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Thread Number: 30230
/ Tag: 50s/60s/70s Vacuum Cleaners
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Post# 335610 , Reply# 1 10/12/2015 at 18:17 (3,112 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Steve,
1. Your Classic III obviously has the wrong handle assembly, that's why. The handle assembly on yours is for a model 516 to 561. Someone else replaced the original one with that. 2. Your Classic III appears to have been made in the summer 1977 timeframe going by its serial number, while your Tradition was made in the fall 1979 timeframe judging by its serial number. 3. Where to start? The original 10-blade metal fan had since been replaced with a gray Lexan plastic fan. The headlight lock button is going out. I can recommend Kent Oyler's eBay site, Kirby Needs, for some of the more common parts. http://stores.ebay.com/Kirby-Needs... But be aware that several parts are NLA for your version of the Tradition's headlight cap, such as the headlight lock button assembly. 4. The Mini Emtor is a common replacement part for models 516 to Tradition to allow the use of the G4/G5-style HEPA disposable bags on these machines. ~Ben
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Post# 335611 , Reply# 2 10/12/2015 at 18:23 (3,112 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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rfostoria
Steve,
His store I mentioned has this metal fan you may want for your Tradition: http://www.ebay.com/itm/used-Metal-10-Bl... ~Ben | ||
| Post# 335615 , Reply# 3 10/12/2015 at 19:52 (3,112 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York) | ||
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Im not sure what machine is picture #3, but what ever machine it is has a bad safety switch, it looks like it is stuck in the high speed position which will cause premature carbon brush wear, premature belt wear, make the machine louder, make it harder to push, you should replace the speed switch. | ||
| Post# 335616 , Reply# 4 10/12/2015 at 20:04 (3,112 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
Welcome
Congratulations on your Kirby purchases. Be aware it can become an obsession. You definitely got both machines for good prices. Besides being very well made, Kirbys are fairly easy to work on as long as you have decent screwdriver skills. The aluminum on both machines can easily be polished to gleam like new. There are plenty of Kirby restoration and repair videos on YouTube that will show you how to do these things. Keep us posted on how your machines progress.
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| Post# 335620 , Reply# 5 10/12/2015 at 22:25 (3,112 days old) by rfostoria () | ||
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Thanks everyone. Is the metal fan notably better than the plastic ones? And, yes, that speed switch is definitely getting replaced. | ||
| Post# 335621 , Reply# 6 10/12/2015 at 23:12 (3,112 days old) by rfostoria () | ||
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Oh, I also forgot. It looks like the Tradition's previous owner was using its bag as a shake-out bag, despite having a full length zipper. Is that ok, or should I get it an aftermarket Sani-Pocket replacement bag instead? | ||
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Post# 335624 , Reply# 8 10/12/2015 at 23:33 (3,112 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 335644 , Reply# 9 10/13/2015 at 17:12 (3,111 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
vacman1961
That safety switch is on the Classic III, the early Tradition has the safety switch in the light hood. The later Traditions had a safety switch like the Classic III.
The Safety Switch part # is 134380 used on the Classic Omega, III and late model Tradition. If you can find a Kirby dealer that still has a safety switch for the Classic III they usually charge about $60 for the switch. The safety switch in the light hood for the Tradition hasn't been available for years. | ||
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Post# 335647 , Reply# 10 10/13/2015 at 17:36 (3,111 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 335655 , Reply# 11 10/13/2015 at 18:21 (3,111 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Nasty bags...
My G5 had been used without an inner bag. It was so nasty that the best option for it was to replace the outer bag. If the outer bag on your Tradition is in good shape (i.e., no holes), you can probably launder it--take it off the machine, turn it inside out, wash on delicate cycle and line dry (DON'T put it in the dryer) and use it with the proper inner filter bag. If the condition is too bad, you'll probably be better off replacing it, which will likely cost between $30 and $50. You'll have to decide whether you want an old-fashioned shakeout bag or a more modern arrangement with an internal filter bag. If it were mine, I'd opt for the latter. It's just neater and easier to deal with.
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| Post# 335666 , Reply# 12 10/13/2015 at 21:37 (3,111 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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KirbyClassicIII
Thank you Captain Obvious
I was responding to vacman1961 who didn't know which model's safety switch was in picture 3. If you notice in some of the other pictures the Tradition has the lock button for the safety switch on the light hood so logic would tell you that out of the two vacuums the safety switch that is mounted below the attachment bar would have to be from the Classic III. | ||
| Post# 335668 , Reply# 13 10/13/2015 at 22:07 (3,111 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 335669 , Reply# 14 10/13/2015 at 22:32 (3,111 days old) by rfostoria () | ||
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All of those taken-apart photos are of the Tradition. I checked the Classic III for reference, and it has the same switch that the Tradition does, which I was able to find for sale at the Ebay store listed above. | ||
| Post# 335930 , Reply# 15 10/19/2015 at 22:47 (3,105 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
It's the Tradition in Pic 3 | ||
| Post# 335959 , Reply# 17 10/20/2015 at 20:07 (3,104 days old) by rfostoria () | ||
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Although, here's a good question: How do I actually remove the old plastic fan from this vacuum cleaner? I found a video where a guy is working on a Heritage and says to put something through the hole on the impeller shaft, but mine doesn't have that. | ||
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Post# 335967 , Reply# 18 10/20/2015 at 22:12 (3,104 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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rfostoria
Steve,
On such older impeller fans, you have to have a special fan locking tool (part no. T130 for models Omega to Legend II) to keep the fan from moving while attempting to remove it. I think you saw this video, didn't you? Another user has a tutorial for how to install a metal fan into a Heritage II Legend: (part 1) (part 2) ~Ben | ||
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Post# 335968 , Reply# 19 10/20/2015 at 22:19 (3,104 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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rfostoria | ||
| Post# 336139 , Reply# 21 10/24/2015 at 16:37 (3,100 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Post# 336143 , Reply# 22 10/24/2015 at 17:13 (3,100 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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rfostoria | ||
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