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Thread Number: 30306
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| Post# 336178 10/25/2015 at 13:32 (3,104 days old) by absolutepurple (Nottinghamshire) | ||
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Hi guys been on this group before but locked my self out a while back. Used to be a big dyson fan but im all about numatic at the moment. Who else is a fan of them on here and what machines do you have? :) | ||
| Post# 336182 , Reply# 1 10/25/2015 at 15:28 (3,104 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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I love Numatics, Henry's in particular, even though I don't have one! I should get one TBH, they are one of the best cylinder vacuums, if not the best IMHO. I heard good things about the Airobrush in particular and would love one of them aswell. -Tayyab | ||
| Post# 336220 , Reply# 2 10/26/2015 at 07:11 (3,104 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
I honestly think Numatic vacuums are boring as sin, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The basic design works in their favour - a nice, simple, straight forward tub vac. And the lack of frills means they tend to be more reliable than a lot of other brands.
Definitely one of the best cleaners on the market today. | ||
| Post# 336238 , Reply# 4 10/26/2015 at 15:12 (3,103 days old) by absolutepurple (Nottinghamshire) | ||
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I have a 620w single speed james 2014 model and a 2013 henry 1200w autosave with airobrush. Like people say boring design but practical and simple to use. Has anyone used a hairo brush? Been thinking of getting one but seen some quite bad reviews on them. Comments would be much appreciated regarding the hairobrush. | ||
| Post# 336243 , Reply# 5 10/26/2015 at 15:49 (3,103 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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The hairo brush is smaller than the Airobrush, it's about 15 cm I think, bigger than a handheld turbo brush though | ||
| Post# 336314 , Reply# 6 10/27/2015 at 14:28 (3,102 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
The Hairo brush is similar to the one that Hotpoint equip with their Trolley vacs. I don't like it. The pivot neck has a constant "down" angle and it is awkward to use. So much easier to buy the Wilko turbo brush which is an Electrolux turbo brush with the risor visor OR a Wessel Werk turbo brush since they are 32mm sized.
BTW I did have a Henry HVR 200-A eco version. But it has now been sold. It was good at the time. I've had a few Henry models but I have a soft spot for the more basic James model fitted with Henry tubes though as the aluminium ones are hellish in my experience. | ||
| Post# 336321 , Reply# 7 10/27/2015 at 15:23 (3,102 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
I used to have one... | ||
Post# 336385 , Reply# 9 10/28/2015 at 04:14 (3,102 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Oh yes-like the simple Henry crank cordwinder-no springs to wear or break!!!Pretty clever-wished other vac makers did that. | ||
| Post# 336535 , Reply# 10 10/30/2015 at 03:57 (3,100 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
IMHO, Numatic has the best cord winder on the market. Unlike many automatic winders, it won't whip the plug against the machine, nor does it require you to coax the last few feet of cord in manually. Because you crank it yourself, it just winds reliably every time.
The tools are another strong point. I have read criticism once (can't remember where) that they are too basic and not "ergonomic" enough, although I'd counter that by saying many cleaners past and present have had hose ends that were over-designed to the point of being an absolute PITA to use for above floor cleaning. With the Numatic kit, you can configure the straight and curved tubes in any combination you like, or dispense with them altogether and attach the tools directly to the hose end if preferred. Makes it a lot easier to attain exactly the right angle and amount of reach needed, so you don't have to perform contortions when cleaning in tight areas. | ||
| Post# 336539 , Reply# 11 10/30/2015 at 06:41 (3,100 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well I wouldn't go as far to say that the plugs dont whip off the side of Henry and associated Numatic models. Certainly in the schools that I have worked in, you can see the obvious scratches that the plugs have bounced off the rubberised body. I've also seen the way tired and stressed cleaners wind up the cable very quickly without even thinking about the last precious seconds of how the plug is going to bounce off the body and it always does. I think it is more to do with the rather clever way in which Numatic have retained the rubberised bowler hat body on top to prevent that part of the machine at the very least to withstand scratches etc.
