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Thread Number: 29779
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Post# 331605 , Reply# 2 8/13/2015 at 01:45 (3,172 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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I use BOTH machines--upright for carpet(Kirby,Royal,Sanitaire,Tacony tandem air) for carpets-Canisters for anything else.(NSS M1,Sebo D2,Meile,TriStar,Compact) | ||
| Post# 331619 , Reply# 3 8/13/2015 at 10:20 (3,172 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 331624 , Reply# 6 8/13/2015 at 12:04 (3,172 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Canisters have all the advantages as far as attachment use goes. Uprights simply cannot compete. Canister vacuums are the preferred machine for people who dust with their dusting brush, who vacuum the sofa each time they come to it, who use the crevice tool every time they clean, and who vacuum their floors with the bare floor brush. People who vacuum ceiling fan blades, dust shelves, walls, and ceilings. People who clean their car, stairs, or under beds. People with Rainbow canister vacuums can mop floors, unclog drains, blow up balloons, dry spots on the rug, and suck up car barf with no ill effect on the machine. Upright just clean rugs. They are terrible with attachments - the stretch hoses are a nightmare. Uprights are heavy, much louder, and much bigger when used with attachments. They also fall over.
Ideally, a home would have a canister vacuum for "cleaning house" and an upright to maintain the carpets. I have always used a canister (although I have uprights for 'quick cleaning', I grew up with the wonderful Rainbow and go to know about ALL its uses. So far, I've never seen any other vacuum that could do MORE than a Rainbow. In fact, I've never seen any other vacuum that could do as much as a Rainbow either. | ||
| Post# 331628 , Reply# 7 8/13/2015 at 12:56 (3,172 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
For me it's just a preference. I bought a brand new Shark Powered True Pet and for the most part I liked it. I prefer my canister the most just because regardless it's easier for me to clean around the furniture, up the stairs, up the walls knocking cobwebs. Uprights just don't give me the flexibility that I need when cleaning. I use my Rainbow more than I use my Shark, just because it's a preference for me. When I do use the Shark I use it mostly as the lift away or upright because the hose is hard to work with. Most uprights today the hoses are difficult to work with which is why I chose to use a canister.
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| Post# 331644 , Reply# 8 8/13/2015 at 15:57 (3,172 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
It really depends...
Up until the past few months, during which I fitted my PN1 with a new brush roll and acquired a nice PN2, I used my upright Kirby G5 and G6 machines for the carpeted areas and my Electrolux metal canisters (1205 and Super J) for the hardwood floors. Now, I'm just as likely to use an Electrolux on the carpet because it's lighter and more maneuverable in tight spaces. I've also recently acquired a Hoover Quik Broom Supreme that I use on the hardwoods, even though a broom and dustpan work just as well.
When it comes to using other tools, I'll always reach for the canister because it's more convenient to just disconnect the power nozzle and maybe the wand as well, and put on whatever tool I need. Not only is it more convenient, but the Electrolux hoses and tools are all far superior in quality to their Kirby counterparts. When I was nine years old, I was mightily impressed when the Kirby salesman who demoed a Classic Omega in our living room showed how easy it was to turn it into a 'canister' but as an adult more than 40 years later, I find that conversion process on my own Kirbys to be a total pain in the posterior and not worth the trouble. I use them for what they're best at--vacuuming carpets in an upright position--and use an Electrolux canister for everything else. | ||
| Post# 331648 , Reply# 9 8/13/2015 at 16:23 (3,172 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 331861 , Reply# 12 8/16/2015 at 20:27 (3,168 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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I love to use a good upright on the carpets, but they are room rugs?? so after that there is over half the house still not cleaned, need a hose! Happy I have both of course.On the long weekly clean it's a cannister/ powerhead so I can do it all.Used to take me half a day, now I am done, as in tired of it at about 2 hours.
