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Post# 325281   5/20/2015 at 16:35 (3,256 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        

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Alright, thanks to my friend Joshua, I am now the owner of a brand new Sebo Felix Premium 1.

Straight out of the box it was pulling a 6.5/10 on the baird meter.

It's a very nice vacuum the variable speed is wonderful when you have "stupid carpet" like we do and leather furniture.


Post# 325283 , Reply# 1   5/20/2015 at 16:46 (3,256 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Yes chap ! The best all round vacuum you can buy in terms of just about everything. Lovely machines, I have a Felix vague with eh 700watt motor and the suction is no different to these models :)

Post# 325289 , Reply# 2   5/20/2015 at 17:30 (3,256 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        
The best all round vacuum you can buy in terms of just about

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I wouldn't say is the best all rounder you can buy it's a very good vacuum but not the best. mate your starting to sound like the Kirby collectors lolol

Post# 325299 , Reply# 3   5/20/2015 at 18:29 (3,256 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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I'm the Kirby guy but I would easily say the Sebo Felix is a much better all rounder than any Dyson due mainly to the adjustable height and motor speed.


Post# 325303 , Reply# 4   5/20/2015 at 18:41 (3,256 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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it's best not to say Brand A is better than brand B that's how arguments are caused.

Post# 325337 , Reply# 5   5/20/2015 at 22:53 (3,256 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND)        

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.... Out of 8 posts, I see two pertaining to the topic at hand, the original post and one reply....

Is it necessary to always hijack someone's thread for bullsh*t like this?

Devin, I'm glad you like it. I'm sorry I couldn't get it any cheaper than what it was. Let me know if you want me to find you anything else.


Post# 325357 , Reply# 6   5/21/2015 at 01:36 (3,255 days old) by Reflector ()        

On that 6.5 on the Baird Meter, was that with the synthetic bags and not the really old paper bags for the Felix?

Post# 325359 , Reply# 7   5/21/2015 at 02:27 (3,255 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Yes

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It has a synthetic bag in it.

Post# 325364 , Reply# 8   5/21/2015 at 03:38 (3,255 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Glad you're happy with your Felix. I agree, they're great all rounders, doing a good job for mostly all vacuuming and definitely one of the most versatile machines you can get. They're nice and light too.

Post# 325365 , Reply# 9   5/21/2015 at 05:09 (3,255 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Hi,

Good choice of vacuum cleaner. I would agree, it is one of the best all rounders and I really like them. I don't like the X series but love the Felix. The Felix is flexible, the handle adjustment up and down, variable motor speed, brush on/off system and the ability to vacuum flat when vacuuming under the bed. When I lived in a house, I used to put the top cylinder part in my car and vacuum it out easily and not leave it outside of the car - not that leaving the machine out of the car is an issue.

Happy vacuuming with your Felix and thanks for sharing.


Post# 325366 , Reply# 10   5/21/2015 at 06:34 (3,255 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Oh whoops. Best remove the Felix from the contemporary image icon as it isn't the best all-rounder apparently.

Never thought I would say this but I do agree with sptyks, I would take the felix over a dyson. The newer dyson are great, I have 2 but as an everyday all rounder, for something that is well made, great performance, versatile, quiet and really good value for money, you cant really beat the felix.

It isn't perfect. It topples over from the neck unlocking itself and the hose is short, but other than that, it is a great cleaner. Love mine.


Post# 325368 , Reply# 11   5/21/2015 at 07:12 (3,255 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
For someone that doesn't want to start arguments

Why did you plant the bomb about sounding like Kirby collectors? I think that's exactly what you were trying to do.

The OP said it was a best all rounder, people are entitled to their opinions and pride in their new machines. The felix looks like a fine machine.


Post# 325370 , Reply# 12   5/21/2015 at 07:59 (3,255 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I'm entitled to my own opinion too.and my opinion is it's a very very good vacuum but not the best and that's my opinion.

