Power


Post# 338123 , Reply# 8   11/26/2015 at 15:36 (725 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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vax bubble I think 2000-2001-2002

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Post# 338135 , Reply# 9   11/27/2015 at 00:31 (724 days old) by vacmaster (Southern California)        
Eureka Whirlwind By FAR

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Dustcup gets SO dirty SO fast. Its a NIGHTMARE to clean.

Post# 338142 , Reply# 10   11/27/2015 at 09:03 (724 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Agree! I had one given to me, OMG I think it needed cleaning every room.

Post# 338153 , Reply# 11   11/27/2015 at 14:25 (724 days old) by vacmaster (Southern California)        
Right!

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Who wants to see a pic of how bad mine got after only 6 MINUTES of cleaning? It was clean like new.


Post# 338155 , Reply# 12   11/27/2015 at 14:47 (724 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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I do!

Post# 338157 , Reply# 13   11/27/2015 at 15:07 (724 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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I do too

Post# 338160 , Reply# 14   11/27/2015 at 16:38 (724 days old) by Vacmaster (Southern California)        
Its Discusting

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I know it's technically not a whirlwind but it's a refurbished model that's why it says the boss bagless widetrack instead of whirlwind, so its the exact same thing

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Post# 338161 , Reply# 15   11/27/2015 at 16:50 (724 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Chicago Suburbs)        

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What was Eureka thinking?

Post# 338163 , Reply# 16   11/27/2015 at 17:00 (724 days old) by Vacmaster (Southern California)        


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Agreed

Post# 338164 , Reply# 17   11/27/2015 at 17:02 (724 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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wow that's bad

Post# 338166 , Reply# 18   11/27/2015 at 17:08 (724 days old) by citroenbx (england)        
PANASONIC MC-E472

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well speaking of rubbish bagless vacuums here's one

but the sad thing is the bag version was better


Post# 338167 , Reply# 19   11/27/2015 at 17:42 (724 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA)        

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The Whirlwind performs very well. But that dirt cup was just a disaster. It was hard to empty and clean the second chamber that the "cyclone" was in.

Post# 338178 , Reply# 20   11/27/2015 at 21:24 (724 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

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XXX DuoPower; U had TWO dirt containers to empty. Large one for larger debris; smaller container (where filter is located) behind the large container holds the fine dust/dirt

Post# 338188 , Reply# 21   11/27/2015 at 23:26 (724 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I personally haven't met a bag less vacuum I like yet.

Post# 338224 , Reply# 22   11/28/2015 at 15:52 (723 days old) by Vacmaster (Southern California)        

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Anyone have any other horrible bagless systems?


Post# 338227 , Reply# 23   11/28/2015 at 16:11 (723 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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I have owned both I hated them from the start

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Post# 338269 , Reply# 24   11/29/2015 at 10:02 (722 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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you have to know, after trying to use it and give it away, it got parted out!

Post# 338273 , Reply# 25   11/29/2015 at 11:46 (722 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)        
My family owned a Whirlwind back when I was growing up..

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The bagless system wasn't very efficient, but better than anything Eureka produced for about 15 years afterward. The real problem was that the two pre-motor filters were extremely thin, and not sealed, so they let a ton of dirt into the motor. Our first-gen Whirlwind (that I begged my Mom for haha), had a burned out-motor after just a year of use. I took great care of that piece of garbage too. My parents were furious!

At the time we didn't have Dysons in the US, and I thought the style of the Whirlwind was so radical and different, in yellow and gray, with a clear hose. I didn't know that Eureka had just blatantly copied Dyson, their bagless tech, and their style!

Eureka got sued over that vacuum by Dyson, and they're still playing catch-up with their horrible bagless models, which finally have dual-cyclonic filtration again.

In the US, the late 90's and early 2000's were a pretty dark time for bagless vacuums, and department store machines in general. Not to say they're all great now, but there are much better options than there were, and a lot of companies learned from their mistakes, after a decade of high-maintenance, weak-performing, poor-filtering machines. A lot of those early bagless offerings were huge and heavy too, and their on-board tools were nearly useless!




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Post# 338332 , Reply# 26   12/1/2015 at 04:29 (720 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Most bagless vacuums-clean their way to the dumpster!Or they wait out their final life on the curb--waiting for their pressing fate in the trash truck!

Post# 339154 , Reply# 27   12/13/2015 at 04:01 (708 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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I don't like the big filters sitting in the middle of the dirt cup like what Dirt Devil did most of the time!!

This Altima really annoys me though. Mainly cause the foam filters accomplish basically nothing. I have taken in and restored about 6 of this style machine over the years and have told myself never to do it a again. The entire machine, every part just gets caked in dirt!!