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Post# 331862 , Reply# 13 8/16/2015 at 20:31 (3,168 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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"To Each His Own" | ||
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Post# 331863 , Reply# 14 8/16/2015 at 20:31 (3,168 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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We were always upright vacuum people in our family. Although I know attachments aren't the strongest, for everyday, they're fine. However, for canister cleaning, I DO appreciate the Constellation.. great suction, great tools, etc. I have a Connie plugged in at all times, ready to go. I even like the Celebrity..... looks like a crushed, (compressed) Connies......... excellent suction, large bag, Ultraflex hose (L O V E that hose), etc. John | ||
| Post# 331864 , Reply# 15 8/16/2015 at 20:40 (3,168 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Post# 331866 , Reply# 16 8/16/2015 at 21:03 (3,168 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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Post# 331870 , Reply# 17 8/16/2015 at 22:51 (3,168 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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| Post# 331879 , Reply# 18 8/17/2015 at 05:35 (3,168 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
 Personally, I find you get far more flexibility with a cannister vacuum. Going from hard floors, to thick carpet, to stairs, to upholstery, to dusting, to cleaning the car all without having to change machines. I don't think I've found a surface yet that can't be vacuumed with a cannister.
Uprights are far better for larger areas of carpet. Of course, over the years, uprights have developed dramatically in terms of on-board tools for above floor cleaning, but I find using an upright for hose use can be quite cumbersome.
At home, I usually have both an upright and a cylinder on the go for various jobs. The urpright is my go-to quick clean up machine. The wider cleaning head and upright position make a nice mid-week tidy up very quick and easy. But when it comes to doing the big clean up on the weekend when I do all the dusting and vacuum behind the furniture, the cylinder and all the tools come out to play. | ||
| Post# 331884 , Reply# 19 8/17/2015 at 06:37 (3,168 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
In my opinion, an upright is best used for carpeting and nothing else. A canister is much easier to use for all other cleaning tasks.
Combination vacs (power nozzle canisters and uprights with onboard tools) end up compromising cleaning effectiveness and ease of use in an attempt to merge the two devices. They are also heavier and bulkier and complicated and over-engineered and more prone to have problems. For me, it's much easier to start cleaning a room with a suction only canister from top to bottom - even getting rid of surface litter on carpet with the carpet nozzle. Then I use my low-amp lightweight fan-first upright to finish the room by deep cleaning the carpet from far end to door - backing out as I go along. So much easier to clean with a pair of vacs like this. | ||
| Post# 331889 , Reply# 20 8/17/2015 at 09:56 (3,168 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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In my own opinion.
I think that a canister with a good power nozzle, and long hose it just as effective as an upright. I hardly use my Shark. I use it mostly if the pet hair is to much for the Rainbow, or if I just don't feel like fumbling with the water tank. I have a huge livingroom and I can vacuum the entire living room and maybe only move the Rainbow twice if I'm just doing the carpets. If I'm doing the furniture and knocking cobwebs then I am more prone to move the vacuum a little more keeping it close to me.
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| Post# 331890 , Reply# 21 8/17/2015 at 10:19 (3,168 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
I agree! In some cases, I think a PN cylinder is better as cylinder/canister vacs tend to generate more suction than uprights. | ||
| Post# 331903 , Reply# 22 8/17/2015 at 16:17 (3,168 days old) by luxman107 (USA ) | ||
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How do you do above the floor cleaning or hard surface floors without a canister? | ||
| Post# 331906 , Reply# 23 8/17/2015 at 16:47 (3,168 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana) | ||
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canister cleaning... I use my GE Pink and coral 1955 for cleaning my home.Has very strong suction and love the dusting tool to do my dusting,and the flip rug/floor tool cleans my carpets and floors very well. Michael | ||
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Post# 331910 , Reply# 24 8/17/2015 at 16:59 (3,168 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA) |
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I like using a canister simply because my house is small and changing attachments on my Kirby can be challenging for space issues.