Post# 325374 , Reply# 13   5/21/2015 at 10:00 (3,255 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        
Out of 8 posts, I see two pertaining to the topic at hand,

Keep it nice, boys. I just removed some unnecessary posts. No need to start a fight in a thread of good intentions. I'm not saying you can't have opinions, but there's a nice way of expressing them and an unnecessary way of expressing them.





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Post# 325376 , Reply# 14   5/21/2015 at 10:15 (3,255 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Congrats on your new Felix!!

I have a Felix myself, it was a Christmas present from Robert a few years ago. I got the red one. I know that there are some pretty varied opinions on the Felix, I personally think it's a good machine, but I am disappointed with its build quaity. It's also a bit on the pricey side - but when compared to a Dyson, I feel it's probably comparable (for the price). The handle is wobbly, and it just feels cheaply made. I think it is an excellent cleaner, and I do use it often - but I wish that it had the build quality/fit and finish of a Miele. That's what I was expecting when I opened the box, and it was clear from that point on that it was not on par with Miele.

The machine also gave off a "new motor smell" for a really long time, which I didn't particularly care for, so I finally put an air freshener tablet in the bag, which helped. It does run really hot, too, which I have noticed. I do love how light weight it is, and how quiet it is. The power nozzle really does a good job grooming the carpets. I also like the bare floor tool that came with it - although I took the front brush strip out, and it seems to now draw the dirt in, instead of getting stuck to the bristles. The attachments are nothing spectacular, I don't store them on the cleaner - I didn't attach the little holder thingy.


Post# 325400 , Reply# 15   5/21/2015 at 13:21 (3,255 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Well the felix has been out for 10 years now and people are still buying them so they cant b that bad.

I actually find Miele's build quality to be lower than SEBO. SEBO's have a tough and durable feel about them. I found my S7 to have some quite cheap plastic used that would snap and break and they are incredibly complicated to do work on. Quite a few vacuum specialist don't stock or do repair work on Mieles anymore because of that and also parts for them are expensive.

You talk about the price as well. I think in so many ways, we have arguments because things tend not to be the same in either side of the pond. In the UK at least, the felix starts from £215, a comparable dyson starts at £300.

But again, opinions and everyone is entitled to them, but the brush the felix off as a bad vacuum is hard to comprehend.


Post# 325407 , Reply# 16   5/21/2015 at 14:55 (3,255 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
I enjoyed mine while I had it.

The brushroll was a little too aggressive for some of my older rugs and I had four dogs at the time, so I went through bags pretty quickly.

Post# 325408 , Reply# 17   5/21/2015 at 15:09 (3,255 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Love your Felix Blackheart, they are great vacuums. Hope you enjoy using it.

I've had my Felix Classic 8 years this August and it's been used a bit over the years and have had no issues with it love it. One of the best vacuums I've used/owned apart from my new purchase (Vorwerk Kobold VK150). I've yet to change both filters on it although the pre motor filter does want changing now. They do run hot but I don't tend to use mine on full power all the time only for tougher jobs. It's the vacuum cleaner that got me back into bagged vacuums. Glad it did!

The new 700 watt Felix vacuums in the UK/EU do not run hot like the original 1300 watts versions. I tried one in John Lewis dept store and was very impressed with the performance of the new 700 watt version. Same power if not slightly more power, well that how it felt.



Post# 325409 , Reply# 18   5/21/2015 at 15:44 (3,255 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Fred said: "I also like the bare floor tool that came with it - although I took the front brush strip out, and it seems to now draw the dirt in, instead of getting stuck to the bristles."

That sounds like a really good tip. Do you happen to have a picture of your floor brush modification? I have a similar problem with some of my bare floor brushes. May have to try something like that.


Post# 325410 , Reply# 19   5/21/2015 at 15:48 (3,255 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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@madaboutsebo - The motor on the Felix ECO has 24 blades versus 6 on the 1300 watt model !

