Thread Number: 28906
/ Tag: Brand New Vacuum Cleaners
The YouTube sensation ibaisaic |
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Post# 323096   4/23/2015 at 20:04 (3,261 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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I've watched a number of videos from a person from the UK who must be the best ambassador for vacuum cleaner collecting since Stan Kann. His YouTube name is ibaisaic, a mnenomic for the extinct Hoover slogan "It beats as it sweeps as it cleans." He takes the time to do detailed, 40-50-minute-long complete and detailed reviews of some very good vacuums, including Miele and Sebo. Does anyone know this gentleman personally, or does he participate in any of the collectors' sites or fora? I don't have the impression (and this is purely bias) that he would have any patience for some of the childishness that takes place online from time to time, but he's obviously very generous with his time and energy, which his video reviews demonstrate very clearly. Anyway, I just wonder if he has any presence on the collectors' sites. Check out his videos if you haven't heard of him; not only will you see expert vacuum reviews and demonstrations, but you'll also treat yourself to an hour of video in English with absolutely zero bad grammar (rare to nonexistent in the US)! :) |
Post# 323097 , Reply# 1   4/23/2015 at 20:08 (3,261 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 323100 , Reply# 2   4/23/2015 at 20:19 (3,261 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 323103 , Reply# 3   4/23/2015 at 20:57 (3,261 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Roger is a great guy....he really gives of his time to create very informative (and sometimes quite humourous) video clips demonstrating European vacs. For North Americans, these are must see videos to learn about the cleaners on the "other side of the pond." He also has the sweetest little doggies!
He deserves kudos from all of us here at Vacuumland!!!! :-) *applause* \o/! |
Post# 323157 , Reply# 5   4/24/2015 at 10:49 (3,261 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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Roger, you've earned every word of my positive feedback and more. I'm glad you're here. I know it must take hours of work, not to mention a lot of money in purchases, to make a quality-dense, high-yield 50-minute video. Having understood that, I hope you'll make more and more. They're incomparable and invaluable, to be succinct.
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Post# 323181 , Reply# 6   4/24/2015 at 16:59 (3,260 days old) by hooverjedilord (Hampshire)   |   | |
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Ah, my favourite Youtube personality, it's like Ashens mixed with Teleshopping :P |
Post# 323288 , Reply# 7   4/25/2015 at 16:11 (3,260 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 323292 , Reply# 8   4/25/2015 at 16:22 (3,259 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Wow.
I can't believe what I just read here. :-( You know, when it comes to the internet, I find that if you don't have something nice to say about someone you have never met in person, don't bother spending one second writing something critical or insulting. Just my opinion. Roger: please ignore those posts. I am old enough to know (56) what real vanity looks like, and I for one don't see one drop of it in any of your videos. If anything, I see touches of self-deprecation that are endearing. May you go from strength to strength, Mr. Sensotronic.... |
Post# 323305 , Reply# 10   4/25/2015 at 17:25 (3,259 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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I agree 100% with Fred and I've absolutely had it with this nonsense on Vacuumland. To that group of offenders who can't take a hint I have my banning wand ready to go. Just try me. If you cannot say something nice, then find another website to say it, we're over it and it stops now. So if you don't agree with me, then save us both some work and go away for good.
Thank you Patrick for creating a great thread and it now can continue to be great without the chatter of pre-pubescence nonesense. |
Post# 323308 , Reply# 11   4/25/2015 at 17:35 (3,259 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Well there... One member blocked, who's next? Robert was serious when he said to find another website. Vacuumland is about discussing vacuum cleaners, not chastising other members. |
Post# 323311 , Reply# 12   4/25/2015 at 17:53 (3,259 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 323312 , Reply# 13   4/25/2015 at 17:56 (3,259 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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Guys let me say I'm disgusted with the behaviour shown here tonight and even more disgusted that the member who was banned has posted about her joys of being removed from this site on a Facebook page.
I wont tolerate it on that page as you wont tolerate it here. I seriously hope Roger has not taken offence. What he's done for us collectors on youtube IS way above and beyond what most regular collectors do and the fact he shares it in a non egotistical way just shows what a top guy he is. |
Post# 323314 , Reply# 14   4/25/2015 at 17:58 (3,259 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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It is not a question of disagreeing but a question of how your present that disagreement in different wording. If intended to antagonise, then it is not appreciated. Simple as, Alex. Had you actually stated "I disagree," then it may well have presented an opinion that would have been granted and appeared valid.