I would put my Ultimate G up against any of my canisters as far as tool suction and cleaing performance. I use my Super J or Lux Special most of the time when using a canister. My daily cleaning team would be my Oreck Platinum XL and the Buster B canister. I added the wheel kit and love it for the size of our home. | ||
| Post# 331912 , Reply# 25 8/17/2015 at 17:06 (3,168 days old) by bikerray (Middle Earth) | ||
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| Post# 331915 , Reply# 26 8/17/2015 at 17:29 (3,168 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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My team of choice right now each weigh under 20lbs: my white Miele S8 FreshAir canister with spotlight handle, and my Hoover Platinum Bagged upright. I am finding the team to be excellent performers! Quiet, powerful and really easy to use. And they both take up no more room than a power nozzle canister in my closet....
I really dislike deep cleaning carpet with a power nozzle canister: I like to work from far end backwards to doorway and with a canister this is very difficult to do as you are constantly pushing the unit backwards behind you with your foot. Canisters are meant to be pulled behind you....so not the best set up for leaving behind a nicely groomed plush carpet with no footprints...:-) | ||
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Post# 331919 , Reply# 27 8/17/2015 at 17:58 (3,168 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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For pinkge...
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| Post# 331923 , Reply# 28 8/17/2015 at 20:32 (3,167 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Post# 331925 , Reply# 29 8/17/2015 at 20:42 (3,167 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles) |
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| Post# 331936 , Reply# 30 8/18/2015 at 00:01 (3,167 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
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| Post# 331965 , Reply# 32 8/18/2015 at 10:52 (3,167 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
I live in an apartment... that is quite spacious and carpeted throughout except bathroom and kitchen.
I convert my Kirby Sentria to canister mode and do all of my above floor cleaning first and then use the bare floor nozzle for kitchen and bathroom, then I convert it back to an upright which takes less than a minute, and vacuum all of the carpet. I find that the suction through the hose is more than adequate for my above floor cleaning. | ||
| Post# 331968 , Reply# 33 8/18/2015 at 12:06 (3,167 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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Easy and quick for me to convert the Kirby to canister mode, however I don't find it very pleasant to use this way or handy.Hose short and down low, bag, even folded still clumsy, suction, well air flow is good anyway and on hi the noise is not very relaxing. It works, just not how I want to use a Kirby
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Post# 331975 , Reply# 34 8/18/2015 at 14:10 (3,167 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Today's "Vacuum of the Day" | ||
| Post# 331979 , Reply# 35 8/18/2015 at 15:36 (3,167 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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CONSTELLATION I love the ones that are "angled", like this one. | ||
| Post# 332014 , Reply# 36 8/19/2015 at 04:38 (3,166 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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I am trying to survive with these. Now I am trying to decide which canister is for the powerhead. | ||
| Post# 332025 , Reply# 38 8/19/2015 at 08:43 (3,166 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 332210 , Reply# 39 8/21/2015 at 20:45 (3,163 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
I guess because I grew up around them, that I've always liked canisters best. I like how they can go from cleaning carpets and floors to furniture, walls, ceilings, etc. I have never found an upright that was especially good for above floor cleaning. It always seems the suction is either weak, or the hose fights and pulls the machine over on me. And canisters are easier to pull around than trying to move the upright while using the hose, and constantly worrying that it is going to tip over and break something.
Not that I don't like uprights, I really like my Eureka 1934A for doing the carpets. In fact, I probably like it better than even a power nozzle canister for doing just that. But if I'm going to do a full vacuuming, I often use a power nozzle canister. | ||
| Post# 332221 , Reply# 40 8/22/2015 at 00:51 (3,163 days old) by Sries (Tacoma WA) | ||
I love canisters but...
I have a house with lots and lots of doors and door ways. It doesn't have a very open floor plan. So I'm always afraid I'm going to pull my canister around a corner and scratch the paint all up! I get very parinoid while cleaning my house sometimes. And it doesn't help that 80% of my house is hard wood floors. :) So sometimes I just use a broom. And I use an upright for the carpets.