The dirt cup only really retains large dirt particles. When you take that out there is a mess of dirt all around the dirt cup compartment. There is a foam filter compartment just above the dirt cup. This filters turns horrendous in a just minute of vacuuming and power of the vacuum decreases quick. It's a foam overlay on a white felt like material. Don't worry this dual filter combo doesn't stop a heavenly layer of dust from forming on the plastic intake towards motor area behind the filter!!

The motor areas of these machines are filthy. The headlight is kept in its own separate compartment and all of those compartments are always caked in dirt and the bulbs needs cleaning on each of the machines I've worked of this series!!


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Post# 339162 , Reply# 28   12/13/2015 at 13:17 (708 days old) by reo580 (Holland, Michigan)        
Ah- The 2000's bag-less machines..... Good Times Good Ti

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Most of the pictures of the late 90's to mid 2000's I saw on this thread made me smile and chuckle. I was working as a vacuum cleaner repairman in the mid 2000's. God, how I hated those bagless machines!!! Especially the yellow and gray dual chamber Eureka Whirlwind- That was my enemy #1.

I remember that people would see them on TV - and buy them. Then they would never maintain them and by the time they were on my repair bench, they were pretty much FUBAR'ed beyond any hope. Another laugh I got at that time was their owners were incredibly cheap- they's balk at a $10.00 belt job.

My favorite was that most of the Jon Q's that bought them thought that "Bagless" meant "maintenance-less". I can remember calling a customer with a quote and he was shocked that it needed new belt and filters "But it's Bagless!! It shouldn't need any of that" he said over the phone as he then blew a gasket and threw a hissy fit over the final cost of the repair.

At the time we used Compressed air to blow out the housings of the machines. Most of them were in pet households. My biggest pet peeve ( no pun intended) was when I would blow them out and the stench of "PET" would blow all over me.
That would really make my day.

But I digress, seeing the photos of some of those machines brought back memories and gave me a good laugh.


Post# 339164 , Reply# 29   12/13/2015 at 13:33 (708 days old) by Mike81 ()        

It's funny how bagless vacuums have been around for decades.
For example my aunt got Hitachi C-V160GN vacuum cleaner for wedding present around the mid 70's.
It had very large filter and filter had cleaning mechanism where you rotated the handle to clean it. It worked just okay. Most effective way to clean the filter was banging it against outside wall or something.
She still had it in the early 90's. Very good quality vacuum. She really liked it alot.
I don't remember any loss of suction problems or dust building up around other parts of the machine.
So there is alot of "cyclonic" vacuum cleaners out there that performs much worse.


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Post# 367544 , Reply# 30   2/25/2017 at 22:44 (268 days old) by Buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        

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Best:Dyson DC07

Worst: Bissell Cleanview


Post# 367616 , Reply# 31   2/27/2017 at 16:57 (266 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        

Best: Bissell PowerForce Bagless
Decent: Dirt Devil Vision
Bad: Hoover Twin Chamber
Horrid: Eureka Maxima and Altima


Post# 367617 , Reply# 32   2/27/2017 at 17:00 (266 days old) by crazykirbydude (Lexington, KY)        
OH MY GOD!!!

Eureka Capture!!! The filter was terrible and it had way too many. The brushroll was absolute garbage and they were notorious for having motor problems.

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Post# 378869 , Reply# 33   9/24/2017 at 11:41 by Buster1849 (Chattanooga,TN)        

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Proof that the original cleanview was the absolute worst and dirtiest. Note: I got this vacuum as a refurb earlier this year and have not even used it that much yet there is already a bearing going bad in the motor and it is filthy. Here are some pictures.

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Post# 380134 , Reply# 34   10/22/2017 at 11:58 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

Bagged machines are better.

Post# 380148 , Reply# 35   10/22/2017 at 18:36 by broomvac (N/A)        
Hoover Twin Chamber Bagless "Elite"

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For a little while I had one of those odd, green 12-amp Hoover Twin Chamber Bagless vacuums with an "Elite" type motor. So although it was was bagless, it actually used a fan-first "dirty air" type motor. The dirt was blown into the twin chamber bagless dust cup.

Not only was the system susceptible to losing suction due to the screen blocking up and the pleated filter clogging, but it leaked dust horribly because the dust cup had a positive gauge pressure instead of negative due to the fan-first system. If you lifted the cleaner by its designated upper carry handle above the dust cup, then the body of the cleaner would flex and relieve pressure from the lid of the dust cup. Then dust would come blowing out like crazy! The design was pretty miserable. Thank goodness for modern cyclonic systems.

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Post# 380149 , Reply# 36   10/22/2017 at 18:52 by carolinaguy1996 (Candler, NC)        

I might've had one of those too. My first bagless because Dysons were not in America at the time.




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