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Post# 323315 , Reply# 15   4/25/2015 at 17:59 (3,259 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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It's not about disagreeing, it's about being rude to other members. If you can't be nice than you cannot be on this website. We have absolutely had it. There is the the old saying "if you can't say something nice, then don't say it all".<<---That's the new policy. There are a ton of nice, polite members on this site who are never rude to others. Then there is the small minority who can't help themselves and have no respect for others. Those are the members I'm going to target now and will be banned. Yes we all have opinions, but sometimes it's best to think it and not say it, that's the way I was raised as were most of us here.
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Post# 323316 , Reply# 16   4/25/2015 at 18:01 (3,259 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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I missed EVERYTHING! Perhaps that's good. We should ALL appreciate what each brings "to the table". I'm all Hoover, as you know. However, I'd NEVER bash anyone who collects other species. I look, listen, appreciate. But, then again, I've been a target as well. Not the point. Except for here, where would most of us ever see or learn about so many of these products? Respect is crucial. You leave for a few hours and you miss a lot, it seems.
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Post# 323317 , Reply# 17   4/25/2015 at 18:02 (3,259 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 323318 , Reply# 18   4/25/2015 at 18:03 (3,259 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 323334 , Reply# 19   4/25/2015 at 20:57 (3,259 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Thank you Fred and Robert....and thank you to Robert in Derbyshire for articulating so well our appreciation for Roger and his hard work.
I'll sleep a little better tonight with the positive respectful energy I read now here at Vacuumland....:-) We can criticize and analyze and say nasty things about inanimate machines all we want, but let this messageboard be a place of respect and dignity for all people coming here. Accusing someone of being vain is not nice, period. Peace and love and "hoovering hugs" to all.... |
Post# 323336 , Reply# 20   4/25/2015 at 21:44 (3,259 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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I've spent twelve hours at work today taking care of patient while I'm trying to recover from a broken femur myself. The pain I'm in is beyond anything I've ever endured in my life. I'm taking some time to post additionally to this thread because something is amiss. I replied, briefly and earlier, to a post that characterized Roger as "vain." Those posts have disappeared, and my reply to those now sits a bit nonsensically, since its predicator is gone. Anyway, this thread was not intended to start a controversy. Ibaisaic is a person I don't know, haven't met in person, but appreciate and respect without having made his personal acquaintance, which I hope to make someday. I stand by my original post, which was written innocently, and also by my later reply to the effect that Roger's expertise does not make him vain or condescending. He speaks with a knowledgable voice. Any deference he receives is well deserved, including my own. I do not moderate this forum and have zero authority over other contributors. However, having said that, I started this thread to compliment someone, not to criticize him. Anyone's perception that he is anything other than a competent vacuum evaluator who puts forth incomparable effort for no profit is undermining the purpose of my writing.
To be blunt, this is why so many vacuum fora have failed in the past. Non-stop criticizing, any excuse to belittle someone, even if that person has gone to tremendous lengths to benefit the community. I'm frustrated. The moderators have my invitation to close this thread, as my compliments have been paid, and I don't want more discord with my name attached to it. I'm now embarrassed before Roger, which is not what I intended when I wrote the original post, and I now have to apologize to Roger, somehow, for the unruliness that has happened here. |
Post# 323344 , Reply# 21   4/25/2015 at 23:56 (3,259 days old) by spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Sleepdoc, please don't feel guilty or awkward for starting this thread. It was quite clearly done with the best of intentions, something those who commented negatively knew full well, but decided to ignore simply because they had an axe to grind. That does not reflect badly on you.
I don't know Roger personally but am a big fan of his videos. They're well shot and edited, informative, and sometimes completely off the wall (in a good way). Let's face it, vacuum collecting IS considered to be an unusual hobby by most, but evidently he knows that and embraces it fully. I've never detected any undertones of bragging or self-aggrandisement, just someone who enjoys what they do and wants to share that with others. It's all done in good spirit, and does not warrant any negativity. |
Post# 323347 , Reply# 23   4/26/2015 at 04:13 (3,259 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Wow, well, this thread went places it shouldn't.
