Thread Number: 29142
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Miele S7210 vs Dyson DC41/65/big ball |
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Post# 325565 , Reply# 1   5/24/2015 at 16:37 (3,257 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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PS 300W on the low setting?! OMG that must be quieter than a Henry on low mode... right? What about on 1800W?Is it still quieter than a Dyson DC14? |
Post# 325566 , Reply# 2   5/24/2015 at 16:55 (3,257 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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I have had an S7 allervac. It was white. It was a lovely vacuum in many ways. It beautiful looking vacuum and the tool storage and hose set up is well designed. However, I found the build quality to not be as good as miele claim, some cheap plastic used especially near the floor head. It is a pig to do maintenance on, to change a brushroll is horrible.
Compared to the dyson, the miele eats it for breakfast, honestly. If you were choosing between the two, go for the S7 What happened to you getting a SEBO chap? I reckon a Felix would suit you well. |
Post# 325567 , Reply# 3   5/24/2015 at 17:00 (3,257 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Nice! Cheers Oli :D As for the Felix, I would still like one but I hardly see any, especially a good cheap one but this Miele S7 came up cheap so figured why not :D |
Post# 325568 , Reply# 4   5/24/2015 at 17:00 (3,257 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Well for the price i'd go for it. The Miele Uprights are heavy to carry so taking up and down stairs is kind of a pain. But for the mixed flooring you have i think it would be a good fit, the variable power will make cleaning your rugs easier. As for the hard floors, the owner of my favorite shop told me he's never seen an upright clean bare floors like the S7. I cannot compare it to any of the above dysons i've never used or owned them.
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Post# 325570 , Reply# 6   5/24/2015 at 17:09 (3,257 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 325571 , Reply# 7   5/24/2015 at 17:12 (3,257 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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the Miele upright will clean better than the DC40 DC41 and dc65 and all old dyson but I think the big ball and UK models will out cleaning it on all surfaces,when I had the Miele I really liked it but I don't think it was for me,I see sebos pop up a bit I think they would be worth waiting for or save up for a Dyson.
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Post# 325573 , Reply# 8   5/24/2015 at 17:13 (3,257 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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So the big ball cinetic will clean better than the Miele S7? I think I will go for that as my next brand new vacuum instead of the lovely shiny blue DC41 |
Post# 325574 , Reply# 9   5/24/2015 at 17:18 (3,257 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 325575 , Reply# 10   5/24/2015 at 17:19 (3,257 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 325578 , Reply# 11   5/24/2015 at 17:41 (3,257 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Nice! Thanks |
Post# 325623 , Reply# 12   5/24/2015 at 19:38 (3,257 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Tayyab....if it means anything, the American Consumer Reports has consistently rated all Miele S7 uprights as better carpet cleaners than any Dyson on the North American market. It's quieter too. Of course, changing the large cloth bag on the Miele is a million times more hygienic than emptying a bagless vacuum tank.
Too bad the UK S7's don't have the cool halogen headlights we get here in North America! Good luck with your new acquisition, whatever you decide... |
Post# 325653 , Reply# 14   5/25/2015 at 06:39 (3,256 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 325674 , Reply# 15   5/25/2015 at 11:11 (3,256 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Tayyab, The Meile S7 series is know for poor build quality and inferior plastics which break a lot. It is also known to be a nightmare to work on. It is very difficult even to replace the brushroll. So before you spend your money on the S7 watch this video:
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Post# 325676 , Reply# 16   5/25/2015 at 11:51 (3,256 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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ah, there we go. I was waiting for somebody to bring up Kirby. Is Tayyab even asking about Kirbys here? No. It's completely irrelevant.
The Miele is damn heavy though and even with the swivel neck, it's difficult to maneuver as it has a very large cleaner head. The Dyson will be much quicker and lighter to use.
For deep carpet cleaning, the Miele wins hands down.
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Post# 325689 , Reply# 17   5/25/2015 at 13:25 (3,256 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 325690 , Reply# 18   5/25/2015 at 13:30 (3,256 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 325697 , Reply# 19   5/25/2015 at 13:54 (3,256 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Whether the Kirby outcleans the S7 or not, that's not really what this discussion is for. If Tayyab had a Kirby available to him, I'm sure he would've asked the question - but here, he is specifically asking about the Miele compared with the Dyson and instead of posting about the pro's and con's of those machines, this conversation has once again been steered towards Kirby. Even when Kirby aren't even being debated, people feel the need to bring them up in conversation. |
Post# 325702 , Reply# 20   5/25/2015 at 14:26 (3,256 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 325703 , Reply# 21   5/25/2015 at 14:32 (3,256 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 325765 , Reply# 23   5/26/2015 at 02:10 (3,255 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 325766 , Reply# 24   5/26/2015 at 03:25 (3,255 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I guess u were a bit, not really a comparison but kinda is, sorry came home late after a wedding in Lancashire |
Post# 325773 , Reply# 25   5/26/2015 at 04:58 (3,255 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 325781 , Reply# 27   5/26/2015 at 10:16 (3,255 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Guys how quiet is this Miele S7 on the lowest setting? What's it like compared to a Henry on high and low power? cheers |
Post# 325782 , Reply# 28   5/26/2015 at 10:37 (3,255 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 325786 , Reply# 29   5/26/2015 at 11:13 (3,255 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 325787 , Reply# 30   5/26/2015 at 11:20 (3,255 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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In an attempt to keep this conversation from being yet another [expletive] Kirby thread, lets discuss the pro's and con's of the S7 vs. the Dyson. These are just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will have their own input.