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| Post# 332261 , Reply# 41 8/22/2015 at 17:14 (3,163 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Versatility & Power
That's what it boils down to for me. Yes, I have uprights & use & like them too. But for a apartment dweller like myself, especially when you have small closets, a PN canister is better than a upright. Especially if the apartment has cramped rooms with lots of furniture in them....much easier to get in between a coffee table & couch in a small room with a canister, as well as underneath furniture such as beds.
Also, the fact that a canister can do hard floors easier & much better is a HUGE advantage. Uprights, even if you use a floor brush with the upright's hose & wand, they are more awkward to clean hard floors with, & their motors don't produce as much suction as a canister either. And here in Ontario, it seems the trend with apartments is when they get renovated, hard floors of some kind or other gets put in instead of carpet, so there is a VERY REAL chance if I move tomorrow I may not be able to make use of a upright. Speaking of suction power, that's another advantage a PN canister offers over a upright....the canister motors are larger & produce much more airflow & suction. Let's see a upright try & match the 100" Waterlift that a Miele canister produces, or the 116" Waterlift the new Aerus Guardian Platinum canister produces. Most clean air uprights today produce around 80" to 85" Waterlift. I do have a phobia about dirt embedded in carpets....if I move tomorrow into a fully carpeted apartment, I am more confident that a PN canister will remove a previous tenant's dirt more thoroughly before using a carpet extractor than a clean air upright. All those reasons for me is why a canister rules the roost in my daily cleaning routine. Rob | ||
| Post# 332317 , Reply# 46 8/23/2015 at 14:57 (3,162 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Hi again. But that's what I was saying too - does the power you describe have any statistics to prove it cleaned better? | ||
| Post# 332326 , Reply# 48 8/23/2015 at 17:17 (3,162 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
In my most recent Which magazine, Electrolux have a new washing machine on the market that claims the old energy efficiency labels have to be rewritten... I didn't read it carefully but only noticed the title in the magazine.
Speaking as one who has bought quite a lot of new EU law passed "eco" vacs though, I do notice a difference between some brands and previously high models versus new eco versions. The higher powered ones are a bit more powerful, even in the lower bands. The one aspect that I love about cylinder vacs though is the simple fact that they come with an auto cord rewind. Not many uprights in the UK have auto cord rewinds. | ||
| Post# 332364 , Reply# 51 8/24/2015 at 04:48 (3,161 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I agree with Benny - just because a clean has more suction does not automatically mean it will clean better. Sometimes, less is more and stronger suction can often by too strong and make the cleaner difficult to use. | ||
| Post# 332366 , Reply# 52 8/24/2015 at 06:20 (3,161 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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I just thought of another reason I prefer uprights to power nozzle canisters for cleaning carpet: the size of the bag. Most classic fan-first uprights have bags larger than canisters, and these large bags can handle the large amounts of fluff and embedded dirt brought up by a revolving brush. My Hoover Platinum Lightweight bagged vac has a HUGE bag - only need to change it 3 or 4 times per year. Suction only canisters don't need such large bags for the surface litter they are collecting. The smaller bags allow for smaller canister units that are easier to carry up onto stairs and counters and into car interiors.
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| Post# 332377 , Reply# 53 8/24/2015 at 10:23 (3,161 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Brian
Good point about the size of the dust bags on fan-first uprights. However, there's a disadvantage to that - poor suction & airflow. Go ahead & open up your Hoover & see the fan on it, the fans on these 8 lb cleaners are pathetically small, they really don't produce much airflow to properly clean with. The one exception being the Tacony 8 lb uprights, those do have a proper fan in them. These 8 lb uprights rely primarily on the cleaner's brushroll to do the majority of the work.