Roger, IMO, I think your videos are great! You've reached both an audience of collectors and general consumers which isn't an easy thing to do. And whether one is a fan of the content of your videos or not, everyone should appreciate the time and effort that you put into them. You're never going to please everyone, but your fans far outnumber the negativitity. Bravo and keep it up :). |
Post# 323348 , Reply# 24   4/26/2015 at 04:15 (3,259 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)   |   | |
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Post# 323349 , Reply# 25   4/26/2015 at 04:47 (3,259 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I don't hate you I never will hate you, I don't even dislike you, what I was saying I didn't like was the image you were potraying of late on your youtube videos which I said I thought was a bit big headed. I had felt lile that long before we had any personal issues on Facebook.
I don't have a problem with you. I just want ypu to kbow that in anything I said here last night I was never rude or directly blunt. |
Post# 323350 , Reply# 26   4/26/2015 at 05:05 (3,259 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 323351 , Reply# 27   4/26/2015 at 05:17 (3,259 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Im sorry if I have to re-open this hornets nest again. Im not sorry that I didn't stay around online to witness whatever occurred in this post regarding the abuse and necessity to block one UK member. But I am sorry for the member who was falsely accused here.
It was Roger who inspired me to do video product reviews. I much prefer worded reviews though; I feel far more comfortable doing that. Roger is far from Vain. However, now that Roger has had a chance to offer his side of what should be a personal business between him and another UK member on this site clearly outlines how things can escalate when the more basic, primary connection is that of sharing the love of vacuums. Yes things can get out of hand; a social site outside of this network forum should have little to do with one another. But when adding a single word that was obviously designed to antagonise, it went in the way it was supposed to be directed as per its meaning. Vain doesn't just mean big headed. It means something that doesn't offer any worth. Clearly that is totally out of the question when watching any of Roger's videos. His videos are clear cut and cleanly explained, quite literally. The next time a post pops up on this site, think carefully of words you might want to offer up, Alex. Check out their meaning beforehand before offering it up, though! |
Post# 323362 , Reply# 31   4/26/2015 at 09:30 (3,259 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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I just want ypu to kbow that in anything I said here last night I was never rude or directly blunt. <<<---- What absolute nonsense!
ALEX, you had absolutely no right to say what you said about someone being vain on Vacuumland, it was rude and unnecessary and clearly untrue. Why is this rocket science to you when it's so clearly obvious to the rest of us? I told you to quit while you were ahead and you chose not to, you are now on a 30 day suspension. |
Post# 323420 , Reply# 32   4/26/2015 at 21:08 (3,258 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)   |   | |
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...I simply don't understand how anyone could infer something negative about Roger's character or manners from his videos. These videos are the best reviews I've ever seen. His finished products are 40-50 minutes. I've never done anything like this, but I assume that a finished, edited 45-minute video involves at least a few hours of work in arranging, filming, editing, and uploading. Additionally, he has to buy all these vacuums to test. Mieles, Dysons, and Sebos are expensive. Further still, he does research on other models, so when he reviews a machine, he also knows details about other models in a company's lineup in order to describe a variation of the model he is reviewing that could be a better fit for someone with particular needs. I truly have zero criticism of Roger and his work, although part of me wishes I hadn't started this thread.
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Post# 323423 , Reply# 33   4/26/2015 at 22:43 (3,258 days old) by Hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place)   |   | |
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Post# 323458 , Reply# 35   4/27/2015 at 15:00 (3,258 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 323468 , Reply# 36   4/27/2015 at 15:32 (3,258 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 323473 , Reply# 37   4/27/2015 at 16:28 (3,257 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 323687 , Reply# 39   4/30/2015 at 09:56 (3,255 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 324477 , Reply# 41   5/9/2015 at 16:00 (3,246 days old) by hockeydude22 (ontario)   |   | |
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Honestly you gave some a 30 day suspension. |
Post# 324583 , Reply# 42   5/10/2015 at 14:56 (3,245 days old) by fantomfan (Rochester, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 324584 , Reply# 43   5/10/2015 at 15:24 (3,245 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA)   |   | |
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Post# 324585 , Reply# 44   5/10/2015 at 16:00 (3,245 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)   |   | |
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The Remington Vic Vac is from 1986. |