- bagless, so few running costs - additional tools and replacements are cheaper to buy
Dyson con's:
- can be messy to maintain with filters and bins - average carpet performance compared with some other top end uprights - difficult to get under low furniture
Miele pro's:
- bags tend to be more hygenic - fantastic carpet performance - variable power for multi surface and above floor cleaning - more solid build quality
Miele con's:
- difficult to repair - can be expensive on parts - bags and filters will have to be replaced over time, so there is more running cost
Both cleaners have swivel action, full stair stretch hoses, strong hose suction and good tools. |
Post# 325788 , Reply# 31   5/26/2015 at 11:41 (3,255 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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It's fine Chris :) Looking at that I can see there are things I like about both the Dyson and the Miele. I think I will try and see if I can get a really low price on the Miele as I haven't used one before |
Post# 325804 , Reply# 32   5/26/2015 at 15:05 (3,255 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 325808 , Reply# 33   5/26/2015 at 16:20 (3,255 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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How quiet are they on the lowest setting? Are they like that quiet enough to talk quietly?:D |
Post# 325809 , Reply# 34   5/26/2015 at 16:37 (3,255 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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On the lowest setting you should be able to talk over it, if you have the brushroll off, the brushroll is probably the loudest thing on it. According to this video from Vacuum Wizard it's range is 65-75db
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Blackheart's LINK |
Post# 325831 , Reply# 35   5/26/2015 at 20:52 (3,255 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 325844 , Reply# 37   5/27/2015 at 04:24 (3,254 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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"I really DON'T like hoses and attachments on the machine-makes it cumbersome,awkward,heavier" Except for Dyson uprights, the hoses are tucked away neatly at the back as it doesn't even have a hose! :) |
Post# 325889 , Reply# 38   5/27/2015 at 22:03 (3,254 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I can't really see why you would come to such an opinion, Tayyab. Most hoses and tools are lighter than a kilogram when put altogether. Its no as if they are saddling the upright with heavier components. The Miele S7, granted has more durable fittings but you'll soon realise the worth that it has if you get the vacuum.
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Post# 325925 , Reply# 39   5/28/2015 at 12:54 (3,253 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 325948 , Reply# 40   5/28/2015 at 17:56 (3,253 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 325949 , Reply# 41   5/28/2015 at 17:58 (3,253 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Thank you Stan and Narayan it's fine, lol :) |
Post# 326000 , Reply# 43   5/29/2015 at 04:02 (3,252 days old) by Turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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I hardly think its fair to use a blanket statement about on board tool vacs being bulky and awkward to use when that description also fits kirby, royals, bisons et al which dont have tools on but are not very pleasant to use for many people.
Also nor is it fair to say the hoses clog when they blatantly dont with normal sensible use. Plenty of streamlined upright vacs have been designed in europe and are a pleasure to use and this has been the case for over 35 years now. I think a few people on here need to grow up, first we had those touting Dyson as being the best and its funny how the tables turned when they started opening their minds and using other cleaners. Lets just give this kirby thing a break - they dont work for a good many people INCLUDING collectors who can see the flaws. Theres some pretty good vacs out there but none are perfect. |
Post# 326002 , Reply# 44   5/29/2015 at 05:38 (3,252 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 326342 , Reply# 46   6/3/2015 at 09:00 (3,247 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I can't be bothered with the "selector." If you are going to use a hose there should be no need to change a setting, but then I'm used to more modern European uprights NOW that don't have switches "to use a hose."
Vintage wise when I think of vacuums I had when I first started collecting, I think there were 2 uprights that had a selector to use tools/hose and that was on a Hoover Turbopower and much later the Electrolux Z500. The Hoover didn't stay long with me, not because of that function alone but rather because I preferred the clean air design of the TP2/3 series. Also I think that particularly Turbopower used to clog because of the poor arrangement of the side hose usage location. It had little to do with the hose. I was rather late on when I bought an Electrolux Z517. That was an eye opener; beautifully quiet and such a simple machine to use. The first of the clean air uprights that also had a selector at the back, but again, this was back in the day when uprights didn't have tools on board, or if they did exist they weren't exactly cheap to buy. I hardly used the hose when I eventually bought one for the Z517. Upright owners shouldn't require a selector in my experience; the hose should be a grab and go function. I think the unnecessary selector just causes problems. Last year when I bought a Zanussi AirSpeed upright, it too has an old fashioned 'floors to hose" selector and I found that whilst it was neccesary to use to allow suction airflow to occur, the side turn wheel could be adjusted for easier gliding rather than actual hose use; a factor that didn't seem to be mentioned in the user manual. |