The other major disadvantage with fan-first cleaners, the ones where the fan is mounted to one side, motor pulley on the other side & dirt tube on the side, is even when using HEPA Cloth bags the suction & airflow drop off really quick with hardly any dirt in the bag. Try using a Hoover Elite, (fan first) Dirt Devil Featherlite or Oreck XL with a HEPA bag in it, you'll be lucky if you can get the bag 1/3rd full before it's lost 70% of it's power. At that point, the brushroll is just grinding the dirt back into the carpet. The only fan-first uprights I have found you can pack the bag right full is the Kirby & Royal Metal uprights, it seems that fan-first uprights that have the fan positioned in the centre & the dirt tube right in the middle of the nozzle seem to maintain their power better. I would suspect the same could be said of the Eureka F&G uprights & Hoover Convertible, but haven't used either extensively to know for sure. The Eureka F&G's & Hoover Convertible's flaw, however, are those round belts that seem to last a relatively short time & need constant care & replacement. Brian, do this little test with your Hoover Platinum - With a new bag, turn the vacuum on high speed, put the vacuum on it's back, & put your hand close to the dirt tube on the powerhead, you can feel the airflow rushing into the dirt tube. Then when your bag is 1/3rd to 1/2 full, do that same test, you'll notice the airflow has dropped off considerably. Then, when the bag is full & ready to be changed, go ahead & borrow your Mom's Kenmore canister....with a clean bag in the Kenmore, & after vacuuming with the Hoover with a full bag, run the Kenmore over the same areas. I think you'll be disgusted with what your Hoover has left behind & I wouldn't be surprised if the bag was at least 1/4 full of dirt & carpet fibers your Hoover wasn't picking up. Rob | ||
| Post# 332389 , Reply# 55 8/24/2015 at 12:28 (3,161 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine) | ||
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One thing I prefer about Fan First uprights like Royal and Kirby is that they have wider floor nozzles than most canister power heads and with large areas of open wall to wall carpet, this translates to fewer passes to clean the same area of carpet. Also I find that my back hurts more when I use a canister with power nozzle as I seem to be more bent over and applying some pressure to get the power nozzle to deep clean better. Maybe it's because I'm used to the Tech Drive on my Sentria. I feel like my carpet is cleaner when I use my Kirby Sentria.
The canister I used was a fairly new 1200 watt Miele that I borrowed from my Brother. I think it was a Classic C1. | ||
| Post# 332437 , Reply# 56 8/24/2015 at 21:34 (3,160 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Thanks for that Rob.
I really am not so sure I need such massive amounts of suction or airflow in an upright: our old Eureka Vanguard Cordaway Box-Top Rugulator 2083 had very little airflow when the hose was attached to the pan converter for above-the-floor cleaning. But it was enough to clean carpets with excellence as most of the work was done by the brush-roll. Later on we had the bottom of the line Eureka Bravo (Elite Clone) which also had wimpy suction but boy could that thing clean carpets !!!! It was lightweight like an Oreck and only had a 7amp motor. But in all cases the top-fill bag was huge and kept cleaning well for many weeks as the top-fill bags filled. The ability to remove dirt from carpets does not solely depend on suction or airflow - it depends just as much on the design of the brush roll, and the whole design of the cleaning end of the vacuum (wheel adjustment, brush roll cavity, dirt path from carpet to bag). Bag-first power nozzle canisters require the air to travel a long way from carpet to bag, and they are far more sensitive to the volume of dirt collected in the bag to maintain cleaning ability....methinks :-) | ||
| Post# 332459 , Reply# 57 8/25/2015 at 06:27 (3,160 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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The above comment! Is VERY true, without a good nozzle or brushroll, you just cant clean a rug, A Dyson has a ton of power...but a very poor..IMHO brushroll, A 3 amp 1950s Royal will pull dirt behind one all day, as will a Eureka 260 or a 61-2 or 3 Hoover. | ||
| Post# 332526 , Reply# 58 8/25/2015 at 17:15 (3,160 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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VR I have copies June, July, August and September. I can't seem to find it being listed in the magazine. But then its late evening and I'm rather tired. Suffice to say it would have been mentioned because I certainly didn't dream it. You can find out more by visiting Electrolux's link regarding their new washer with claims that the present energy label will have to be "rewritten."
