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Post# 32619   2/19/2008 at 12:27 (5,907 days old) by ericaustin (Dallas, TX)        

I just received my Hoover Constellation from EBAY! Perfect condition in the box. I was really surprised at the amount of power this one packs!! It's great I love it! The turbo nozzle does get bogged down though on my one shag rug.. Ah well..

Post# 32652 , Reply# 1   2/19/2008 at 17:36 (5,907 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        

Another great machine, would like one of the new constellations my self.
Norm


Post# 32709 , Reply# 2   2/19/2008 at 21:54 (5,907 days old) by elux89 ()        

I tried one a little over a year ago and returned it! I was rather impressed with the suction/airflow, and thought it was a rather neat looking piece of nostalgia. But, a few shortcomings: plastic bottom plate instead of being metal, anything within a three to five foot radius on the floor literally gets blown away, and there is a hole in the cannister lid. More on the hole. If you look under the handle, opposite the end where the hose attaches, there's a hole close to the size of your little finger. I called Hoover, they agreed that's the way it is, but could not offer an explanation why. Does anyone know why?? (the only reasons I could think: 1. if the hose gets clogged or bag overfilled, there still will be enough airflow to keep it afloat??)If you plug the hole, the suction is enough to pull nails out of the wall.

Vernon


Post# 32713 , Reply# 3   2/19/2008 at 22:01 (5,907 days old) by elux89 ()        

Forgot to add in my previous post, when I contacted Hoover regarding the hole in the lid, I also questioned them on suction (lift), airflow, and airwatts. They could not provide these specs either.

Vernon


Post# 32714 , Reply# 4   2/19/2008 at 22:22 (5,907 days old) by lux1521 ()        

I would guess, judging that the motor is a incredible (perhaps even rediculus) 12 amps, you would need some kind of way to keep it from overheating. 12 amps is a lot for a single motor with no solid load (belts) and I can imagine it spins quite fast, especialy when airflow is cut off and a near no load condition exists.

If I were the engineer who designed it, I would have had a 10 amp suction motor with a 2 amp brushroll motor instead of a turbo nozzle. Mounting a float on/off valve in the base would also be interesting. That way you could stop it from floating and from blowing dust around.


Post# 32762 , Reply# 5   2/20/2008 at 12:27 (5,906 days old) by ericaustin (Dallas, TX)        

GREAT IDEAS! I wish it would have been better engineered. Although I do love it, a power nozzle would have been optimal. Maybe a see through globe design with a bagless option would be cool.. Kinda like they did with the SAVVY you can use bags or use the bagless option.. We should all get together and engineer a super machine.. would knock Dyson out of the water!

Post# 32779 , Reply# 6   2/20/2008 at 16:27 (5,906 days old) by volvoguy87 ()        
Vacuum efficiency.

I would love to make the wonderful Connie more efficient. Anyone can use a 12 amp motor and make a screamer, but power is really a balance between motor, fan, and fan chamber. I have read some comparisons between the Dyson and recent-model Kirby vacuum cleaners and although the Dyson has a more powerful motor, the Kirby was the more powerful vacuum.

First, add a power-nozzle.
Second, try to get a more efficient fan and fan chamber.
Third, add a motor-cooling fan and motor cooling vents independent of the air-flow for cleaning. That way the motor's cooling would be more consistent regardless of load.
Fourth, a redesign the bottom of the canister so that instead of having the plastic base, there would be a tough, inflatable nylon ring around the perimeter. Upon startup, the vacuum would exhaust into the ring (causing the vacuum to rise 2 inches or so). The ring would exhaust to the space under the canister. The exhausted air would then go underneath the inflated ring to the room. The advantage would be a better seal between the base and the floor to compensate for differing floor height (worn or sculpted carpet vs. thick-pile carpet).

I had a housemate with an 843 Connie in a 100 year old house. The suction was great, but the wooden floor boards had worn and settled unevenly. When the Connie came to a spot with a dip in the floor, the cushion of air would escape through the dip and the canister would drop to the floor and have to be lifted or dragged.

I guess I'm trying to turn the Connie into a "Hoovercraft,"
Dave


Post# 32981 , Reply# 7   2/22/2008 at 07:29 (5,904 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

I have two Connies and I love them on my ceramic tile floors.
They do a great job.


Ross


Post# 33036 , Reply# 8   2/22/2008 at 22:27 (5,904 days old) by hoover28 (Oneida N.Y.)        
I have the white one

I like it and so does my mom. I have sold meny of them in my vac shop. the customers seem to love them. wish it had a beter power nozzle.

Chris


Post# 33406 , Reply# 9   2/27/2008 at 10:38 (5,899 days old) by electrikbroomgu (Rome, NY)        
New Connie

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I remember being thrilled when a vac shop told us that Hoover was bringing back the Connie. The bottom plastic portion doesn't really bother me as long as it doesn't crack but I agree the powerhead isn't the greatest and I wonder how the hose will hold up after time. At least you can cut it down and re-insert it back in the handle. I really wished they refrained from making it in China and not using a tradtional Hoover cord and plug though.


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