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Thread Number: 29570
/ Tag: 80s/90s Vacuum Cleaners
Replacing Electrolux PN-5 Belt |
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| Post# 329905 , Reply# 1 7/22/2015 at 23:39 (3,194 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Post# 329921 , Reply# 2 7/23/2015 at 08:47 (3,193 days old) by vacuumlad1650  (Wauponsee, IL) |
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| Post# 329948 , Reply# 3 7/23/2015 at 14:55 (3,193 days old) by DJub85 (Virginia) | ||
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I did press the power button on the Epic PN. I suppose the button could be jammed or messed up in some way, but I did play with it several times. Not sure what the problem is.
Any other thoughts on the PN-5? Maybe I just need to take it to Aerus. | ||
| Post# 329951 , Reply# 4 7/23/2015 at 15:09 (3,193 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Dave
Just out of curiosity, is this Epic 6500 a blue & white one? If so, I think it is the circuit breaker/reset switch that may be faulty. Those blue & white 6500's used a circuit breaker made by Mel Rain / Littelfuse....if you look on a Kenmore canister PN from the 80's or 90's, it is identical to the circuit breaker those Kenmore PN's used. Now I have seen that on the gray Epic 6500's, they changed circuit breakers, I don't know for sure that when they changed colors that's when they changed circuit breakers or if it was done towards the end of the blue/gray 6500's. But I would try changing the circuit breaker first, to me a Electrolux PN motor from the early to mid 90's shouldn't be failing this early.
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| Post# 329980 , Reply# 6 7/23/2015 at 23:04 (3,193 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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I disassembled my PN-5 following the directions from the link in the post above and would offer a few observations:
The top cover of my PN-5 is different from the one in the illustration. On mine, the opening for the power cord is completely surrounded by the upper cover whereas the one in the illustration is open at the bottom. On mine, the power cord must be removed from the Power Nozzle in order to take off the cover. Fortunately, it just pulls out. The red reset switch on mine is not attached to the upper cover; it is part of the same block of plastic that holds the contact pins that fit into the holes on the power cord. This is actually a better design in that there's less chance of breaking wires. There are five screws. Two are just behind the brush roll and three are roughly in line with the rear wheels. All of the screws except the one at the left rear are deeply recessed. You can't see the heads without a strong flashlight. When separating the upper cover from the base, lift from the rear by sticking your finger in between a rear wheel and the top cover. It'll pop right off. When putting the two halves together again, make sure the little ridge on front edge of the top cover seats in the corresponding groove on the inner front edge of the base. Squeeze the sides together, moving toward the back of the unit to snap the two halves of the shell together. The PN-5's motor is not particularly well isolated from the brush roll and the dirt flow so it was FILTHY inside when I opened it up. I blew the interior out with canned air before reassembling it even though it will just get dirty all over again. All in all, I much prefer the design of my PN-2, in which the motor is completely sealed off from the brush roll and dirt flow by an inner cover. | ||
| Post# 329981 , Reply# 7 7/23/2015 at 23:41 (3,193 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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Different PN-5
Looking back at that tutorial, I am convinced the nozzle pictured is NOT a PN-5 at all but a more recent iteration of the Omniflow nozzle. There are several significant differences between it and mine:
The pigtail power cord on the one pictured is not removable, thus the open bottom on the power cord opening of the upper cover The reset button is attached to the upper cover, whereas mine is part of the block the pigtail cord plugs into. The Power Nozzle pictured has an on/off switch, which my PN-5 does not. I believe the switch was introduced on the PN-6. The Electrolux logo appears to be molded into the plastic on the "outrigger" portion of the nozzle, where the words "Automatic Omniflow" appear on mine. The Electrolux logo on mine is on a metal plate over the motor housing. My PN-5 has two metal guards over the brush roll; the one pictured does not. The one pictured appears to have a removable plate on the bottom between the brushroll and the neck. Presumably, this would allow easy access to remove obstructions. My PN-5 does not have this. The plastic top cover is a bright white; mine is grayish tan. I think they call it "Sand". Despite the design differences stated above, most of the information contained in the text of the tutorial is indeed applicable to the PN-5 and presumably most of the rest of its Omniflow descendants. But it just begs the question, which Power Nozzle model is actually pictured in this supposedly PN-5 specific tutorial? | ||
| Post# 330038 , Reply# 9 7/24/2015 at 17:39 (3,192 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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After tearing down, cleaning, and reassembling my PN-5 last night, I decided to hook it up to my 1205, which I haven't used in a while, and give it a run on the living room carpet and Persian rug just to see if it worked any better. I have to say there is a noticeable improvement but my PN-1 and PN-2 still run circles around it. The Omniflow form factor just doesn't work well in my house. The earlier Power Nozzles are just easier to maneuver in tight quarters with their more compact designs.
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