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Post# 332729 , Reply# 60 8/29/2015 at 06:23 (3,156 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Are we referring to a REAL 5Hp "shop vacuum"?The ones touting this are LOCKED ROTOR "HP"That the shop vac makers love to advertise-not useful motor power!The power drawn in a lab just before it burns out. | ||
| Post# 332730 , Reply# 61 8/29/2015 at 06:31 (3,156 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Another issue regarding "eco" vacs
One other little issue that seems to be saddling these eco vacuums in my opinion isn't just the lower motors that brands now have to fit by law, but heavier suction only floor heads. I can't abide the double pedal AirTeq pedal on my S8 Ecoline. Far too bulky and far too heavy to push around. I find using any one of Miele's standard suction only combi heads to be just as effective, but Miele are not alone here.
Brands are making adjustments to suction combi floor tools to meet the EU regulations, but without much thought to the owner. The separate farcical floor heads supplied with my Hoover stick vac reinforces that evidence. Difficult to push and not entirely practical when a combi suction floor tool would have been better. I note that Hoover have already started to replace certain Enigma cylinder vacs with just a single combi floor tool to the nonsense of the carpet nozzle and hard floor rubber wheel nozzle floor heads that were originally supplied. Meanwhile Miele have started to put out new models with 800 watts with their standard suction floor head as opposed to reliance on the double pedal heavy floor tool instead.
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| Post# 332777 , Reply# 62 8/29/2015 at 22:34 (3,155 days old) by chad (texas) | ||
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As far as my shop vac goes.....I don't know if the motor will power a go cart or not. I just know it has a 2'id hose, and would probably suck start a harley. I'm sure the rating probably is at the point of failure. Any idears who makes Ridgids vacuums for them? | ||
| Post# 333114 , Reply# 63 9/2/2015 at 22:51 (3,151 days old) by calipilot227 () | ||
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A canister works better for me, simply because a compact power nozzle can get to places (in my small, cluttered apartment) that a bulky upright cannot. | ||
| Post# 333128 , Reply# 64 9/3/2015 at 05:12 (3,151 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 333228 , Reply# 65 9/4/2015 at 15:48 (3,150 days old) by CharlesKirby66 (Manteca, CA) | ||
Why canisters?
Simple... canisters for everything that is not wall-to-wall carpets, mattresses, and heavy rugs. Wall-to-wall carpets and heavy rugs benefit from having the suction source as close to the carpet and nozzle as possible, thus making an upright a better choice.
Anything that's not porous is easier to clean with a canister. Kirby's Zippbrush attachment gives you the triple-cushioned vibration in canister mode, which is a blessing for sofas, car carpets, comforters, even cleaning lint off of clothes! I'm glad that I don't have to choose between upright and canister with my Kirbys. I have both units (and more!) in one! | ||
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Post# 333278 , Reply# 66 9/5/2015 at 00:38 (3,149 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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I seldom use my Kirbys as "canister" use the canisters in my collection instead.Put the Zipbrush on my NuTone central unit-that brush almost takes off!!! | ||
| Post# 333333 , Reply# 67 9/5/2015 at 19:02 (3,149 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Also, canisters in my experience are great for cleaning the car out with. I've tried my Sebo uprights etc or others with hoses that then need extra length extension hoses, but a canister can simply be slotted into the front passenger footwell and then stretched or lifted over to other seats when cleaning close up. So much versatility there, or if leaving it in the boot etc.
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Post# 333334 , Reply# 68 9/5/2015 at 19:22 (3,149 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL) |
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| Post# 333341 , Reply# 69 9/5/2015 at 23:12 (3,148 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 333712 , Reply# 72 9/11/2015 at 10:56 (3,143 days old) by Mike81 () | ||
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Wessel-Werk RD285 hard floor nozzle you had in the link looks excellent! I would love to try one. My choice for hard floors is Twinner. Its design is from 90's and it's still in sale. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Mike81's LINK
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| Post# 334157 , Reply# 75 9/17/2015 at 19:09 (3,137 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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As far as I know, Menalux are a trader company who sell a lot of Electrolux based tools. It might be different elsewhere. I like the Twinner but I'm less of a fan of the Wessel Werk RD285. Hoover sent me one to try when I moaned about the awful hard floor tool I got with my Hoover stick vac. It is marginally better but it is no way a good combination tool as the marketing suggests. I sent it back.