I think it may well have been me in my product reviews where I have slated the tools. They're durable and I find they are far better than the nonsense that Bosch use for their own small cleaning tools, but despite how versatile and durable Numatic's tools actually are, I'm surprised that Numatic hasn't taken the time as yet to develop a suitable storage area on board for the tools to go to. Again I know it points to the commercial origins of the basic vac's design, but if you're going to sell to a domestic market, on board tool storage would give Henry at least a more modern and accessible advantage. I was a bit disappointed to find that when I bought my last Numatic Henry (only last year) that it no longer came with the funky red fabric tool bag that Numatic used to supply machines with. In some ways having the tool bag actually makes sense in lieu of no tool storage at all. Also there are plenty of Henry owners who just whip off the tubes and use the bent part of the metal bent pole for cleaning corners etc. It inevitably gets scuffed and in some cases the end gets bent making replacement necessary if the tubes need refitting. | ||
| Post# 336544 , Reply# 12 10/30/2015 at 10:24 (3,100 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Maybe I should have qualified that statement with "provided the user isn't heavy-handed". Some people could tear up an anvil, particularly if they're not the ones paying for it. Point I was trying to make is that the Numatic winder at least gives one control over how quickly the cable winds.
For tool storage, Numatic could quite easily fit slots between the rear wheels as Kerstar have done. They've already modified the tub in the past to add the rear guard and later the parking bracket, so it baffles me why they didn't do something like this on either occasion while they were at it:
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| Post# 336546 , Reply# 13 10/30/2015 at 11:11 (3,099 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I suspect that having slots in the machine would either cause cracks on the underside or other damage if and when Henry vacs fall over. They may be stubby but sometimes they do fall over.
The tool compartment in the Karcher VC6000 vac is impressive but I dont think these cool looking machines ever made it to the UK. Pip locking tools that are stored in a top opening side door slot.
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| Post# 336610 , Reply# 15 10/31/2015 at 07:00 (3,099 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 336614 , Reply# 16 10/31/2015 at 07:56 (3,099 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire) | ||
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I had the Karcher long before I was on Youtube. I am hankering for another if I can get one, though the new versions are 600 watts. | ||
| Post# 336786 , Reply# 17 11/2/2015 at 17:59 (3,096 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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I would like to SEE a Henry I have never found one here in the South East...I think I might like one. | ||
| Post# 336871 , Reply# 18 11/4/2015 at 06:31 (3,095 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Do Go-Vacuum no longer sell them in the U.S? I thought they did. Looks like they sell through Amazon.com
The original advert shown worldwide CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 337044 , Reply# 19 11/7/2015 at 09:45 (3,091 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
I don't see what all the hype is with Henry's, they are just an extremely basic cylinder vacuum. Very boring cleaners indeed. And if it were not for the smiley face and name, I don't think they would have quite the appeal, certainly not to the Domestic market.
That said I do like them and have a couple myself. | ||
| Post# 337045 , Reply# 20 11/7/2015 at 09:46 (3,091 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 337050 , Reply# 21 11/7/2015 at 13:00 (3,091 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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It's the plain and boring that makes them the sucess. | ||
| Post# 337051 , Reply# 22 11/7/2015 at 13:12 (3,091 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I dont see what all the hype is
Well its interesting that you say that Alex.
Lets take a look at the "rivals" who try to make tub vacuums, and possibly well before Henry vacs came onto the domestic market. Apart from Karcher, the other brand that springs to mind who make tub vacuums is Hoover and previously Electrolux and Goblin/Aqua Vac. Back in 2011 to 2013 Hoover made the MultiFunction Pro vacuums. Only they supplied them with short plastic tubes, silly array of clip on tools and to top it all off, an unstable disposition. And yes I tried one, but rather, the more basic red model. Not bad wee tubs in my experience if judging the body alone including the tool storer idea but built with such awful accessories to use it. End of the day Henry might be "boring" but he has been designed well. And have parts and consumables that aren't either so difficult to obtain to keep it going or are built with a bit of common sense.
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| Post# 337059 , Reply# 23 11/7/2015 at 16:33 (3,091 days old) by vacuumlover (UK) | ||
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I have to agree with Alex, I personally find them boring too. | ||
| Post# 337086 , Reply# 24 11/8/2015 at 10:01 (3,090 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
What's not to love about Numatics? Other than the facts they perform no better than any other straight suctions cylinder on carpets, for everything else and hard flooring, they are bang on. Very simple design, they last forever, very good quality materials, solidly built, large, cheap bags with great filtration and inexpensive for what it is and to top it off, it is British built! Right down to the ball bearings and ground up plastic.
If they only done a PN version, somewhat better than the Henry hound. If it had a SEBO PT1 head or whatever the one is sued for the Felix, it would be perfect. | ||
| Post# 337151 , Reply# 25 11/9/2015 at 17:33 (3,089 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 337192 , Reply# 26 11/10/2015 at 01:52 (3,089 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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What he said ^ | ||
| Post# 337217 , Reply# 27 11/10/2015 at 08:54 (3,089 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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