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Thread Number: 29767
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
my review of the Riccar Prima |
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| Post# 331550 , Reply# 1 8/12/2015 at 13:40 (3,173 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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Nice review of the vacuum. I'm surprised that Tom didn't swear you to secrecy on the pricing at the outlet store. I don't think they like to reveal their outlet store prices. | ||
| Post# 331564 , Reply# 3 8/12/2015 at 16:14 (3,173 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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My understanding is that you can only get the outlet store prices if you have a documented visit to the vacuum museum. Given that the outlet store may be competing against independent stores with higher overhead costs, they prefer to keep the prices confidential. | ||
| Post# 331572 , Reply# 4 8/12/2015 at 17:47 (3,173 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 331587 , Reply# 5 8/12/2015 at 21:37 (3,173 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
QUALITY!
Raymond, that's the advantage the Prima & Wonder offer over the Kenmore canisters. You would also be well advised to look at the Miele C1 lineup.
Sears Canada does offer a 5 year warranty on the entire canister vacuum. Problem is, you're gonna need that warranty! The motors that Panasonic produces for these vacuums aren't very good quality....on average household use, you can expect 5 to 6 years max out of one of those motors. The hose material can tear over time & cause leaks if it is abused, or constantly left on the wand when storing the vacuum. The older design models which use 1 1/4" attachments, the PN receptacle in the hose can shift & move up into the hose handle body over time, which if left unrepaired, can cause electrical arcing between the receptacle & plug on the wand cord. The lower wand receptacle on the older design models can start to wiggle around & cause arcing between the receptacle & plug. This is due to the hole on the PN neck for the buttonlocker wearing out, allowing for play in the connection. On the newer models, the hose PN receptacle & wand receptacle arcing issues are fixed, but at the expense of using non-standard size wands & weird, odd, poorly designed attachments. Another issue is how the bag holder is designed....the bag collar can move up slightly & allow dirt to escape entering the bag, causing messes inside the vacuum. Unlike other vacuums such as Miele & Riccar, there is no tube on the bag door that enters the bag collar's hole....there is only a cut-out on the bag door that makes contact with a foam seal on the bag holder. If a tube was added on the bag door, this design flaw would be fixed. And, unless you buy the TOL silver & blue Elite models, the HEPA filter is NOT a sealed system, meaning it's a joke & dust can escape around it. The Kenmore's rely on the HEPA bag & HEPA filter combined to achieve their HEPA rating & approvals. Raymond, my advice to you would be to avoid the Kenmore vacuums & go with either the Wonder or Prima, or buy a Miele. The only way I would buy a Kenmore is if it was 1/2 price, THEN it might be tempting. Also note, Panasonic is best avoided too....they suffer from the same issues as their Kenmore cousins, they are merely retired Kenmore designs sold in vac shops. Bottom line, for the price they ask for Kenmore & Panasonic, you're better off paying slightly more & getting something that's signifigantly better quality. Rob | ||
| Post# 331705 , Reply# 7 8/14/2015 at 12:16 (3,171 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 331747 , Reply# 9 8/15/2015 at 09:20 (3,170 days old) by moderneezer (Gatineau, Quebec, Canada) | ||
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Ok, let's compare the Riccar Prima with a cheap TTI canister (Eureka, Bissell or Dirt Devil) that can be bought at Walmart. What do the two have in common? They're made in China. What does the TTI canister have in contrast to the Prima? The former is disposable crap while the latter is of top quality with the features that make it a great product. That's where I was asking weather or not a TTI canister would be an antithesis to the Prima.
And N0oxy, I was comparing the Prima's with the Kenmore models from the 90's to now. I should have specified this. Also, thank you, Kirbylux77, for your advice. | ||
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