@luxlife - I don't know about the states but in Europe you can buy a softer bristled brushroll for the felix for that exact reason. I has green bristles and is a good option for more delicate surfaces.


Post# 325411 , Reply# 20   5/21/2015 at 16:00 (3,255 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Thanks oliveoiltinfoil I forgot about that about the new Eco 700 watt motor. The SEBO demonstrator in John Lewis Southampton told me about the new motor when I test one out. Thanks again for that information on the new motor. You can tell the new motor has great airflow I was impressed.

Post# 325413 , Reply# 21   5/21/2015 at 16:16 (3,255 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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No problem my friend. According to the technical specs on both models, the airflow rate is exactly the same at 50 litres per second.

Post# 325415 , Reply# 22   5/21/2015 at 16:29 (3,255 days old) by Madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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Thanks 😊. That's interesting to know. Hence the more fan blades on the 700 watt motor to give the same performance for using less power and less heat generated too.

Post# 325423 , Reply# 23   5/21/2015 at 19:22 (3,255 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Hence the probable solution derived from the E1 series cylinder vacs. They're more about airflow noise than anything else IMHO. The K1 700 relies on the older motor and has a certain whine to it.

Lovely Felix though! Just one question though if I may, Blackheart - does this have the height adjustable pull flap at the front? I know some U.S models are different where a height adjustment on the handle isn't an option.

I agree with Oli regarding SEBO build. They are far more durable and better built than Miele. That's not to say I dislike Miele but its a constant expense with Miele versus SEBO on running costs.


Post# 325443 , Reply# 24   5/22/2015 at 03:19 (3,254 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Adjustable handle

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Yes it does, it's sooo much nicer having that for using it in it's "portable mode".

The last Felix i had was a used model which did not have the telescopic handle or the speed control. They were basic models used to test the market. All Current felixs now have both, except the windsor commercial versions.

Having both a Miele S7 and now a Felix i do prefer the Felix it's a lot lighter and more nimble than the Miele, plus it has a lot more airflow (6.5 vs 3.5) there are certain things i like better about the miele, like the longer cord, bottom mounted hose, headlight, and the ability to shut off the brush from the handle. Overall though i do prefer the felix.


Post# 325444 , Reply# 25   5/22/2015 at 04:55 (3,254 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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As someone who has also had both an S7 and Felix, which do you think has better performance?

I personally think the felix, not only because it does have noticeably more airflow, but I think it has better agitation. I found the S7 to bunny hop as I think its called over my plush pilled carpets, not digging in enough.

The felix is a more simple design, more simple airflow path, just better built and more simple.


Post# 325448 , Reply# 26   5/22/2015 at 07:03 (3,254 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Oh that's good to know. I know that some markets still get a basic Felix 1 type model which has a flxed handle and no brush roll on/off button. Also there's the Felix Kombi which as you might know is just a Felix with variable suction control and a suction floor head on it, hence no brush roll on/off option on the SEBO handle.

I know in the U.S you can buy a shoulder strap for it, though I shudder to think how inconvienent that would be given the weight of the body alone.

In the UK, the current Miele uprights (now known as "Dynamic U1") are listed on Miele's site as having a 10.5 metre cable - the Felix has a 9.5 metre cable. I thought the S7 originally had a lot more.

I owned an original S7210 when they first came out. Not for me. Clearly designed for the U.S market or bigger homes. But that's not to say that it isn't a bad upright. It is nicely designed in some ways and exudes the typical Germanic Miele plastics with only a few downsides. It was the main hose stitched in by two screws which got me every time. I had to undo them a couple of times when dog hair got stuffed up at the bottom release.

The brush roll can't be removed either which I found a bit disappointing. Clearly Miele don't want to upset SEBO in offering a similar catch and release type mechanism.

Where the Miele scored better was the near silence of its motor in my opinion. I find their cylinder vacs far more manageable; the S8340 I own has a 9 metre cord, so its only 0.5 metres off the Felix.



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