It is just about fit for hard floors. Much prefer the older Parquet brush nozzle without advancing waves set into the design. Interestingly though both SEBO's Deluxe Parquet floor tool and their Kombi Deluxe tools have almost four way air flow channels, so they suck the dust in from a bit more than just the front. I have also used my Kombi floor tool many a time without adjusting from carpet to hard floor and it rolls with no damage on hard floors. | ||
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Post# 334403 , Reply# 76 9/21/2015 at 15:37 (3,133 days old) by n0oxy (Saint Louis Missouri, United States) |
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wessel werk nozzle on carpet I have not tried my wessel werk rd 285 on carpets, since I only have hard floors and it works great for that. Actually, even if I had carpets, I would not use that nozzle, for carpets, I would only use a power nozzle with a spinning brush, for carpets, nothing else would do nearly as well probably. | ||
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Post# 335273 , Reply# 78 10/5/2015 at 20:02 (3,119 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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I love canister vacs!!
I have 1 upright and about 8 canisters to my personal collection. But I have 3 other uprights that I'll be selling and 2 other canister vacs that I'll be selling. All of my canister vacuums are electric power nozzle equipped. I don't do straight suction only machines because my favorite part of a vacuum cleaner is the brush roll!!
I usually vacuum a room moving backwards towards the entrance. Therefore, I've just gotten very accustomed to wheeling the suction unit back with my foot while concentrating on deep cleaning with power nozzle. With a good designed cleaning head and system I've never had a problem with cleaning power. I used to live in a home that 2 Kirby G4's in addition to some others. I took care of her vacuums for her. The Kirby brush rolls were adjusted properly for wear according to numbers on end caps, belts were in good shape, bags were genuine Kirby and in good shape and machine was clean. I've watched Kirby videos about going one position deeper after hearing brush roll touch carpet as well. But several times after doing a room with her Kirby, I went back over it later with one of my Hoover power team canisters. The room didn't look groomed enough by the Kirby and I felt the Hoover left it cleaner! I also didn't appreciate the Kirby self propel sending my arm back so rapidly into filing cabinets and doors many a time. I love carpet lines and grooming patterns although the rake like pattern from a baseplate of a Shark doesn't excite me as much! I'd rather see the agitator pattern than the base plate rake. A primary reason why I prefer a power nozzle canister vacuum to an upright is that when maneuvering around furniture and behind things the only thing I have to push around is the power head that is at maximum about 3.5" high and then the wand is less than 1.75" with the pigtail cord and connectors. I don't like the bulk being pushed around with a heavy upright. I find the bulky upright always getting caught on various things or rubbing along furniture and with a soft bag machine that rubbing can cause a dust cloud emission. Just look at the pictures below- all you have to maneuver into tight obstacles is that super thin wand and it can be used with handle at numerous angles to make fitting into really tight areas fairly possible! In addition to less bulk and easier maneuvering around obstacles a canister vac makes vacuuming under beds possible under the reclining sofas- cause I always open those out while vacuuming around sofa and many other areas. I can change from power nozzle to attachment mode in just a few seconds to grab something along a wall or cobweb up high, etc. Stairs are tremendously easier to do with a canister vac. Generally I use the upholstery nozzle on my steps but I've also just used the power nozzle on the stairs and then went back over the edges with crevice tool. Just many options on a canister that I prefer over an upright. Now I do still like uprights and can see why many like them but for me my preference is canister. For every one time my upright gets used I've probably used a canister with power nozzle about 20 other times!! Also big hefty Kirbys have a built in self propelled system in addition to self propelled Windtunnel and Eureka had one years back. Well every good power nozzle I've ever used the brush roll is the self propel system!! That's just my 2 cents! | ||
| Post# 335305 , Reply# 79 10/6/2015 at 09:19 (3,118 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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