Thread Number: 29920
/ Tag: Pre-1950 Vacuum Cleaners
Hoover Special Model 105 |
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Post# 332852   8/30/2015 at 17:43 (3,133 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Picked this up yesterday
There was no belt on the brushroll, the cord is brittle, cleaned out the bag then vacuumed it, patched the hole near the bag ring and sprayed it with Resolve fabric freshener. Put a new spring on the bag. Today I washed it in the washer on the gentle cycle then hung it out in the sun to dry. The motor runs, I've adding 3 drops of oil over several hours. At first I put a Hoover 44783 belt on then decided to put a Koblenz belt on instead so it would be less strain on the bearings. I'd like to get the brushroll apart and repack the bearings. The ends just unscrew but are stuck with age, so I have to be really careful. I thought it was interesting that the Hoover listing for the 105 lists serial #'s as 57,500 to 674,900 and 5,000,000 to 5,299,999 and yet the serial # on this one is 5056. There is a picture of the plate with the last patent date being April 6 1920. The handle is wood but has been painted a hammertone pinkish silver, so it almost looks like aluminum. The first two pictures are from Craigslist The rest are after I got it home. |
Post# 332888 , Reply# 1   8/31/2015 at 09:43 (3,132 days old) by HisMastersVoice (Ferndale, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 332893 , Reply# 2   8/31/2015 at 10:11 (3,132 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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That's a vac shop rebuild. The handle is wrong, so is the switch. The red paint job was poorly done to make it look newer. The serial number plate could be purchased as a Hoover repair part, hence the serial number change. The original brush roller for the 105 did not use ball bearings - the bearings in my 105 brush roller (all original) are wood.
While it's a nice find to have for parts, it would take a LOT of time and money (not to mention at least one other machine) to make it back into an original Hoover. The 105 was the first Hoover to have a motor built by the Hoover company. |
Post# 334775 , Reply# 4   9/28/2015 at 23:02 (3,104 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 334866 , Reply# 5   9/30/2015 at 01:48 (3,102 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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Not so much. All Hoover literature states the 105 (not to mention the 102) utilized ball bearings in the brush roll. The only model that did not use ball bearings would be the early run model O...which used string bearings (which were later switched to sleeve, then ball bearings). No where in any service literature was there ever any mention of "wooden bearings".
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Post# 334881 , Reply# 6   9/30/2015 at 11:47 (3,102 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Wood bearings. Ball bearings were NOT used on Hoover brush rollers until the model 541. It's one of the ten 'step up' features that the original ad for the 541 listed.
Here is the WOOD bearing from my 105's brush roller.
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Post# 334900 , Reply# 7   9/30/2015 at 14:27 (3,102 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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Why is there no reference to wooden bearings in ANY Hoover service guide? Not a single one.
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Post# 334909 , Reply# 8   9/30/2015 at 15:36 (3,102 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 334910 , Reply# 9   9/30/2015 at 15:47 (3,102 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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I have felt washers at each end that go up against the bearing that look like that.
There is the bearing, then the felt washer, then a metal washer, then the wheel that screws on the end of the brush rod. If you look at the listing for part number 83, 84, 86A and 86B make your own decision.
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Post# 334912 , Reply# 10   9/30/2015 at 15:54 (3,102 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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First, do not call me "child". I won't ask you again. Now that that's settled, being the history geek I am, I emailed the Hoover Historical Center. They have no record of that model using anything other than a sleeve bearing...not a wooden one. I'm more apt to take their word seeing as though they are an official museum and have manufacturing information that is a bit more reliable than word of mouth. Perhaps your cleaner was "rigged".
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Post# 334914 , Reply# 11   9/30/2015 at 15:57 (3,102 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 334919 , Reply# 12   9/30/2015 at 16:05 (3,102 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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Post# 334920 , Reply# 13   9/30/2015 at 16:05 (3,102 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 334921 , Reply# 14   9/30/2015 at 16:07 (3,102 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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Post# 334938 , Reply# 16   9/30/2015 at 19:24 (3,102 days old) by DesiredName (Utah)   |   | |
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